Alin Edouard got his offer

[CaymanCane]

This isn't the NFL, its NCAA Division 1 football, and this is the system that wins in college football. I don't care what Newton has done in the NFL, he single handedly won Auburn a national title. RG3 single handedly made Baylor football relevant again. We need this kid, he's a stud and a leader.

 

[CaneBoss]

The game is changing. Simple as that. The whole "Pro-Style QB's" argument is outdated and irrelevant.

Who were those dual threat qb's for Bama, LSU, USC and Miami again? And in the NFL it is a different story, but to those saying that Brees and Rodgers do not play a pro style offense, look again. Now the passing game has changed, thanks to all the rule changes, where you are seeing 3 wides, and 4 wides and 5 wides, which have always existed, but the base of an offense and of all winning offenses is the traditional pro style offense, due to the fact that defenses are too sophisticated and fast to leave your QB all alone with no threat of running the ball thus making the play action useless.

As for Newton, again how many games has Carolina won, not to mention this year he was very mediocre. RG3 I really, like, but that is unlike Newton, RG3 has brains and can actually run multiple offensive sets unlike Newton, as evident by his remarkable td to int ratio in a rookie year. But the question still remains how long he can sustain that dual role, NFL QB's cannot survive long term with that kind of pounding.

Now all this is moot, college is a different game than the NFL, it's why you can win with qb's that throw floaters, qb's that really are not qb's, or dual threat qb's. But one thing for sure, in college, I would rather take a qb with brains than any dual threat, electrifying qb any day. Those guys win more than the other. History has shown that.

So Alin, though nice to see that he has an offer, and physically has great tools, and from a recruiting standpoint looks to be a pied piper so to speak, if the kid does not have the mental aptitude for the position then pass, if he does then great.

I might not be following here, but where is the evidence that shows dual threat QBs do not have "brains"? Seems like a very baseless arguement.

Since you use Cam Newton as an example; He might not be a top 10 QB and not have "brains" according to you, but he is sure as *** a lot better then at least half the quarterbacks in the league, the majority of whcih are "pure" pocket passers.

 

[PUNCICANE]

with getting Olsen this year we can take a chance with kids like Edouard. We have our Pro Style QB and if a dual threat like him doesnt seem to work out at QB, he's still a legit athlete that we can put at db or wr

 

[The Franchise]

The game is changing. Simple as that. The whole "Pro-Style QB's" argument is outdated and irrelevant.

Who were those dual threat qb's for Bama, LSU, USC and Miami again? And in the NFL it is a different story, but to those saying that Brees and Rodgers do not play a pro style offense, look again. Now the passing game has changed, thanks to all the rule changes, where you are seeing 3 wides, and 4 wides and 5 wides, which have always existed, but the base of an offense and of all winning offenses is the traditional pro style offense, due to the fact that defenses are too sophisticated and fast to leave your QB all alone with no threat of running the ball thus making the play action useless.

As for Newton, again how many games has Carolina won, not to mention this year he was very mediocre. RG3 I really, like, but that is unlike Newton, RG3 has brains and can actually run multiple offensive sets unlike Newton, as evident by his remarkable td to int ratio in a rookie year. But the question still remains how long he can sustain that dual role, NFL QB's cannot survive long term with that kind of pounding.

Now all this is moot, college is a different game than the NFL, it's why you can win with qb's that throw floaters, qb's that really are not qb's, or dual threat qb's. But one thing for sure, in college, I would rather take a qb with brains than any dual threat, electrifying qb any day. Those guys win more than the other. History has shown that.

So Alin, though nice to see that he has an offer, and physically has great tools, and from a recruiting standpoint looks to be a pied piper so to speak, if the kid does not have the mental aptitude for the position then pass, if he does then great.

Why would you think that Edouard might not have the 'brains' or 'mental aptitude' for the position?

He's clearly not a heady QB.

 

[kev13108]

I've been dying for us to offer this kid!! It's about time lol!! This guys is a beast and I can't wait for him to commit!

 

[The Franchise]

Wait, are people really bashing him because he isn't commiting the day he gets the offer?

I'm not bashing. but wasn't it he who said he would commit on the spot if offered?

That was before he got the offer. As soon as you get the offer after campaigning so hard and putting on such a great public display of love for UM you are required to treat it as a "business decision".

 

[Fzac75]

The game is changing. Simple as that. The whole "Pro-Style QB's" argument is outdated and irrelevant.

Who were those dual threat qb's for Bama, LSU, USC and Miami again? And in the NFL it is a different story, but to those saying that Brees and Rodgers do not play a pro style offense, look again. Now the passing game has changed, thanks to all the rule changes, where you are seeing 3 wides, and 4 wides and 5 wides, which have always existed, but the base of an offense and of all winning offenses is the traditional pro style offense, due to the fact that defenses are too sophisticated and fast to leave your QB all alone with no threat of running the ball thus making the play action useless.

As for Newton, again how many games has Carolina won, not to mention this year he was very mediocre. RG3 I really, like, but that is unlike Newton, RG3 has brains and can actually run multiple offensive sets unlike Newton, as evident by his remarkable td to int ratio in a rookie year. But the question still remains how long he can sustain that dual role, NFL QB's cannot survive long term with that kind of pounding.

