Brilliant Coaching (If not **** Move) or Lucky Corching?

[Dghustla]

12 men on the field and still single covered 4. Wasn’t that genius lol


In real time when I saw how much time ticked off I thought to myself if it wasn’t on purpose it should have been

 

[Dghustla]

The biggest take away here is not only is Ryan Day bad at coaching he’s also bad at corchin

 

[Empirical Cane]

The biggest take away here is not only is Ryan Day bad at coaching he’s also bad at corchin

Highly touted dual-threat recruit.

 

[Awizonme]

Anyone that thinks he did this on purpose does Sweatin to the Oldies

Sweatin to the oldies, took me out

 

[Hoyacane1620]

I suppose I’ll take an L on this but…I still really can’t believe it

You take a penalty to put the team on the edge of field goal range? While they still have a timeout and another play where they can most likely easily get 5-10 yards in the middle of the field?

And what makes you look like a genius instead of a corch is the QB absolutely short circuiting?

The Buddy Ryan play makes perfect sense. This? I would never root for OSU but he should have been punished by the football gods on this one if he’s telllng the truth

why doubt it? Lanning basically admitted it. I have no doubt he was prepared to do whatever it took to win and the opportunity presented itself in that game to pull that ....

There was discussion on one segment of the sports center broadcast today. There were apparently two options open to Day to counteract it but you would have had to be so deep in the rule book it's unlikely anyone knew them.....

 

[Stats02]

First time I noticed the fake injury thang was when Butch staged it, it seemed, after every play in our 2018 humiliation vs FIU. Did he start or jumpstart the trend?
Ah, the memories…

The NFL has been doing this for years. College just now really catching on the last couple years and abusing this. Don't know if Butch jumpstarted the trend for college, but he sure wasn't afraid to use it against us. I believe one of California's coaches was one of the first coaches to use this back when they had to play Chip Kelly's up temp Oregon squads every year.

I think majority of college coaches were aware of this even 10+ years ago, but just didn't do it because it was so bush league. Most coaches, not all, but most actually tried to be respectful of the rules and the game. Now, they just don't care. Winning is all that matters.

 

[JHallCanes]

why doubt it? Lanning basically admitted it. I have no doubt he was prepared to do whatever it took to win and the opportunity presented itself in that game to pull that ....

There was discussion on one segment of the sports center broadcast today. There were apparently two options open to Day to counteract it but you would have had to be so deep in the rule book it's unlikely anyone knew them.....

Yeah it’s why I said I’ll take the L on doubting it but sheesh…if Howard just gets down a second earlier and they kick the game winner…idk. I’m not saying it’s point blank a bad decision but with the ball on the 43 I just would opt to let my defense make the stop rather than give them 5 yards. Not sure OSU can get much more than that at a time in that situation anyway

On the flip side the Buddy Ryan situation I thought make sense because a score is already a given where this case 5 yards is a lot to give up when it comes to field goals

Also I should say I have no idea if OSUs kicker can make one from 55

 

[CaneThang2020]

Fake injury?

No - Dan Lanning purposely sending a 12th player on the field after a timeout with 12 seconds left to go in the game. He essentially used the 12 players to ensure OSU didn’t get into field goal range and also drain time off the clock.

Result was a 5 yard illegal substitution penalty from the previous spot, and 6 seconds drained off the clock and an incomplete pass leaving OSU with basically 1 play and outside of field goal range.

It was pure genius AND virtually impossible for officials to rule “unfair tactics”….game over and win for Oregon/Lanning

 

[E1k]

This board hates lanning for zero logical reason lmao, i could understand the lane hate even tho its stupid as well but yall just hate any coach people compared mario too

Also credit to their staff but this guy will howard had 6 seconds and he decided to scan the whole field then take off lmao. Every smart move in football has a dummy making it look genius lol

 

[firstandcanes]

If this truly is a tactic to burn time in last second situations, the only way to stop it is a rule change. If a team has twelve men on the field the play should be blown dead immediately so no time comes off the clock.


But fvck O$U anyways.

 

[DCane]

I have no problem believing this was on purpose, but in my opinion, I think it's a horrible tactic given the kicking range of most college kickers. That being said, I don't know if Ohio State has a kicker that can make it from 50 plus. And if they don't, then I would say it was a good move in that particular situation. But definitely not something every coach should do.

If Oregon tried to do that to Miami, I would be thrilled! From the 43 yard line, that's a 60 yd field goal which is right at the limits of Borregales' range. If Oregon wants to give Cam Ward 6 seconds, one time out, and only needing about 3-5 yards to get into guaranteed range, I feel pretty good we're going to win that game. Cam would get at least 5 and Borregales has proven to be pretty good from 50 plus.

Even for Ohio State, if Howard just takes the immediate throw to the sideline off his 3 step drop, where he had an open receiver, he picks up at least 5 yards as the receiver turns up field and goes out of bounds. And the Buckeyes still have two seconds on the clock. But instead, Howard pump fakes, hesitates in the pocket, and then finally takes off running where he gets about 8 yards before sliding down as time expires. If Howard is just a little quicker on his decision making, Ohio State takes a game winning field goal from inside 55 yards and we might be saying something very different about Lanning's decision.

