Buzz grows around S. Morris; Canes chatter;

[Canesfan1899]

Over/Under 3.5 players knocked out of the game completely because of Perryman this year?

No doubt, I just hope one isn't him. I don't want to sound like a downer but a kid that ridiculously muscular can be injury prone in football if the training isn't on point. Its a fine line.

But yeah, he's going to be on a few highlight reels I'm sure

The scary part is Kirby is around that weight now as well and that kid can hit as well. If the DL can be even average our defense could be light years better.

 

[canecountry3]

It's happening...

 

[407cane]

People should be excited about the weight these kids have put on (no homo). Even if some of the players haven't developed in a football manner, being more physical and at the line of scrimmage will still do wonders for our team. I think our run D will be very respectable next year. Pass D is up in the Ai based off coverages, but the extra strength by chick and porter getting to the qb will easier for them

 

[JHallCanes]

Over/Under 3.5 players knocked out of the game completely because of Perryman this year?

No doubt, I just hope one isn't him. I don't want to sound like a downer but a kid that ridiculously muscular can be injury prone in football if the training isn't on point. Its a fine line.

But yeah, he's going to be on a few highlight reels I'm sure

The scary part is Kirby is around that weight now as well and that kid can hit as well. If the DL can be even average our defense could be light years better.

I haven't seen Kirby much but it isn't the actual weight I'm talking about. Its the amount of muscle. Kid is built like a bodybuilder. Not saying its bad or wrong, but IMO guys built like that are more prone to injuries playing football. But at the same time, injuries can happen to anyone anytime.

 

[tjl1388]

Perryman on the juice.

Brotha needs to share....with the entire defense. Don't be greedy.

 

[[]_[]Fan2010]

NFL analyst: Stephen Morris may be college football’s most talented QB

By Zac Ellis



Early NFL mock drafts for 2014 feature plenty of the expected college quarterbacks, from Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater to Clemson’s Tajh Boyd to Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel. But one name might be higher than we might think, in terms of talent: Miami’s Stephen Morris.

NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks attended the Manning Passing Academy over the weekend and offered his thoughts on the crop of collegiate passers. Even among some of the country’s most high-profile quarterbacks, the Hurricanes’ second-year starter displayed enough natural talent to stand out in Brooks’ mind.

Stephen Morris might be the most talented quarterback in college football. I say that even while fully aware of the gifted passers across the college football landscape. The Miami signal-caller’s natural talents made him stand out above the rest of his peers at the throwing exhibition at the Manning Passing Academy. Morris spins the ball with exceptional velocity and zip while showing a deft touch on intermediate and deep passes. Most impressively, he is deadly accurate, capable of making pinpoint throws to every area of the field. This was evident not only when Morris won the air-it-out competition by hitting a variety of moving targets, but also when he connected with receivers on a number of intermediate throws, particularly on deep comebacks and digs.

After cross-referencing the notes from my evaluation of Morris’ game tape with my observations of his performance at the Manning Passing Academy, I believe he could rate as one of the top pure passers in college football. He is an outstanding rhythm passer who displays terrific anticipation, awareness and timing in the pocket. Although he only has one year of starting experience at Miami, Morris’ remarkable physical tools and superb game-management skills could garner him high rankings on quarterback lists around the NFL.

Morris might not be a household name, but he was hardly a slouch in his first season as a starter in Coral Gables. He threw for 3,345 yards and 21 touchdowns against only seven interceptions in 2012, and the Hurricanes enjoyed the third most potent passing attack (295.4 yards per game) in the ACC.

What likely impressed most about Morris was his improvement as the 2012 season progressed. In Miami’s final four games, Morris completed 60 percent of his passes and didn’t throw an interception while tossing for 11 touchdowns. The ‘Canes themselves went 3-1 in those games, and Morris and the offense helped carry the team in spite of an awful defense.

But why don’t we hear Morris’ name mentioned among the country’s top quarterbacks? Miami’s relative mediocrity as a program in 2012 probably played a part; though the Hurricanes tied for first place in the ACC’s Coastal Division at 7-5 (5-3), postseason ineligibility kept the team out of the conference title game. The porous defense — which allowed 486.4 yards per game, good for 116th in the country — turned potentially winnable games against Florida State and Virginia into losses, and you didn’t hear much fanfare surrounding this five-loss ACC squad.

