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Asante Samuel

PAR said:
So Samuels is smaller, slower and lighter than those other guys you mentioned but since he can cover the slot (despite his many shortcomings) he's on their level? lol
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Samuels is a good player but the only top dog like superstars IMO are jobe hall and campbell
 

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tyrn said:
CFLCane said:
KrazyCane said:
CFLCane said:
supersaiyanshel said:
Almost all the dbs were taking are hybrids. Disagree 8 overall is overkill, especially given our depth issues at the position.
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You don't solve a depth issue but creating a future one. If you sign 8 DB's and likely only 1 of them redshirt you find yourself in a position where it's hard to recruit DB's in 2019 and potentially having a mass exodus in 3-4 years with kids graduating. We're not Bama yet, we need to build depth the right way to fix it not just recruit whoever will commit.
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How is loading up on elite DBs not "the right way" to fix our depth issues?? Josh Jobe is technically a 2019 commit and 1 or 2 more would obviously redshirt, issue resolved.
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Remember in 2007 when we took 7 WR's and then took 0 in 2008. Then we had Bosher our punter out playing WR? Overloading creates just as many problems as it solves.

*It spreads coaching thinner trying to coach up all those new guys at once.
*It increases chances of transfers and tarnishing reputations with the local HS you recruited from (wasted resources and schollies)
*It creates a 2019 DB recruiting problem (way harder to sell kids to commmit to an overloaded young roster)
* It creates a 2021/22 mass exodus problem if you aren't able to redshirt/retain/and recruit 2019 properly
* You can only put so many DB's on the field, we could use help at TE, OT, DT,RB much more than an 8th DB.

How the **** are you figuring Jobe a 2019 commit? Kids not even allowed to play HS because he's so old.
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Bosher never played WR...

Punter Brian Monroe did however, while Kyle Wright was our QB a year or 2 before the 2008 class (Shannon's first class) that was ranked #1 and had I believe 7 WRs in it.

So your post makes no sense.
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His post makes no sense because comparing WR to DB is a big mistake. There are twice as many DB positions as there are WR positions...unless you're running 4 wide every play, which we don't.

two safeties and 2 corners, with an additional nickel corner over 50% of the time. compared to 2 or 3 wrs. Its really not too great of a comparison.
Getting 7 (or 8 if one of the elite guys like Tyreke wants in) is no problem at all. It puts us in a position where we get about 2-4 DBs the next few years.
 
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Im in the 8 db crowd... Why? 1) DB has two positions, CB and S.... There are formations with 5 DBs at a time, basically this isn't a position that requires only couple players. 2) We have a solid competition at the DB position and let the top players rise and the not so hot transfer if they'd like. I don't care if it's a 3 star starting over blades etc, if they show and prove it in practice and game time so be it. 3) Alrdy been said, too much talent to pass up and prefer they be here than fsu, lsu, uf etc.
 
The rankings go like this:

At CB from best to worst:

Campbell
Ivey
Blades
Tyreke Johnson
Samuel
Jobe
Surtain
Hall
Frierson
Miguel Edwards
Troutman
Divaad Wilson
 
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calinative umstudent said:
tyrn said:
CFLCane said:
KrazyCane said:
CFLCane said:
You don't solve a depth issue but creating a future one. If you sign 8 DB's and likely only 1 of them redshirt you find yourself in a position where it's hard to recruit DB's in 2019 and potentially having a mass exodus in 3-4 years with kids graduating. We're not Bama yet, we need to build depth the right way to fix it not just recruit whoever will commit.
Click to expand...

How is loading up on elite DBs not "the right way" to fix our depth issues?? Josh Jobe is technically a 2019 commit and 1 or 2 more would obviously redshirt, issue resolved.
Click to expand...

Remember in 2007 when we took 7 WR's and then took 0 in 2008. Then we had Bosher our punter out playing WR? Overloading creates just as many problems as it solves.

*It spreads coaching thinner trying to coach up all those new guys at once.
*It increases chances of transfers and tarnishing reputations with the local HS you recruited from (wasted resources and schollies)
*It creates a 2019 DB recruiting problem (way harder to sell kids to commmit to an overloaded young roster)
* It creates a 2021/22 mass exodus problem if you aren't able to redshirt/retain/and recruit 2019 properly
* You can only put so many DB's on the field, we could use help at TE, OT, DT,RB much more than an 8th DB.

How the **** are you figuring Jobe a 2019 commit? Kids not even allowed to play HS because he's so old.
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Bosher never played WR...

Punter Brian Monroe did however, while Kyle Wright was our QB a year or 2 before the 2008 class (Shannon's first class) that was ranked #1 and had I believe 7 WRs in it.

So your post makes no sense.
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His post makes no sense because comparing WR to DB is a big mistake. There are twice as many DB positions as there are WR positions...unless you're running 4 wide every play, which we don't.

two safeties and 2 corners, with an additional nickel corner over 50% of the time. compared to 2 or 3 wrs. Its really not too great of a comparison.
Getting 7 (or 8 if one of the elite guys like Tyreke wants in) is no problem at all. It puts us in a position where we get about 2-4 DBs the next few years.
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Let's take 8 in 2018, then 2 in 2019 if you can even convince anyone to commit to that loaded roster. Than in 2020 after 2+ 2018 kids transfer you're back to ****** depth because you're 2018 overloaded class led to a small 2019 class and 25% of your 2018 class left.

You guys really need to stop smoking brick weed. There aint no way in **** you're going to add more than 2 big names like Tyreke, Cambell, and Samuel to the list below without people dropping. When you're done writing your wish list to santa and come back to reality let me know.

Russel
Garvin
Blades
Ivey
Jobe
Frierson
 
GoldCane said:
8 DB's is overkill. Take Blades and Campbell and close shop and get Dent back on board for 2019.
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I hate that old saying wait til next year. No one knows what happens next year. Dent can't sign an LOI for next year. It's not guaranteed. You take studs when you can and worry about next year, next year.
 
marshallrc13 said:
GoldCane said:
8 DB's is overkill. Take Blades and Campbell and close shop and get Dent back on board for 2019.
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I hate that old saying wait til next year. No one knows what happens next year. Dent can't sign an LOI for next year. It's not guaranteed. You take studs when you can and worry about next year, next year.
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7 DBs is plenty. No depth issues with 7 DBs. You create roster issues and recruiting difficulties when you overload a spot like that. 7 is plenty.
 
There is also a high likelihood that we'll see a few transfers out of Mayes, Jackson, and Henley at corner, and James and Knowles at safety. Richt is giving them every opportunity this spring to step up, but if they can't make the jump, I don't see all of them being back next year. With the talent in this class, taking 8 or even 9 makes sense, and then redshirt a one or two.
 
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brock said:
GoldCane said:
8 DB's is overkill. Take Blades and Campbell and close shop and get Dent back on board for 2019.
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Naw we got to rework the roster. If there ever was a year to overkill in recruiting dbs it's this one. 7-8 dbs in this class should be the expectation
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You never have too many good DBs or DTs. A flash form the past, once upon a time we have too many good dbs so Howard switched a kid name Brown to WR. Eddie did pretty good there. Ray was a safety. No bad either.
 
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