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Cam Ward finishes a distant 4th in the Heisman

The correct order should’ve been

Hunter - 1a
Jeanty - 1b
Ward - 3
Gabriel - 4

Gabriel’s # kinda fell off, & he had the luxury of playing w/ a stacked team. Ward literally willed us to 10 victories this yr. Jeanty put up video game numbers against all competition, including the #1 team in the nation. Hunter was arguably a top 5 WR & DB, something we’ve never seen before.

The Heisman was between Hunter & Jeanty, but Ward’s voting is a farce.
 
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Cribby said:
Didn’t watch , haven’t watched in over a decade. Garbage , political trophy that nobody can explain the format of choosing the winner. Happy for Cam and UM but it’s still a bs trophy. The media decided this thing weeks ago.
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A week ago? Try a month ago.
 
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Don’t mean to threadjack, but I waived the white flag on college awards years ago when the two greatest safeties ever(Reed &Taylor) were shafted for the Jim Thorpe award, which in and of itself is basically an award given to Oklahoma players. I remember Blades shared the award with Ricky Dixon in 87 although I thought Blades was the better safety.
 
Flynell7 said:
I thought they hated Deion
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If you keep listening to Deion, you'd believe that was the case. He's gotta create an us against the world narrative for the locker room. They love Deion. He generates headlines. Single-handedly saving jobs.
 
QuattroCane said:
Fair enough, but I still think if you put Cam on 20 different teams, he finishes top two at worst. IMO, he was held to a different standard after the GT loss.
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I see what you are saying but I don’t think he was held to a different standard. Barring a QB having a season better than Joe Burrows Heisman year, I don’t think anyone was beating Hunter. It’s too much of a novelty. The rest were all interchangeable depending on what criteria you personally want to use. I think Jeanty massively benefited from playing mostly against G5. Don’t think he gets his numbers if playing P4 competition every week. Ward put up better numbers but Gabriel was the best player on the best team. Ward was #1 in QBR, Gabriel was #2. But Gabriel also had a signature win over title favorite Ohio State. Wards signature win was UF in the opener.

If a voter is taking into consideration the schedule and signature wins more than pure stats, I’m not going to say it’s a travesty. I don’t agree with it but it’s not unreasonable. If the criteria is “who was more valuable in terms of W/L to his team” then I think it is between Jeanty and Ward. But that opens up a whole different conversation as lots of players were the difference between being 9-10 win team or a 5-6 win team.

At the end of the day people are upset that Ward was 4th instead of 3rd. It’s kinda silly, especially when some are proposing it was all some conspiracy to embarrass Miami. That’s just ridiculous.

People only remember Heisman winners and then sometimes who else was a Heisman candidate in a given year- no one pays attention to whether a player was the #2,3, or 4 vote winner. Ward got invited to the Heisman ceremony and he’ll be the #1 or #2 pick. It is odd that UM fans aren’t celebrating this instead of complaining that he deserved 3rd place instead of 4th.
 
Squid Bumciorek said:
I see what you are saying but I don’t think he was held to a different standard. Barring a QB having a season better than Joe Burrows Heisman year, I don’t think anyone was beating Hunter. It’s too much of a novelty. The rest were all interchangeable depending on what criteria you personally want to use. I think Jeanty massively benefited from playing mostly against G5. Don’t think he gets his numbers if playing P4 competition every week. Ward put up better numbers but Gabriel was the best player on the best team. Ward was #1 in QBR, Gabriel was #2. But Gabriel also had a signature win over title favorite Ohio State. Wards signature win was UF in the opener.

If a voter is taking into consideration the schedule and signature wins more than pure stats, I’m not going to say it’s a travesty. I don’t agree with it but it’s not unreasonable. If the criteria is “who was more valuable in terms of W/L to his team” then I think it is between Jeanty and Ward. But that opens up a whole different conversation as lots of players were the difference between being 9-10 win team or a 5-6 win team.

At the end of the day people are upset that Ward was 4th instead of 3rd. It’s kinda silly, especially when some are proposing it was all some conspiracy to embarrass Miami. That’s just ridiculous.

People only remember Heisman winners and then sometimes who else was a Heisman candidate in a given year- no one pays attention to whether a player was the #2,3, or 4 vote winner. Ward got invited to the Heisman ceremony and he’ll be the #1 or #2 pick. It is odd that UM fans aren’t celebrating this instead of complaining that he deserved 3rd place instead of 4th.
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Not beat a dead horse, but I really think you’re over simplifying it. The fact of the matter is no one played better QB than him all season. No one made the throws he made and some of the plays he made and I’m sorry, but I refuse to believe if he didn’t play for a different school, he would not have gotten the scrutiny that he did at the end of the season. I also think it’s very generous of Miami fans not to be up in arms that he didn’t win much less coming in third I’m sorry, but I’m tired of Miami being held to a standard virtually no one else is held to in college football and no, I’m not being overly dramatic about it.
 
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After watching all the candidates play in their bowl games, Cam Ward is by far the best player and should have won it. Fourth is a complete joke.
 
Cuddlefish said:
After watching all the candidates play in their bowl games, Cam Ward is by far the best player and should have won it. Fourth is a complete joke.
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I said it when it happened and it’s still holds true I believe. Cam ward fumbling the ball on what could have been a gaming winning drive against GT sealed his heismen fate.

If he takes us down the field and scores there, it’s not only a big feather in his cap but we would have made the playoff and acc champ game, which would have helped his odds tremendously
 
404Usernamenotfound said:
I said it when it happened and it’s still holds true I believe. Cam ward fumbling the ball on what could have been a gaming winning drive against GT sealed his heismen fate.

If he takes us down the field and scores there, it’s not only a big feather in his cap but we would have made the playoff and acc champ game, which would have helped his odds tremendously
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12-1 or 13-0 was his only chance to win it imo. He never should have been 4th but ACC failed him.
 
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