Bleak Visions VII -THE REALEST **** I EVER WROTE

[ProjectMKUltra5]

The players wanted Coker to, they aren't always right.

I challenge any of you to find a QB as far along in their development as Kaaya is right now. The right call was made in starting him all year

 

[DiegoCane]

I don't have a problem with any of this. I'd hate Goldens guts too.

Think it funny that the players wanted Heaps, considering he is awful. However there is usually a lot of animosity when a FR comes in and starts.

Blackvern are you boys with Genron? That is an offense in itself

Players hate Coley too? Kaaya is Coleys guy.

 

[gangis2169]

I think that is 100% the point. You literally just made his argument. If you can't ask a freshman to do that, then maybe he is not the guy to be starting at that point.

How is that Kaaya's fault? Williams was a **** and got hurt and just incase you guys missed it Heaps was a dumpster fire. No choice that has nothing to do with the players. Just my opinion I hate Golden I would have redshirted Kaaya and killed this season by starting Heaps. We were not going to do **** this year anyway.

Kayaa was a dumpster fire in the first couple games. I didn't say it was Kayaa's fault, it is what it is. Whether or not it's Kayaa's fault does not change the fact that the players wanted Williams and Heaps to start. Do you see where this is going? You're defending Kayaa and saying his current weaknesses are not his fault, but then damning the players for saying Kayaa was not ready to be the starter.

What? I am not damning anyone. Divas want what they want. Kaaya is polished you may not believe it cause you wanted Kaaya to step in and be Peyton Manning at 18-19 with horrible play calling and somehow convinced yourself that would happen but the truth is Kaaya was far from a dumpster fire and look at those games notice some things. Dropped balls, cutting routes short, etc. It is what it is don't matter who was back there this team sucks.

You say you're not damning anyone, but immediately throw the rest of the team under the bus as divas and the team sucks right after you said that. That's straight out of the Al Golden playbook!!!!!!!!

I was not expecting anything from Kayaa. Believe me, he has far exceeded my expectations this year. I felt like he was just going to be another freshman who would struggle, so don't know how you think I thought he was going to be the next Peyton Manning. If you doubt that, please find my post that says otherwise (hint: you won't find it).

I'm just backing vern on his statement. If the players said the other guys were more prepared to be the guy at the time, then I'm taking the players word for it. Regardless of the rest. This might be a different story if Kayaa were in his Junior year and they are telling me Williams or Heaps is the guy, based on their experience, but it's not. You had a true freshman who didn't step up in the clutch which may be what the players were concerned with.

I love what Kayaa brings to the table and think he has a bright future. He played very well this season, but again, if the players thought one of those guys deserved it, then maybe that's the case.

Sorry I meant the WR's and yes this team does suck there are a lot of gaping holes and no depth and played down to opponents even when they were in the right position. Oh and where the **** are you reading that Vern said the players thought another guy was more prepared? It was never said. Lets be honest it's not a true freshman's job t pull us out of horrible games in which our defense and offensive line were beyond bad. So yes some of the players wanted the safe bet. Some of the players wanted the kid who actually was prepared and 100% more talented.

 

[CBurrr93]

Forget all yall hating on kaaya that's messed up. It'd be funny if we went 3-9 with heaps or Williams. You guys are insane. Wasn't his fault so stfu

 

[grogz26]

@Forston99: Karma is a MFer.....

Forston has no place at the table...

Golden sucks but Forston sucked a lot more

So glad my Patriots cut his ***

 

[blackvern]

I don't have a problem with any of this. I'd hate Goldens guts too.

Think it funny that the players wanted Heaps, considering he is awful. However there is usually a lot of animosity when a FR comes in and starts.

Blackvern are you boys with Genron? That is an offense in itself

Players hate Coley too? Kaaya is Coleys guy.

Na not boys but ive heard him talk amongst a group of coaches about the situation

 

[gangis2169]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

I like kaaya

Dont hate him just telling you what some players thought..that they didnt trust him or golden at beginning of year.... and that they wanted williams to start when he got back from injury..and as far as heaps cmon you guys saw the videos of players reactions..cmon mane

Naw your right your all for him: "Because Kayaa is a ****" come on Vern you need to fess up a little lol

 

[weownfsu]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

I like kaaya

Dont hate him just telling you what some players thought..that they didnt trust him or golden at beginning of year.... and that they wanted williams to start when he got back from injury..and as far as heaps cmon you guys saw the videos of players reactions..cmon mane[/QUOTE]

Who ******* cares? They are being idiots. Kaaya put UM in a better position to win games, period. That's really not debatable.

