Buzz grows around S. Morris; Canes chatter;

If only Morris got that redshirt we'd have him for one more year possibly. Also can't wait to see Coley he's too talented to keep him off the field you got to get your best playmakers on the field. Hopefully he's studying that playbook hard.
 
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Our offense is simply loaded. Like 2000/2001/2002 loaded.

Depth at QB and RB are probably the only issues.


Dial it back a little hoss. We've got more talent than we've had in a while, but in those years there was elite talent pretty much accross the board.

One thing is for sure: can someone name another University of Miami offensive line comprised of this kind of top NFL talent and overall depth?

Tackles: Flowers, Seantrel Henderson, Bunche (swing tackle), Gadbois
Guards: Linder, Feliciano, Wheeler (senior swing Guard), Isidora
Centers: Mcdermott, Wheeler (?)

How many times was Dorsey sacked in 2001?

How many hair follicles made up Sherko's beard? Its QB being sacked is not the only measurement of a talented and deep OL. Are you saying that 2001 line had more NFL talent and overall depth than the current one? I really don't know what you're getting at, so I'm asking.

Wasn't really getting at anything. Just seeing how many jimmies would get rustled. The answer is two.

But the '01 team did have the Outland trophy winner (and probably best O-lineman ever at UM) and the Remington award winner the following year. This o-line has won ****.
 
If only Morris got that redshirt we'd have him for one more year possibly. Also can't wait to see Coley he's too talented to keep him off the field you got to get your best playmakers on the field. Hopefully he's studying that playbook hard.

NO HE WOULD NFL BOUND EITHER WAY
 
Dial it back a little hoss. We've got more talent than we've had in a while, but in those years there was elite talent pretty much accross the board.

One thing is for sure: can someone name another University of Miami offensive line comprised of this kind of top NFL talent and overall depth?

Tackles: Flowers, Seantrel Henderson, Bunche (swing tackle), Gadbois
Guards: Linder, Feliciano, Wheeler (senior swing Guard), Isidora
Centers: Mcdermott, Wheeler (?)

How many times was Dorsey sacked in 2001?

How many hair follicles made up Sherko's beard? Its QB being sacked is not the only measurement of a talented and deep OL. Are you saying that 2001 line had more NFL talent and overall depth than the current one? I really don't know what you're getting at, so I'm asking.

Wasn't really getting at anything. Just seeing how many jimmies would get rustled. The answer is two.

But the '01 team did have the Outland trophy winner (and probably best O-lineman ever at UM) and the Remington award winner the following year. This o-line has won ****.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but Ereck Flowers has as high of a ceiling as anyone who's played OL here over the last 20 years - including Searcy and Mckinnie. Mckinnie probably had the most natural talent. He'd lapse in and out of dominance between run blocking and pass blocking. In the pros, he's just not focused. Searcy was strong as ****, focused and an excellent run blocker.

I'm projecting Ereck Flowers could develop into a combination of both of them. I think he has a chance to be a top 8 pick by the time he leaves. He'll be hurt, perception-wise, by the fact he'll give up a few more sacks than Mckinnie (who played with one of the best Cane QBs ever at making quick decisions) and possibly by the fact we won't run the ball as much as we should.
 
Everyone is talking about or WR group being the one of the best in the country this year. I definitely think the talent is there, top 15 but the players need to prove it consistently (which I believe they will). Everyone always wants to look into the future, but next year is definitely a stronger group for our WR core. Top 3 in the country on paper without a doubt in my mind. Regardless of who we pick up this recruiting class.

Dorsett (Sr.)
Scott (Sr.)
Coley (Soph.)
Lewis (Soph.)
Waters (Jr.)
Griffin (Freshman)
Carter (Soph)

WR & OL are far & away are greatest strengths for 2013. TE production should be solid & Morris will make those guys into better players. Alex Collins is a dumbass for going elsewhere. He could've completed the best offense in the ACC right alone with Clemson.
 
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Excellent point TwoZero. I actually plan on having a running total like above for this year to see how he is measuring up to last year's success. I will take into account the drives that still ended up in a touchdown. I might even go back and update the stats above to reflect that as well.
nice stats there, stat

onlookers be advised, though: don't look at the 17 missed TD's and assume Morris could have thrown for 38. i'm sure some of those missed TD throws resulted in passing TD drives, so some numbers might be duplicated that way. regardless, it certainly shows that Morris missed a fair amount of opportunities last year and, if fixed, has the potential to have a much more efficient season.
 
