Bleak Visions VII -THE REALEST **** I EVER WROTE

[fincane]

"* Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know.
"

Looks like Golden recruited too many retards.

we went 6-6

could we really have done any worst with another QB and the talent on this team??

Yes.

 

[SFbayCane]

Ryan Williams should have gotten time last season too. Stephen morris should have been bench on a number occasions. The coaches simply do not like Ryan Williams.


As well, Ryan Williams should have gotten the start on senior day. Even if he only gave him a couple series. It was a ***** move by al. What were we playing for? Was the 7th win that important?

It was for Al, because he knows it might cost him his job.

Exactly why I said it was a ***** move.

I remember Jimmy gave Geoff Torretta the start on senior day in '86 when Vinnie was in the thick of the Heisman hunt. Vinnie won it anyway.

 

[grogz26]

"* Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know.
"

Looks like Golden recruited too many retards.

we went 6-6

could we really have done any worst with another QB and the talent on this team??

Kaaya is 100x better than any QB on our roster...only an idiot would suggest that he shouldn't start

He prob will be all-acc

 

[weownfsu]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

 

[gangis2169]

Go look at Kayyas numbers in the 4th qtr against teams when we were down..

4 int's 1 TD and 42% completion perceentage when the pressure is on

Yea he is more talented than williams but Williams wouldnt have put up those numbers in crunch time.

Lol come on Vern your bringing up bogus numbers. Those games we were 3qrts in of predictable play calling playing from behind where we were asking a true freshman to do to much. Can't put that on Kaaya.

I think that is 100% the point. You literally just made his argument. If you can't ask a freshman to do that, then maybe he is not the guy to be starting at that point.

How is that Kaaya's fault? Williams was a **** and got hurt and just incase you guys missed it Heaps was a dumpster fire. No choice that has nothing to do with the players. Just my opinion I hate Golden I would have redshirted Kaaya and killed this season by starting Heaps. We were not going to do **** this year anyway.

Kayaa was a dumpster fire in the first couple games. I didn't say it was Kayaa's fault, it is what it is. Whether or not it's Kayaa's fault does not change the fact that the players wanted Williams and Heaps to start. Do you see where this is going? You're defending Kayaa and saying his current weaknesses are not his fault, but then damning the players for saying Kayaa was not ready to be the starter.

What? I am not damning anyone. Divas want what they want. Kaaya is polished you may not believe it cause you wanted Kaaya to step in and be Peyton Manning at 18-19 with horrible play calling and somehow convinced yourself that would happen but the truth is Kaaya was far from a dumpster fire and look at those games notice some things. Dropped balls, cutting routes short, etc. It is what it is don't matter who was back there this team sucks.

 

[grogz26]

We all know that if anyone but Kaaya started this game everyone hear would be rip sh*t

 

[blackvern]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

 

[gangis2169]

I kinda wish Hurns was still here for the intermediate routes cause Coley and Dorsett cant run they for d*ck. They both have a ton of talent and dorsett had a great year but I believe that hurt Kaaya. We had Walford wish was great but having the intermediates with deep threats is lethal. Having 2 guys on the field that can only go deep made is very predictable.

 

[wherrera8]

AL Golden remaining as the coach is the same as us being on the death penalty.

They can't embarrass you when you get the penalty. Golden can though.

 

[gangis2169]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

 

[TriStarCane]

Golden is asking a bunch of savage, ferocious dobermans to be lap dogs. His system, values, ideas, ideals and attitude are NOT the right fit for these kids. That's the end of it. These kids just want their shine. They want to ball out and make money. When those things are threatened due to poor coaching, this **** happens. If Al had this squad under Kaaya, Williams or the Easter Bunny headed to Charlotte next week, NO ONE would give a ****!

 

[weownfsu]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

I'm talking about Jake Heaps . ""Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know.""

What are you even trying to say?

 

[cane since birth]

So vern you saying the whole Valentine thing was true, so pete was wrong in saying it never happened?

 

[Canes21]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

I'm talking about Jake Heaps . ""Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know.""

What are you even trying to say?

The players did not want Kaaya to start the season off because he had not earned their respect like Heaps had. Kaaya turned them off somehow, Heaps had not.

That's how I see it. Nothing that I find too crazy.

