Breakdown of assignment weakness

[poncho0091]

DB coverage weakness breakdown
thought this was an interesting read on the breakdown of coverage and why we're getting gashed for so many big plays. Hopefully some things to fix, but might just have to suffer through it this season.

 

[OptimusCreampie]

Good article. Still head scratching if it’s players, the ability of our players, coaching or coaching scheme and assignments. Hope it’s somewhat sorted out Saturday.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Poorly coached LBs/DBs

 

[poncho0091]

Poorly coached LBs/DBs

I don't disagree, but some guys just aren't wired to ever get it. Hopefully that's not the case here.

 

[DTP]

Pretty good article. We are very undisciplined in the back seven. Guys overcommitting and either ignoring or not knowing their responsibilities has gotten us gouged for huge plays the last two games. For all the worry about our line not being stout enough against the run, it’s actually the bag seven that are killing us. Chasing the big play and leaving your assignment wide open. Crashing on inside runs and leaving nobody to defend the cut back. This should be fundamental stuff but we’ve been over aggressive and undisciplined going back to Manny.

I don’t think it’s quite as bleak as the article paints it. Our guys should know their assignments and play within the system. If they don’t at least have that part down, they’re screwed.

 

[kyle_schick]

It's coaching.

Happened last year all the time with an entire different set of players.

 

[Noliaboi]

It's coaching.

Happened last year all the time with an entire different set of players.

Starting to look like that. If you limited physical but always in the right position that would be better than what we are currently getting.

Guidry coaches Safeties also.

 

[3FW]

We knew coming in that the DBs were a problem, especially at Safety. With Brown out and no safety who has exhibited that they should be anywhere near the field, I have to think we will see some changes on Saturday. The one thing Louisville has is a downfield passing game. I have no idea what team shows up. May be time to see more of ZP and DD.

 

[grover]

When I see every other team playing Va Tech and Cal avoiding the big plays we couldn't stop, I am 100% certain it's more coaching than players. Those other opponents aren't producing DBs any more talented than ours.

 

[M3N]

Hopefully there is a ton of self scouting this week.

Cal is *** and Guidry got butt ****ed half the game

 

[Memnon]

Are you guys sure you read that article in its entirety?

Because if you did, idk how you can come away with the conclusion its Coaching.

Pretty much every example he highlighted was guys missing plays due to poor eye discipline & not knowing their assignments.

The majority of our big gash yardage plays have been either LB's or Safeties literally not knowing where they're supposed to be in relations to the call of the Defense. That's not Coaching, that's a lack of understanding your assignment because you're either not doing film study or you simply can't retain the information being taught to you.

The LB unit & DB group are abandoning their fundamentals & playing the way they want to, as opposed to what they're being told. Now that you can blame on Coaching, but the majority of the big plays are not of a result of bad Defensive calls, but rather a result of players not trusting what they practiced.

 

[Brains]

Kiko Mauigoa was terrible against the pass last year, and still is.

Wesley Bissainthe was terrible against the pass last year, and still is.

Jaden Harris consistently makes the wrong diagnosis and gets out of position.

Jadais Richard can't cover or tackle.

Powell can't tackle for his life.

Our DBs and LBs are not highly talented. We desperately need Brown back.

Lance Guidry is a **** good defensive coordinator, and he makes very good in-game adjustments.

 

[grover]

Are you guys sure you read that article in its entirety?

Because if you did, idk how you can come away with the conclusion its Coaching.

Pretty much every example he highlighted was guys missing plays due to poor eye discipline & not knowing their assignments.

The majority of our big gash yardage plays have been either LB's or Safeties literally not knowing where they're supposed to be in relations to the call of the Defense. That's not Coaching, that's a lack of understanding your assignment because you're either not doing film study or you simply can't retain the information being taught to you.

The LB unit & DB group are abandoning their fundamentals & playing the way they want to, as opposed to what they're being told. Now that you can blame on Coaching, but the majority of the big plays are not of a result of bad Defensive calls, but rather a result of players not trusting what they practiced.

IMO, if it's once or twice, then it's on the players. If it's a problem of fundamentals, then it's on the coaches. Like the 21 missed tackles vs Va Tech, I think we have a systemic problem with our DBs, which I believe make it the coaches' fault.

 

[Brains]

IMO, if it's once or twice, then it's on the players. If it's a problem of fundamentals, then it's on the coaches. Like the 21 missed tackles vs Va Tech, I think we have a systemic problem with our DBs, which I believe make it the coaches' fault.

The systemic problem is the lack of talent in the room. Our DBs will be fixed by recruiting.

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

IMO, if it's once or twice, then it's on the players. If it's a problem of fundamentals, then it's on the coaches. Like the 21 missed tackles vs Va Tech, I think we have a systemic problem with our DBs, which I believe make it the coaches' fault.

Being stout in all 4 quarters even for NFL players is difficult.
The coaches can only do so much putting them in position and getting them mentally focused locked in.
Players just gotta know their assignments be disciplined and make the plays, all it comes down to

 

[Memnon]

IMO, if it's once or twice, then it's on the players. If it's a problem of fundamentals, then it's on the coaches. Like the 21 missed tackles vs Va Tech, I think we have a systemic problem with our DBs, which I believe make it the coaches' fault.

21 missed tackles can't be the Coaches fault, that would insinuate that the Coaches are literally not teaching them how to tackle. 21 missed tackles is a matter of Effort & physical will.

The systemic problem is that they're not actually that good.

But, here's an interesting dichotomy. On one hand, many of you will say to trust the Coaches on all their evals & that they essentially have a 100% hit rate, but then on the other hand, yall are saying it's the Coaches fault when those same players aren't playing well. So which is it?

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Are you guys sure you read that article in its entirety?

Because if you did, idk how you can come away with the conclusion its Coaching.

Pretty much every example he highlighted was guys missing plays due to poor eye discipline & not knowing their assignments.

The majority of our big gash yardage plays have been either LB's or Safeties literally not knowing where they're supposed to be in relations to the call of the Defense. That's not Coaching, that's a lack of understanding your assignment because you're either not doing film study or you simply can't retain the information being taught to you.

The LB unit & DB group are abandoning their fundamentals & playing the way they want to, as opposed to what they're being told. Now that you can blame on Coaching, but the majority of the big plays are not of a result of bad Defensive calls, but rather a result of players not trusting what they practiced.

I will continue to blame coaching because it’s an ongoing issue, going back to last season

 

[Memnon]

I will continue to blame coaching because it’s an ongoing issue, going back to last season

Is that under the assumption the players have remained at the same level of play or gotten worse?

From a personnel standpoint, our Secondary wasn't any good last year, so blaming the Coaches would have to be under the premise they replenished the Secondary with better players.

 

[bacane]

Just a thought . . . maybe it's coaching/system and talent issue.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Is that under the assumption the players have remained at the same level of play or gotten worse?

From a personnel standpoint, our Secondary wasn't any good last year, so blaming the Coaches would have to be under the premise they replenished the Secondary with better players.

I def hear you on the talent issues. I don’t disagree. If anything, it’s a combination of the two