But Morris himself still found ways to impress with his individual statistics. It’s worth comparing Morris’ 2012 season to that of three of the more prolific passers in the nation heading into the fall:

Stephen Morris: 245-of-421 (58.2), 3,345, 7.9/catch, long pass: 87, 21 TDs-7 INT, 138.1 rating
Teddy Bridgewater: 287-of-419 (68.5), 3,718, 8.87/ catch, long pass: 75, 27 TDs-8 INTs, 160.5 rating
Tajh Boyd: 287-of-427, 3,896 (67.2), 9.12/catch, long pass:69, 36 TDS-13 INTs, 165.6 rating
Johnny Manziel: 295-of-434, 3,706 (68.0), 8.54/catch, long pass: 89 26 TDs-9 TDs, 155.3 rating

One factor that sticks out is Morris’ accuracy. With a 58.2 percent completion rating, the quarterback ranked a paltry 81st among last year’s signal-callers. His quarterback rating of 138.1 was likewise mediocre, falling just outside the top 50 at No. 51. Morris hardly jumps out with such numbers, yet he managed to keep his interceptions rather low (seven) despite throwing more passes than Bridgewater and just short of the number of attempts by Boyd and Manziel. What that means is Morris limits turnovers even though he’s not among the top-tier quarterbacks in efficiency, which is exactly what Brooks alludes to when he describes Morris and his “superb game-management skills.” Such a moniker bodes well for a career in the NFL.

Pro scouts love quarterbacks who are poised and controlled in the pocket, and there are plenty of reasons to assume that Morris’ accuracy and production will rise in the fall. Miami returns all five of its offensive line starters, while the team’s top two receivers — Phillip Dorsett and Rashawn Scott — also return. Throw in a complementary rushing attack in tailback Duke Johnson (947 yards, 10 TDs in 2012), and this offense could once again find itself among the top units in the ACC with Morris as one of the headliners.

Brooks liked what he saw in Morris’ mechanics, as well, which could mean further improvement after another offseason of workouts. Given the quarterback’s natural talent and the Miami offense’s experience heading into the 2013 season, more NFL scouts could be jumping onto the Morris bandwagon as the season progresses.

Good article. It would be interesting to know Morris' stats had his receivers not gone through a period of dropping nearly everything. Also, I can think of at least 1 INT completely attributed to the WR popping a ball up.

 

[ucrew02]

Over/Under 3.5 players knocked out of the game completely because of Perryman this year?

No doubt, I just hope one isn't him. I don't want to sound like a downer but a kid that ridiculously muscular can be injury prone in football if the training isn't on point. Its a fine line.

But yeah, he's going to be on a few highlight reels I'm sure

The scary part is Kirby is around that weight now as well and that kid can hit as well. If the DL can be even average our defense could be light years better.

I haven't seen Kirby much but it isn't the actual weight I'm talking about. Its the amount of muscle. Kid is built like a bodybuilder. Not saying its bad or wrong, but IMO guys built like that are more prone to injuries playing football. But at the same time, injuries can happen to anyone anytime.

Perryman is injury prone. It's not because of all the muscle he's carrying. If anything, I'd argue him being weaker would result in him being off the field far more often. What were his injuries last year? I remember the ankle but there was something else wasn't there?

 

[HurricaneU]

Cannot wait to see Coley out there.

 

[stat1124]

Fan2010 -

Here was Morris breakdown of drop pass and bad throws from last season. You can see how good he could have been from the stats below:

I rewatched all of the games from 2012 and logged all the drops, low throws and Overthrows. If the bad throw resulted in missed touchdown, the number would be in (*1). {i.e. Drops: 7(*1) would be 7 total drops and one of those drops was in the endzone for a touchdown}

Below is how Stephen Morris performed for 2012.