 

[CaneThang2020]

NCAA Officiating brass not playing around - new rule adjustment/interpretation just went into effect today due to the Oregon/Ohio State game. Memo directly from the top for ALL conferences - figured it was coming after Lanning admitted it was on purpose to take advantage of the substitution rule. Keep in mind this is applied only UNDER 2min before halftime and in the 4th qtr.

Essentially, had that happened this Saturday- IF the officials deem a 12th player attempting to hustle off the field AND he is not affecting the play, normal substitution rules/penalty is applied.

IF a team plays with 12 players, without describing the various scenarios, essentially you take the result of the play, say a 5yard pass, tack on the 5 yard penalty, replay that down, RESET the game clock to where it was prior to the last snap, AND clock doesn’t start until the snap.

Excellent rule adjustment IMO because a defense should never benefit from committing a foul - and this was commented on as the primary reason the adjustment/interpretation was made.

 

[ristwasdown]

NCAA Officiating brass not playing around - new rule adjustment/interpretation just went into effect today due to the Oregon/Ohio State game. Memo directly from the top for ALL conferences - figured it was coming after Lanning admitted it was on purpose to take advantage of the substitution rule. Keep in mind this is applied only UNDER 2min before halftime and in the 4th qtr.

Essentially, had that happened this Saturday- IF the officials deem a 12th player attempting to hustle off the field AND he is not affecting the play, normal substitution rules/penalty is applied.

IF a team plays with 12 players, without describing the various scenarios, essentially you take the result of the play, say a 5yard pass, tack on the 5 yard penalty, replay that down, RESET the game clock to where it was prior to the last snap, AND clock doesn’t start until the snap.

Excellent rule adjustment IMO because a defense should never benefit from committing a foul - and this was commented on as the primary reason the adjustment/interpretation was made.

But...then Lanning could have just had someone run off last second and still achieve what he wanted. It's not like the 12th man was really helping stop a big play.

 

[Dracula]

This team feels "streaky." A big run leads to another. TD. Canes punt. Opponent bomb for 6. Then Cam turns into Brock Berlin 2.0 and reams everyone.

The only things I can attribute are the early meatball schedule and the injuries. It's too simplistic to fall into the Cane fan trend of "blame the coach"/national trend of "Coach of the World."

Holding zero expectations? Difficult. Yet it's my only method not to Bugs Bunny through a wall every week. Cardiac Canes test the unholy bejesus out of me.

 

[CaneThang2020]

But...then Lanning could have just had someone run off last second and still achieve what he wanted. It's not like the 12th man was really helping stop a big play.

Go back and watch the play - the 12 guy was ABSOLUTELY involved in the play….he most certainly wasn’t out there just wandering around

 

[Jolson1927]

The NFL has been doing this for years. College just now really catching on the last couple years and abusing this. Don't know if Butch jumpstarted the trend for college, but he sure wasn't afraid to use it against us. I believe one of California's coaches was one of the first coaches to use this back when they had to play Chip Kelly's up temp Oregon squads every year.

I think majority of college coaches were aware of this even 10+ years ago, but just didn't do it because it was so bush league. Most coaches, not all, but most actually tried to be respectful of the rules and the game. Now, they just don't care. Winning is all that matters.

I really don’t know the NCAA can stop this. Maybe ban a player for the rest of the drive or even the next drive, too. But then you’d end up punishing a player - and his team- who really is hurt.

 

[ristwasdown]

Go back and watch the play - the 12 guy was ABSOLUTELY involved in the play….he most certainly wasn’t out there just wandering around

Sure, but the ultimate goal was the clock mgmt imo

 

[Cribby]

By having the player come out there in pre snap it helped the defense to even up the numbers against the offensive formation ,If not for that Ohio State had the numbers advantage and were obviously trying to use the formation to get something towards the sideline to stop the clock. Using bunch to work a pick. Which made it beyond obvious it was on purpose.

So he got an extra man to defend a formation where they’d be outnumbered , he kept the sideline from being used and he also got 4-5 seconds off the clock. So now they only had a Hail Mary or long *** field goal and all he had to do was give up five yards for that to happen. Lanning doing that made them have to go to the far sideline in the 1 v 1 with a safety over the top and that is a long *** throw that takes more time , also more risky .

Lastly, anytime you see this in todays game there’s a coach that knows the players number count and either the coach calls a timeout , try’s to call a timeout , the player runs off , tries to run off or the sideline is losing it to get them off. This was next level ****.

But...then Lanning could have just had someone run off last second and still achieve what he wanted. It's not like the 12th man was really helping stop a big play.

 

[Return of the U]

I have hard time believing a guy who makes more corching decisions than Mario.

This is the same guy that has lost games going for 4th down well on his end of the field when his D is playing well, refusing to take points repeatedly including against Washington last year and OSU this year.

He also made a Twitter post about how he "turned down" the Bama job. Despite guys like Josh pate adamantly stating that DeBoer was always the guy (He was hired in 48 hours tops).

Lanning is a corch in game and loves spinning publicity (nothing wrong with that, but not making him believable).

Zero benefit of the doubt imo but if you guys want to believe this clown is some genius have at it.