 

[blackvern]

So vern you saying the whole Valentine thing was true, so pete was wrong in saying it never happened?

yep...wrongly worded... but it was true and yes i know Genron... he was a ***** for saying i..t but it was true

 

[gangis2169]

So vern you saying the whole Valentine thing was true, so pete was wrong in saying it never happened?

It didnt happen the way either of them are saying I had this discussion with Vern a long time ago when I got into it with Genron. Ill try to pull the old stuff to show you. But basically it was actually true in the sense that it was said but pushed by Genron. Meaning you know the guy on the side trying to get to dudes to fight? Enter Genron.

 

[poncho0091]

Lol come on Vern your bringing up bogus numbers. Those games we were 3qrts in of predictable play calling playing from behind where we were asking a true freshman to do to much. Can't put that on Kaaya.

I think that is 100% the point. You literally just made his argument. If you can't ask a freshman to do that, then maybe he is not the guy to be starting at that point.

How is that Kaaya's fault? Williams was a **** and got hurt and just incase you guys missed it Heaps was a dumpster fire. No choice that has nothing to do with the players. Just my opinion I hate Golden I would have redshirted Kaaya and killed this season by starting Heaps. We were not going to do **** this year anyway.

Kayaa was a dumpster fire in the first couple games. I didn't say it was Kayaa's fault, it is what it is. Whether or not it's Kayaa's fault does not change the fact that the players wanted Williams and Heaps to start. Do you see where this is going? You're defending Kayaa and saying his current weaknesses are not his fault, but then damning the players for saying Kayaa was not ready to be the starter.

What? I am not damning anyone. Divas want what they want. Kaaya is polished you may not believe it cause you wanted Kaaya to step in and be Peyton Manning at 18-19 with horrible play calling and somehow convinced yourself that would happen but the truth is Kaaya was far from a dumpster fire and look at those games notice some things. Dropped balls, cutting routes short, etc. It is what it is don't matter who was back there this team sucks.

You say you're not damning anyone, but immediately throw the rest of the team under the bus as divas and the team sucks right after you said that. That's straight out of the Al Golden playbook!!!!!!!!

I was not expecting anything from Kayaa. Believe me, he has far exceeded my expectations this year. I felt like he was just going to be another freshman who would struggle, so don't know how you think I thought he was going to be the next Peyton Manning. If you doubt that, please find my post that says otherwise (hint: you won't find it).

I'm just backing vern on his statement. If the players said the other guys were more prepared to be the guy at the time, then I'm taking the players word for it. Regardless of the rest. This might be a different story if Kayaa were in his Junior year and they are telling me Williams or Heaps is the guy, based on their experience, but it's not. You had a true freshman who didn't step up in the clutch which may be what the players were concerned with.

I love what Kayaa brings to the table and think he has a bright future. He played very well this season, but again, if the players thought one of those guys deserved it, then maybe that's the case.

 

[blackvern]

Stop it Vern. We could have had Jameis Winston back there and we'd have gone 6-6, but that's not the point. Kaaya takes a giant **** on Heaps and it's not even close. Kaaya threw more TD as a true freshman than Heaps did in his career. If somebody didn't want KAaya starting over Heaps, obviously their football talent evaluations are not to be taken seriously.

Your not getting the point... we all agree talent wise Kaaya was better then Heaps and Williams.... Florida players wanted Treon over Driskel....and Miami players Wanted Williams over kaaya...it is what it is... Treon cant throw right now but he gave them a better chance to win for whatevfer reason. our best players felt same way about Williams..

This is what you told us: "Reason why players wanted Heaps to start over Kayaa? Because Kayaa is a ****, Heaps earned their respect..How? I dont know."
None of which explains anything. Basically your throwing **** against a screen of your hate for Kaaya. Next time explain a little more instead of just talking **** cause you dont like him.

I like kaaya

Dont hate him just telling you what some players thought..that they didnt trust him or golden at beginning of year.... and that they wanted williams to start when he got back from injury..and as far as heaps cmon you guys saw the videos of players reactions..cmon mane

 

[ABear]

I think Kaaya playing all season was the best decision. We don't gain much for the future if we throw Williams out there mid season. Kaaya has to have earned some respect from the team, he's taken a beating in some of these games.

 

[DNordy]

@Forston99: Karma is a MFer.....