Stephen Morris: Pass Comp: 245/421 Yards: 3345 CMP %: 58.2 TD: 21 INT: 7 QB Rating: 138.1

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[td]INT[/td]
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[td]BC[/td]
[td]7(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
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[td]KSU[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]BCC[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2(*2)[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]GT[/td]
[td]4(*1)[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]7(*3)[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]NCST[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3(*2)[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]ND[/td]
[td]6(*2)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1(*1)[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]UNC[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]FSU[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]VT[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3(*1)[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]UVA[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3(*2)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]USF[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]DUKE[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]TOTALS[/td]
[td]48 (4 Missed TDs)[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]34 (13 Missed TDs)[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Morris was erratic at times, even more than I thought he was. However In the last four games, Morris overthrew 5 guys for sure touchdowns. Overall he missed 13 TD opportunities because he has trouble putting a little air under the ball. Out of the 13 overthrows, only 3 were less than 25 yards. Imagine what his passing stats would have been if he connected on just half of those. The ND and UNC game losses along with the NCST were the worse games for our receivers logging over 5 drops/game during that three game stretch.

For having 421 attempts, 61 Errant throws really isn't good but it also isn't all that bad. Averages out to be ~14% of time, Morris is good for a really bad throw. I'll take 86% chance of success to Las Vegas any day. (Btw, I did not include any pass breakups for under/overthrown balls even if throw was considered to be suspect but catchable.)

Good article. It would be interesting to know Morris' stats had his receivers not gone through a period of dropping nearly everything. Also, I can think of at least 1 INT completely attributed to the WR popping a ball up.

 

[blackvern]

Stopped reading when it insinuated waters was the third fastest player on the team

 

[LUcanesfan]

I guess Mark Whipple knew what he was doing when he offered Morris a scholarship, huh? Lol.

Real talk, Stephen has had some of the brightest offensive minds to coach him (Whipple, Jedd Fisch and now James Coley who helped coached E.J. Manuel into the first round). This is not including the alumnus of 'QB U' (Walsh, Jim Kelly, etc.) that is mentoring him too. Dude is extremely blessed.

 

[skyman]

Fan2010 -

Here was Morris breakdown of drop pass and bad throws from last season. You can see how good he could have been from the stats below:

I rewatched all of the games from 2012 and logged all the drops, low throws and Overthrows. If the bad throw resulted in missed touchdown, the number would be in (*1). {i.e. Drops: 7(*1) would be 7 total drops and one of those drops was in the endzone for a touchdown}

Below is how Stephen Morris performed for 2012.

Stephen Morris: Pass Comp: 245/421 Yards: 3345 CMP %: 58.2 TD: 21 INT: 7 QB Rating: 138.1

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[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]Drops[/td]
[td]Low Throws[/td]
[td]Over Throws[/td]
[td]TD[/td]
[td]INT[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]BC[/td]
[td]7(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]KSU[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]BCC[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2(*2)[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]GT[/td]
[td]4(*1)[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]7(*3)[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]NCST[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3(*2)[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]ND[/td]
[td]6(*2)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1(*1)[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]UNC[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]FSU[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]VT[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3(*1)[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]UVA[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3(*2)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]USF[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]DUKE[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3(*1)[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]TOTALS[/td]
[td]48 (4 Missed TDs)[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]34 (13 Missed TDs)[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Morris was erratic at times, even more than I thought he was. However In the last four games, Morris overthrew 5 guys for sure touchdowns. Overall he missed 13 TD opportunities because he has trouble putting a little air under the ball. Out of the 13 overthrows, only 3 were less than 25 yards. Imagine what his passing stats would have been if he connected on just half of those. The ND and UNC game losses along with the NCST were the worse games for our receivers logging over 5 drops/game during that three game stretch.

For having 421 attempts, 61 Errant throws really isn't good but it also isn't all that bad. Averages out to be ~14% of time, Morris is good for a really bad throw. I'll take 86% chance of success to Las Vegas any day. (Btw, I did not include any pass breakups for under/overthrown balls even if throw was considered to be suspect but catchable.)

Good article. It would be interesting to know Morris' stats had his receivers not gone through a period of dropping nearly everything. Also, I can think of at least 1 INT completely attributed to the WR popping a ball up.

Cot Dam, good stuff stat. That might even need its own thread honestly

 

[Problem2]

Stopped reading when it insinuated waters was the third fastest player on the team

Lolz

 

[Jassid82]

David Boston agrees with you JHallCanes. That guy was more interested in lotioning and oiling his muscles then he was being an NFL WR. He was walking tissue paper after he put on all that ridiculous muscle. Smh. Im hoping the coaches are keeping an eye on DP because we cant afford to have him always injured esp since we lost EJ.

