Baseball: Manhattan Series

[Brian Piccolo]

That made no sense.

Then you're not a person of average intelligence. You're a person of lesser intelligence.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

By the way, in 2014, that red hot Texas Tech pitching staff came into Coral Gables losing five of their last nine and giving up 5+ runs per game. Must have been one heck of a motivational speech on the flight over.

Texas Tech pitching gave up 9 runs (only 6 earned) in 8 postseason games.

One of the great postseason runs in the history of the sport.

But they gave up some runs before that (when we didn't play them) so that apparently means something.

Teams don't develop great pitching staffs in a week. They weren't anything special in the regular season. They just happened to play three teams who couldn't hit, Miami being one of them. Their pitching staff couldn't shut down Kansas, but all of a sudden they became one of the great teams of all time? Doesn't work that way.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Teams don't develop great pitching staffs in a week.

I didn't say they had a great pitching staff now did I?

You need to start addressing my points directly instead of erecting strawmen.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

They weren't anything special in the regular season.

Shock!

Another thing I didn't say.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Their pitching staff couldn't shut down Kansas, but all of a sudden they became one of the great teams of all time?

And yet another thing I didn't say.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Doesn't work that way.

Good.

Because I didn't say a single thing that you addressed in your post.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Doesn't work that way.

Good.

Because I didn't say a single thing that you addressed in your post.

You have gone on and on about how great they were in the postseason. What you fail to acknowledge is that it wasn't that they were great, it was that we were so bad. You excuse 2014 because of Texas Tech's pitching when it was really our futility that eliminated us.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

You have gone on and on about how great they were in the postseason.

They were. That's just a fact.

I know that you've had a very hard time with facts in this thread but you're just going to have to admit it.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

What you fail to acknowledge is that it wasn't that they were great, it was that we were so bad.

They surrendered 7 runs (only 4 earned) in their other 5 postseason games. That's a 0.80 ERA.

You are a pathological hater. You are incapable of admitting anything that might be the least bit favorable to Miami. We played a team that was on an historic pitching run and your response is to claim that Miami sucks.

A complete and utter clown.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

You excuse 2014 because of Texas Tech's pitching when it was really our futility that eliminated us.

You've proven to be a complete dope who makes things up and literally hates Miami so viscerally that you dismiss historic pitching runs so you can crap on the Canes some more.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

What you fail to acknowledge is that it wasn't that they were great, it was that we were so bad.

They surrendered 7 runs (only 4 earned) in their other 5 postseason games. That's a 0.80 ERA.

You are a pathological hater. You are incapable of admitting anything that might be the least bit favorable to Miami. We played a team that was on an historic pitching run and your response is to claim that Miami sucks.

A complete and utter clown.

We didn't play a team that was on a historic pitching run. They played a team that was coached by Jim Morris.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The RPI has Gonzaga as a top 12 team. That makes perfect sense. The IRS has them in the 20's where they belong.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

We didn't play a team that was on a historic pitching run. They played a team that was coached by Jim Morris.

Like I said it's pathological. You're diseased.

I mentioned how Texas Tech had an 0.80 ERA against teams not named Miami and your response for that?

It's Jim Morris' fault.

You need to seek help.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

The RPI has Gonzaga as a top 12 team. That makes perfect sense. The IRS has them in the 20's where they belong.

Those ratings aren't meaningful at this point in the season. Wait until about week 4 of conference play and then get back to me.

But for somebody who's so ignorant about this sport here's an education on the ISR and how it's basically RPI-lite nowadays. This is a good post from another Canes fan that explains why the ISR and RPI differed so great, say, a decade ago and why they're very similar today.

RPI vs ISR - Best Indicator of Quality and Performance? | D1Baseball.com

On selection day in 2004, the ISR thought there should have been 4 western national seeds and 7 western hosts. Is it possible that the west coast just had a great year? Of course. But the ISR looked absolutely nothing like the RPI. Not even close. And Boyd made it known that the ISR was right and that the committee screwed the west coast again. That was the time frame and that was the commentary that got western folks all fired up against the RPI.

Fast forward to 2015, when there is a lot more regional play. Guess what? The RPI and ISR are very, very similar. The top 16 teams in the RPI are ALL in the top 18 of the ISR. The two systems agree completely on 7 of the 8 national seeds. The only national seed difference: the RPI has Florida, the ISR has Illinois.