From ESPN's ACC Blurg:

"Is Miami's Stephen Morris top QB prospect from the ACC?


Miami quarterback Stephen Morris has been under the radar from a national perspective, but the more folks watch him, the more that will change.

It already has started to change, in fact.

Two noted NFL draft analysts in recent weeks have heaped high praise on Morris, declaring him one of the best quarterbacks in college football. Steve Muench from ESPN Scouts Inc. gives Morris the nod ahead of Tajh Boyd as the top quarterback prospect in the ACC at this early evaluation point. Muench says, "Morris gets the same accuracy grade as Boyd, but it's his frame and eyes that give Morris the edge. He is better able to see the field and does a better job of looking off safeties and finding his checkdowns when his first option isn't there."

More recently, NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks said Morris "might be the most talented quarterback in college football" after watching him at the Manning Passing Academy. Brooks says, "I believe he could rate as one of the top pure passers in college football. He is an outstanding rhythm passer who displays terrific anticipation, awareness and timing in the pocket. Although he only has one year of starting experience at Miami, Morris' remarkable physical tools and superb game-management skills could garner him high rankings on quarterback lists around the NFL."

Interestingly enough, noted NFL analyst Mel Kiper Jr. does not have Morris listed among his early top quarterback prospects headed into the 2014 draft. But I think that will change once Kiper digs deeper into his evaluations and has another full year to watch Morris play.

Simply put, Morris isn't going to remain an unknown for much longer."

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/57765/is-morris-top-qb-prospect-from-the-acc
 
Thank God that Coach Drip finally talked Shanntard into taking this guy. Shanntard wanted nothing to do with him, but Drip talked him into it.
 
One thing is for sure: can someone name another University of Miami offensive line comprised of this kind of top NFL talent and overall depth?

Tackles: Flowers, Seantrel Henderson, Bunche (swing tackle), Gadbois
Guards: Linder, Feliciano, Wheeler (senior swing Guard), Isidora
Centers: Mcdermott, Wheeler (?)

How many times was Dorsey sacked in 2001?

How many hair follicles made up Sherko's beard? Its QB being sacked is not the only measurement of a talented and deep OL. Are you saying that 2001 line had more NFL talent and overall depth than the current one? I really don't know what you're getting at, so I'm asking.

Wasn't really getting at anything. Just seeing how many jimmies would get rustled. The answer is two.

But the '01 team did have the Outland trophy winner (and probably best O-lineman ever at UM) and the Remington award winner the following year. This o-line has won ****.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but Ereck Flowers has as high of a ceiling as anyone who's played OL here over the last 20 years - including Searcy and Mckinnie. Mckinnie probably had the most natural talent. He'd lapse in and out of dominance between run blocking and pass blocking. In the pros, he's just not focused. Searcy was strong as ****, focused and an excellent run blocker.

I'm projecting Ereck Flowers could develop into a combination of both of them. I think he has a chance to be a top 8 pick by the time he leaves. He'll be hurt, perception-wise, by the fact he'll give up a few more sacks than Mckinnie (who played with one of the best Cane QBs ever at making quick decisions) and possibly by the fact we won't run the ball as much as we should.

Why do you say that? I know Jimbob called the plays at FSU but the last few years they have definitely leaned heavily on a running game. To me, with the larger backs we've been recruiting as well as getting a large athletic QB in Kaaya, it seems like we're going to also place a heavy emphasis on running.
 
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Everyone is talking about or WR group being the one of the best in the country this year. I definitely think the talent is there, top 15 but the players need to prove it consistently (which I believe they will). Everyone always wants to look into the future, but next year is definitely a stronger group for our WR core. Top 3 in the country on paper without a doubt in my mind. Regardless of who we pick up this recruiting class.

Dorsett (Sr.)
Scott (Sr.)
Coley (Soph.)
Lewis (Soph.)
Waters (Jr.)
Griffin (Freshman)
Carter (Soph)

WR & OL are far & away are greatest strengths for 2013. TE production should be solid & Morris will make those guys into better players. Alex Collins is a dumbass for going elsewhere. He could've completed the best offense in the ACC right alone with Clemson.