IIRC only 6 WRs can travel on road games. That is going to be a SICK battle between Lewis, Coley, Carter, Jones for those last 2 spots. Im not sold that Lewis is 100% that is why he put him in that group. WOW @ Waters running in the 4.3 range. Swasey is puttin in work with him. He was a 4.7 guy comin into UM.

Dorsett doesnt have to be Santana. If he just give us a little Kevin Williams or Roscoe Parrish type production that will put this WR corp over the top. He cant have mental lapses like he did toward the end of the season. Or he will lose his job for good this time.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

This year could be special. WE ARE LOADED AT WR. damnit. best WR group in the country.

 

[Fzac75]

Get that completion percentage over 65% for Morris, improving on exactly what he said he had to work on the footwork and the touch and accuracy on the short and intermediate routes, and this offense is unstoppable, and he's a finalist for heisman. Too many times last year our offense would run hot then cold in games, improvement on those aspects in his game will keep the offense running smooth and consistent throughout. Was the drops by the WR's an issue? Absolutely and that too has to be addressed, but his accuracy and touch on the short and intermediate routes was a big issue last year for him. Thankfully that is something that can be worked on and corrected, and by all accounts it looks to be going that way.

On Kirby, I went to one of the camps they held for kids and saw him up front, the boy is built but he's a shorty. I'm 5'11", I'm telling you he's 5'10.5" at most and that's pushing it.

 

[cane305]

dammit mane, I try to be as cynical as possible during the preseason so i don't get disappointed.

 

[JHallCanes]

Over/Under 3.5 players knocked out of the game completely because of Perryman this year?

No doubt, I just hope one isn't him. I don't want to sound like a downer but a kid that ridiculously muscular can be injury prone in football if the training isn't on point. Its a fine line.

But yeah, he's going to be on a few highlight reels I'm sure

The scary part is Kirby is around that weight now as well and that kid can hit as well. If the DL can be even average our defense could be light years better.

I haven't seen Kirby much but it isn't the actual weight I'm talking about. Its the amount of muscle. Kid is built like a bodybuilder. Not saying its bad or wrong, but IMO guys built like that are more prone to injuries playing football. But at the same time, injuries can happen to anyone anytime.

Perryman is injury prone. It's not because of all the muscle he's carrying. If anything, I'd argue him being weaker would result in him being off the field far more often. What were his injuries last year? I remember the ankle but there was something else wasn't there?

I realize the past injuries aren't related but there's a lot to the theories that muscles stretched past or at max capacity are more at risk to pop, or tear. But regardless, I don't want this to turn into one of those threads. It's just some food for thought and a discussion piece. Certainly not complaining that the kid is beasting out in the weight room.

 

[Canesfan1899]

No doubt, I just hope one isn't him. I don't want to sound like a downer but a kid that ridiculously muscular can be injury prone in football if the training isn't on point. Its a fine line.

But yeah, he's going to be on a few highlight reels I'm sure

The scary part is Kirby is around that weight now as well and that kid can hit as well. If the DL can be even average our defense could be light years better.

I haven't seen Kirby much but it isn't the actual weight I'm talking about. Its the amount of muscle. Kid is built like a bodybuilder. Not saying its bad or wrong, but IMO guys built like that are more prone to injuries playing football. But at the same time, injuries can happen to anyone anytime.

Perryman is injury prone. It's not because of all the muscle he's carrying. If anything, I'd argue him being weaker would result in him being off the field far more often. What were his injuries last year? I remember the ankle but there was something else wasn't there?

I realize the past injuries aren't related but there's a lot to the theories that muscles stretched past or at max capacity are more at risk to pop, or tear. But regardless, I don't want this to turn into one of those threads. It's just some food for thought and a discussion piece. Certainly not complaining that the kid is beasting out in the weight room.

Hopefully Swassey has him doing a serious stretching program as well.

 

[TwoZero]

nice stats there, stat

onlookers be advised, though: don't look at the 17 missed TD's and assume Morris could have thrown for 38. i'm sure some of those missed TD throws resulted in passing TD drives, so some numbers might be duplicated that way. regardless, it certainly shows that Morris missed a fair amount of opportunities last year and, if fixed, has the potential to have a much more efficient season.