So back in the day, Boyd blamed the RPI, when in reality the problem was a closed off west coast master schedule. As that has opened up, the ISR has morphed into RPI(b).

In summary, this debate is a mere shell of what it was ten years ago, because there just isn’t that much of a difference anymore.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

We didn't play a team that was on a historic pitching run. They played a team that was coached by Jim Morris.

Like I said it's pathological. You're diseased.

I mentioned how Texas Tech had an 0.80 ERA against teams not named Miami and your response for that?

It's Jim Morris' fault.

You need to seek help.

The other teams were Columbia and College of Charleston. Three awful hitting teams in a row.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The RPI has Gonzaga as a top 12 team. That makes perfect sense. The IRS has them in the 20's where they belong.

Those ratings aren't meaningful at this point in the season. Wait until about week 4 of conference play and then get back to me.

But for somebody who's so ignorant about this sport here's an education on the ISR and how it's basically RPI-lite nowadays. This is a good post from another Canes fan that explains why the ISR and RPI differed so great, say, a decade ago and why they're very similar today.

RPI vs ISR - Best Indicator of Quality and Performance? | D1Baseball.com

On selection day in 2004, the ISR thought there should have been 4 western national seeds and 7 western hosts. Is it possible that the west coast just had a great year? Of course. But the ISR looked absolutely nothing like the RPI. Not even close. And Boyd made it known that the ISR was right and that the committee screwed the west coast again. That was the time frame and that was the commentary that got western folks all fired up against the RPI.

Fast forward to 2015, when there is a lot more regional play. Guess what? The RPI and ISR are very, very similar. The top 16 teams in the RPI are ALL in the top 18 of the ISR. The two systems agree completely on 7 of the 8 national seeds. The only national seed difference: the RPI has Florida, the ISR has Illinois.

So back in the day, Boyd blamed the RPI, when in reality the problem was a closed off west coast master schedule. As that has opened up, the ISR has morphed into RPI(b).

In summary, this debate is a mere shell of what it was ten years ago, because there just isn’t that much of a difference anymore.

Whatever. Gonzaga isn't a top 10 team.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

The other teams were Columbia and College of Charleston. Three awful hitting teams in a row.

And TCU and Ole Miss.

Two College World Series teams.

So you're wrong again and still flailing.

Clown.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

The RPI has Gonzaga as a top 12 team. That makes perfect sense. The IRS has them in the 20's where they belong.

Those ratings aren't meaningful at this point in the season. Wait until about week 4 of conference play and then get back to me.

But for somebody who's so ignorant about this sport here's an education on the ISR and how it's basically RPI-lite nowadays. This is a good post from another Canes fan that explains why the ISR and RPI differed so great, say, a decade ago and why they're very similar today.

RPI vs ISR - Best Indicator of Quality and Performance? | D1Baseball.com

On selection day in 2004, the ISR thought there should have been 4 western national seeds and 7 western hosts. Is it possible that the west coast just had a great year? Of course. But the ISR looked absolutely nothing like the RPI. Not even close. And Boyd made it known that the ISR was right and that the committee screwed the west coast again. That was the time frame and that was the commentary that got western folks all fired up against the RPI.

Fast forward to 2015, when there is a lot more regional play. Guess what? The RPI and ISR are very, very similar. The top 16 teams in the RPI are ALL in the top 18 of the ISR. The two systems agree completely on 7 of the 8 national seeds. The only national seed difference: the RPI has Florida, the ISR has Illinois.

So back in the day, Boyd blamed the RPI, when in reality the problem was a closed off west coast master schedule. As that has opened up, the ISR has morphed into RPI(b).

In summary, this debate is a mere shell of what it was ten years ago, because there just isn’t that much of a difference anymore.

Whatever. Gonzaga isn't a top 10 team.

I know.

And they won't be.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The other teams were Columbia and College of Charleston. Three awful hitting teams in a row.

And TCU and Ole Miss.

Two College World Series teams.

So you're wrong again and still flailing.

Clown.

2 runs in 27 innings is okay because they also shut out Coastal Carolina. Makes sense.