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Am I wrong in thinking, with the JUCO's that UM is tailing..

Maybe one reason for going after JUCOs is that it is clear what our specific needs are. Last year, we needed almost everything; this year we can pinpoint a few spots.
 
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IMO its significantly sanctions driven. With scholarships at a premium, you need to have more kids ready to play relative to learning their trade. Better to take a kid who can contribute for two years and free up a schollie when he's done, then a kid who will sit for two years before contributing.

Thats on top of the fact that our DL talent just isnt what it needs to be.
 
I think it goes further than that. Sanctions are going to hit, and it will be important for Miami to prove that they are still national players despite sanctions. They need that momentum to help sway kids in the future when they have limited schollies. Winning next year will help.
 
defense will be marketable better deon bush rayshawn jenkins, gunter, howard, carter burns. ej, dp, porter, bond, 17, muhamed, juco dts, more experience more talent more speed harder hits
 
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wushah said:
I think it goes further than that. Sanctions are going to hit, and it will be important for Miami to prove that they are still national players despite sanctions. They need that momentum to help sway kids in the future when they have limited schollies. Winning next year will help.
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This is an excellent point. We need to remind people what Miami's about, ASAP. Those great teams of ours are getting more and more distant. Make a splash and get people talking.
 
Whatever you may think, we'll all find out first-hand next season. I've learned not to get my hopes up. I wouldn't if I were you!
 
Miami is a national player RIGHT NOW with LOOMING sanctions and a ****** PREVIOUS TEN YEARS.

Our fanbase is pathetic.
 
You call the fanbase pathetic, and maybe you're right, but you show nothing that backs it up and nothing has been shown on the field that backs it up. It's all hope right now, and not one person can argue agains that. :)
 
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Ethnicsands said:
IMO its significantly sanctions driven. With scholarships at a premium, you need to have more kids ready to play relative to learning their trade. Better to take a kid who can contribute for two years and free up a schollie when he's done, then a kid who will sit for two years before contributing.

Thats on top of the fact that our DL talent just isnt what it needs to be.
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i think it has to do w/ being able to win now, not sanctions. think about it. IF we get hit w/ sanctions and a significant loss of ships over 3 years or so, you'd rather load up on kids now who can/will be here 4-5 years. load up on kids who will be here 2 years and once they are gone, you can't replace those ships b/c you have scholarship restrictions. so, in 2 years, w/ the jucos and other kids, you lose 25 to graduation and can only sign 12 (b/c of scholarship restrictions), how's that help?

this has to do w/ the staff thinking they can plug a few in now and win next year and the following year. signing up a bunch of jucos now doesn't help w/ scholarship restrictions. it will hurt bad in 2 year and there will be gaping holes. you'd want to load up on as many incoming freshman as possible right now to get thru the next 5 years.
and, it's not like we are trying to load up on 10 jucos. at best there will be 4 and more likely 3.
 
Scholie reductions can apply to the class total and the team total, and not necessarily uniformly. Depending on how many years you are docked scholarships, Jucos can help or hurt your total. We are probably looking at 3-4 years, and all of this years Jucos will be gone when we are still being docked in 2016/2017.
 
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right, my point was, the jucos that come in now, add to the group who will be leaving in 2 years, and not all those ships will be replaceable, depending on the sanctions.
i think this is a move (jucos) b/c the staff thinks we can win now. and i don't disagree. we have an offense capable of winning almost every game (just need a compliment to duke) and a horrendous defense. bringing 10 out of 11 starters back and a bunch more who started a few games, shore up the dline and add depth, and we could win the acc and be a bcs team next year.
 
Hegemon said:
Miami is a national player RIGHT NOW with LOOMING sanctions and a ****TY PREVIOUS TEN YEARS.

Our fanbase is pathetic.
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Tom,

Hang in there. Your faith shall be rewarded.

Others,

Act as ye have faith, and you shall be given faith.
 
wushah said:
I think it goes further than that. Sanctions are going to hit, and it will be important for Miami to prove that they are still national players despite sanctions. They need that momentum to help sway kids in the future when they have limited schollies. Winning next year will help.
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I keep hearing about these sanctions but have people forgotten that Miami has given up playing in 3 post season games? Sanctions have nothing to do with Golden taking some JUCO's to fill in immediate needs. Good coaches always want to win right now and if it means taking a JUCO to provide instant production then what the good coach will do. Just been stuck with such losers as HC's for so long the fans have forgotten what success looks like...
 
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Pretty sure he looked at what happened in 2012 and realized he needed some immediate help and needed some more grown men on the roster. He regularly lamented the fact that when we faced teams like KSU and ND, we were battling 22 year old men with a bunch of 18 year old kids.

He also stated regularly that he needs to improve the pass rush immediately, and that will very rarely happen by bringing in another 18 year old fresh out of HS. He's pinning a lot of his hopes on Bond to fix that glaring weakness, and he's going to plug him in right away to do just that. You saw what happened when we tried to do that with a couple of really talented but very young true freshmans last year. McCord will eventually be a great pass rusher, but he wasn't as a freshmans, and Alshermond didn't want another repeat of that.

I don't think he thinks we're competing for anything other than an ACC title next year.
 
like i said, i think we are competing for an acc title and a bcs bowl. i think if he makes the right choices and his juco plays pan out, it's reasonable.
 
5XNC said:
like i said, i think we are competing for an acc title and a bcs bowl. i think if he makes the right choices and his juco plays pan out, it's reasonable.
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Completely reasonable. I honestly don't see anyone in the Coastal putting up a big fight next year. A few impact dline will really change the defense.
 
[]_[]Fan2010;1186665 said:
5XNC said:
like i said, i think we are competing for an acc title and a bcs bowl. i think if he makes the right choices and his juco plays pan out, it's reasonable.
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Completely reasonable. I honestly don't see anyone in the Coastal putting up a big fight next year. A few impact dline will really change the defense.
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It will change the defense on the surface, but depth will still suck. Injuries happen. 10 wins with this DL depth? not a chance.
 
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