THIS. Our WRs did not have a problem getting open against anyone that I recall, but the combination of drops and Morris' missing the open throw last year hindered our ability to drive in some games and parts of others. ND really comes to mind. There secondary couldn't stay with our WRs to save their lives but we had drop after drop after drop as well as Morris missing James out of the backfield a few times, leaving our running game as the only way to move the ball. It made ND look great since they really only had to worry about the run.
 
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How many times was Dorsey sacked in 2001?

How many hair follicles made up Sherko's beard? Its QB being sacked is not the only measurement of a talented and deep OL. Are you saying that 2001 line had more NFL talent and overall depth than the current one? I really don't know what you're getting at, so I'm asking.

Wasn't really getting at anything. Just seeing how many jimmies would get rustled. The answer is two.

But the '01 team did have the Outland trophy winner (and probably best O-lineman ever at UM) and the Remington award winner the following year. This o-line has won ****.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but Ereck Flowers has as high of a ceiling as anyone who's played OL here over the last 20 years - including Searcy and Mckinnie. Mckinnie probably had the most natural talent. He'd lapse in and out of dominance between run blocking and pass blocking. In the pros, he's just not focused. Searcy was strong as ****, focused and an excellent run blocker.

I'm projecting Ereck Flowers could develop into a combination of both of them. I think he has a chance to be a top 8 pick by the time he leaves. He'll be hurt, perception-wise, by the fact he'll give up a few more sacks than Mckinnie (who played with one of the best Cane QBs ever at making quick decisions) and possibly by the fact we won't run the ball as much as we should.

Why do you say that? I know Jimbob called the plays at FSU but the last few years they have definitely leaned heavily on a running game. To me, with the larger backs we've been recruiting as well as getting a large athletic QB in Kaaya, it seems like we're going to also place a heavy emphasis on running.

I just don't know what to expect of his play calling, we're coming off a ridiculous 370 or so rush attempts from Fisch's progressive "edge" style, and we have 1 RB who has the perception of being "too small."
 
I see where you're coming from. I personally think we're going to see commitment to the running game and Flowers has at least two more years here I believe.
 
I think we may run the ball even less than last year, to be honest. Maybe next year, which could be Flowers' last here, that will change but I am going to need to see a RB, any RB come close to Mike James' production before I can get excited about our running game. I like a couple of our young backs but right now it's pretty much Duke, and we will still need him in the return game and the passing game.
 
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Everyone is talking about or WR group being the one of the best in the country this year. I definitely think the talent is there, top 15 but the players need to prove it consistently (which I believe they will). Everyone always wants to look into the future, but next year is definitely a stronger group for our WR core. Top 3 in the country on paper without a doubt in my mind. Regardless of who we pick up this recruiting class.

Dorsett (Sr.)
Scott (Sr.)
Coley (Soph.)
Lewis (Soph.)
Waters (Jr.)
Griffin (Freshman)
Carter (Soph)

WR & OL are far & away are greatest strengths for 2013. TE production should be solid & Morris will make those guys into better players. Alex Collins is a dumbass for going elsewhere. He could've completed the best offense in the ACC right alone with Clemson.


Won't matter we will still have the best offense in the ACC next season and be second only to Clemson this year.. Next season offense will have

RB JR Duke Johnson, FR 5 Star RB Yearby assuming we miss on Cook but i got a good feeling he will flip during the season. Even if he doesn't we will be fine

WR SR Dorsett will be ALL ACC this season, SR Scott, JR Waters, Soph Coley, RS Soph Malcolm Lewis, Freshman 5 star TE/WR Griffin

OL 3/4 returning starters with each starter having over 2 seasons of starting experience LT JR Erick Flowers (will be an all american) LG RS SR Feliciano, RS SR C McDermott, RS SR RT Malcolm Bunche. Then you include Isadora, Odogwu, and 5 star RT KC McDermott.. OL depth is the best in the ACC and top 5 in the nation.

TE RS SR Clive Walford will be a 3rd-4th round pick and should be the best in the ACC next year. SR Beau Sandland should be a monster next year with a year in the system. RS Fr Dobard should see the field as well. With 5 star Derrick Griffin playing flex TE like Jimmy Graham did here.

Doesn't matter if it's Olsen, Williams, or Kaaya at QB we will have more than enough weapons to be a top 10 team next season. But i think Olsen will be the man..
 
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Thank God that Coach Drip finally talked Shanntard into taking this guy. Shanntard wanted nothing to do with him, but Drip talked him into it.