 

[Gransapo]

****. Everyone on the team is a *****.

 

[DiegoCane]

I don't have a problem with any of this. I'd hate Goldens guts too.

Think it funny that the players wanted Heaps, considering he is awful. However there is usually a lot of animosity when a FR comes in and starts.

Blackvern are you boys with Genron? That is an offense in itself

Players hate Coley too? Kaaya is Coleys guy.

Na not boys but ive heard him talk amongst a group of coaches about the situation

I wouldn't believe a ******* thing he says.

He also said Valentine could get into Stanford.

 

[blackvern]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

I like kaaya

Dont hate him just telling you what some players thought..that they didnt trust him or golden at beginning of year.... and that they wanted williams to start when he got back from injury..and as far as heaps cmon you guys saw the videos of players reactions..cmon mane

Naw your right your all for him: "Because Kayaa is a ****" come on Vern you need to fess up a little lol

I said thats what a player said not me..cmon mane

 

[gangis2169]

I am by all means not for Golden but havent we dealt with Diva slouches for years? Forston is a prime example. I can list tons of players that we have recruited that had there heads in the clouds. Maybe because we are not getting the cream of the crop of So Fla we are getting the divas. Just wondering what you guys think?

 

[cane since birth]

So vern you saying the whole Valentine thing was true, so pete was wrong in saying it never happened?

yep...wrongly worded... but it was true and yes i know Genron... he was a **** for saying i..t but it was true

Naw i worded it right, wonder who gave pete his info

 

[gangis2169]

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

I like kaaya

Dont hate him just telling you what some players thought..that they didnt trust him or golden at beginning of year.... and that they wanted williams to start when he got back from injury..and as far as heaps cmon you guys saw the videos of players reactions..cmon mane

Naw your right your all for him: "Because Kayaa is a ****" come on Vern you need to fess up a little lol

I said thats what a player said not me..cmon mane

Ok well you got to specify homie cant throw **** to the wind thats a Genron move. Let me guess was it a WR lol

 

[Tad Footeball]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program and coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

 

[blackvern]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program that coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

Williams had a scholly to arkansas when Petrino was there...

 

[gangis2169]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program that coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

Williams had a scholly to arkansas when Petrino was there...

Vern have you actually watched this kid play cause I have numerous times. Like I said no going to win us games not going to lose us games. You dont think that is an upgrade do you? Not talking about the players I am asking you?

 

[SFbayCane]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program and coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

i do not share that opinion about Ryan Williams. He should have gotten the start tonight. It was senior night and we were a 6-5 team coming in. There was nothing of significance on the line tonight. The seniors could have been treated way better. Even if Ryan only gets 2 or 3 series, it was the right thing to do. And once again, Al failed.

 

[weownfsu]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program and coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

i do not share that opinion about Ryan Williams. He should have gotten the start tonight. It was senior night and we were a 6-5 team coming in. There was nothing of significance on the line tonight. The seniors could have been treated way better. Even if Ryan only gets 2 or 3 series, it was the right thing to do. And once again, Al failed.

lmao

 

[Tad Footeball]

I'm still trying to figure out what the players supposedly think/thought Kaaya is/was. A puss? A diva? Soft?

That said, if they thought Ryan Williams or Jake Heaps deserved anything or were the better answer then the level or retardation in this program has spread to epidemic levels.

You know what else? Spare me the Ryan Williams is a Cane through and through horsecrap. Kid never showed anything and was a transfer from a junk program that coincidentally ended up back in the same town of his high school sweetheart turned babymomma turned wife. We did him as much a favor as he ever did us and that kid shouldn't even have come close to ever sniffing the field for us if we weren't running a ****show of a program in relation to QB recruiting/development prior to Kaaya.

Williams had a scholly to arkansas when Petrino was there...

You just gave me a mild stroke, bro. If the side of my face is paralyzed for the rest my life then that's on you....and Ryan effing Williams to a lesser extent. Please stop talking about this kid. I beg you.