Shannon did like Morris. Whipple was the main guy in Morris recruitment but that was Whipple's job to find QBs. Whipple liked Joe Brennan and AJ Derby more than Morris so he was the third option after we whiffed on both. Derby transferred to a juco then landed somewhere last season and I don't know if Brennan is still at Wisky or not.. I think it worked out well for us..
 
As of now, I'm afraid Goldens has dropped the ball in recruiting RBs. We really need someone to step up and grab that RB2 spot by the horns and hump it into submission.
 
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Thank God that Coach Drip finally talked Shanntard into taking this guy. Shanntard wanted nothing to do with him, but Drip talked him into it.


Shannon did like Morris. Whipple was the main guy in Morris recruitment but that was Whipple's job to find QBs. Whipple liked Joe Brennan and AJ Derby more than Morris so he was the third option after we whiffed on both. Derby transferred to a juco then landed somewhere last season and I don't know if Brennan is still at Wisky or not.. I think it worked out well for us..

This is pretty accurate as I recall. There were other guys who Whip wanted ahead of Morris too. He basically fell into our lap.
 
Thank God that Coach Drip finally talked Shanntard into taking this guy. Shanntard wanted nothing to do with him, but Drip talked him into it.


Shannon did like Morris. Whipple was the main guy in Morris recruitment but that was Whipple's job to find QBs. Whipple liked Joe Brennan and AJ Derby more than Morris so he was the third option after we whiffed on both. Derby transferred to a juco then landed somewhere last season and I don't know if Brennan is still at Wisky or not.. I think it worked out well for us..

I heard Shanntard didn't want El Girafe' Morris from very reliable people. We'll disagree on that topic, jandman.
 
Our offense is simply loaded. Like 2000/2001/2002 loaded.

Depth at QB and RB are probably the only issues.

OL and WR are loaded and as has been noted earlier OL could be best ever. HOWEVER QB and RB have no experienced, quality depth (I am being generous) and we are one hit away to Duke of Morris from disaster. TE is a question as well- there is talent at TE but not Winslow/Shockey talent yet.

2000-2002 teams were loaded two deap. We are close on offense but not there yet. This is plenty good as long as Duke or Morris do not get hurt.

Every team in America is one hit on the QB away from a disaster of a season. If Dorsey went down back on the day Miami had nobody behind worth a **** and very little depth. At least if Morris goes down we have a RS Junior on the roster ready to step in at 6'6" 235lbs who's been in the system for three years.

Duke, Hagens, Crawford, Clements, Dillard, and Gus will do just fine this season. Duke is an every down back despite what everyone thinks. Hagens is running hard right now. Crawford makes a defense have to respect the option to throw. Clements has always hit the hole hard and quick. Dillard should be ready to pound the rock. Gus was a stud so he should get some garbage time at the very least.

Our fans really need to stop writing off underclassmen.
 
Our offense is simply loaded. Like 2000/2001/2002 loaded.

Depth at QB and RB are probably the only issues.

OL and WR are loaded and as has been noted earlier OL could be best ever. HOWEVER QB and RB have no experienced, quality depth (I am being generous) and we are one hit away to Duke of Morris from disaster. TE is a question as well- there is talent at TE but not Winslow/Shockey talent yet.

2000-2002 teams were loaded two deap. We are close on offense but not there yet. This is plenty good as long as Duke or Morris do not get hurt.

Every team in America is one hit on the QB away from a disaster of a season. If Dorsey went down back on the day Miami had nobody behind worth a **** and very little depth. At least if Morris goes down we have a RS Junior on the roster ready to step in at 6'6" 235lbs who's been in the system for three years.

Duke, Hagens, Crawford, Clements, Dillard, and Gus will do just fine this season. Duke is an every down back despite what everyone thinks. Hagens is running hard right now. Crawford makes a defense have to respect the option to throw. Clements has always hit the hole hard and quick. Dillard should be ready to pound the rock. Gus was a stud so he should get some garbage time at the very least.

Our fans really need to stop writing off underclassmen.

I think what scares people is the unknown commodities behind Duke. We simply haven't seen any of them have success on this level running the football. The othe guys you mentioned should do fine, but there's nobody that jumps out at you. It doesn't feel like Portis, McGaee, Najeh, and Gore. Not saying we can't win with these guys, but if Alex Collins were a cane I think people would feel a little better about the RB situation.
 
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