Now all this is moot, college is a different game than the NFL, it's why you can win with qb's that throw floaters, qb's that really are not qb's, or dual threat qb's. But one thing for sure, in college, I would rather take a qb with brains than any dual threat, electrifying qb any day. Those guys win more than the other. History has shown that.

So Alin, though nice to see that he has an offer, and physically has great tools, and from a recruiting standpoint looks to be a pied piper so to speak, if the kid does not have the mental aptitude for the position then pass, if he does then great.

Why would you think that Edouard might not have the 'brains' or 'mental aptitude' for the position?

I don't think that he does or does not, that's why I ended it with if he doesn't then lets pass, if does then great. Those measurables in a qb none of us here can see, that is up to the coaches. But it's this obsessive love affair I have seen with people lately with qb's like a Tebow and Cam Newton, where the flash is covering up the substance. And as I stated earlier, in college you can get away with it, but not in the pros. And yes he led Auburn to the title, but don't forget, that those Florida and Auburn teams had a top 5 defense those years. Last I checked that BCS title game against Oregon was a slugfest and not a shootout. And go back to when Oklahoma won the title (should've been us) to now and the majority of the championship team's qb's were not dual threats.

And continuing to be completely off target, but half the qb's in the nfl don't have the brains to be top flight qb's. It is what separates the good from the mediocre, it's not the physical but what is in between the ears that sets them apart. And that is all, will not get into another argument of how Newton is not a stud or a beast, and what it takes to be a successful NFL qb, especially on this board or thread.

 

[AllbouttheU]

Just want to start off saying that I dont watch film of recruits and I don't know if this kid is a athlete who happens to be able to throw or is an athletic QB. But, the possibility of having a spead/ dual threat QB isn't exciting to me. UM has always ran a pro style offense, regardless of the HC/ OC. I hope we aren't getting away from that. I would rather get another Kevin Olsen type QB, pocket passer.

With all that being said... In Golden I Trust.

Times change, you put the ball in the best players hand. If that's a dual threat QB then so be it, if he becomes a winner that's all that matters.

 

[jerzeycane]

The game is changing. Simple as that. The whole "Pro-Style QB's" argument is outdated and irrelevant.

Who were those dual threat qb's for Bama, LSU, USC and Miami again? And in the NFL it is a different story, but to those saying that Brees and Rodgers do not play a pro style offense, look again. Now the passing game has changed, thanks to all the rule changes, where you are seeing 3 wides, and 4 wides and 5 wides, which have always existed, but the base of an offense and of all winning offenses is the traditional pro style offense, due to the fact that defenses are too sophisticated and fast to leave your QB all alone with no threat of running the ball thus making the play action useless.

As for Newton, again how many games has Carolina won, not to mention this year he was very mediocre. RG3 I really, like, but that is unlike Newton, RG3 has brains and can actually run multiple offensive sets unlike Newton, as evident by his remarkable td to int ratio in a rookie year. But the question still remains how long he can sustain that dual role, NFL QB's cannot survive long term with that kind of pounding.

Now all this is moot, college is a different game than the NFL, it's why you can win with qb's that throw floaters, qb's that really are not qb's, or dual threat qb's. But one thing for sure, in college, I would rather take a qb with brains than any dual threat, electrifying qb any day. Those guys win more than the other. History has shown that.

So Alin, though nice to see that he has an offer, and physically has great tools, and from a recruiting standpoint looks to be a pied piper so to speak, if the kid does not have the mental aptitude for the position then pass, if he does then great.

Why would you think that Edouard might not have the 'brains' or 'mental aptitude' for the position?

I don't think that he does or does not, that's why I ended it with if he doesn't then lets pass, if does then great. Those measurables in a qb none of us here can see, that is up to the coaches. But it's this obsessive love affair I have seen with people lately with qb's like a Tebow and Cam Newton, where the flash is covering up the substance. And as I stated earlier, in college you can get away with it, but not in the pros. And yes he led Auburn to the title, but don't forget, that those Florida and Auburn teams had a top 5 defense those years. Last I checked that BCS title game against Oregon was a slugfest and not a shootout. And go back to when Oklahoma won the title (should've been us) to now and the majority of the championship team's qb's were not dual threats.

And continuing to be completely off target, but half the qb's in the nfl don't have the brains to be top flight qb's. It is what separates the good from the mediocre, it's not the physical but what is in between the ears that sets them apart. And that is all, will not get into another argument of how Newton is not a stud or a beast, and what it takes to be a successful NFL qb, especially on this board or thread.

Hol'up are you saying that with Dual Threat QB's you need a great defense, but with Pro-Style QB's you don't? Seems to be what you're implying when you specifically point out the fact that Florida and Auburn had great defenses (which as a matter of fact is completely incorrect and off base concerning Auburn who was #60 in Total Defense, but that's neither here nor there). That is COMPLETELY besides the point. Dual Threat QB's aren't a symbol of poor defense anymore than a Pro-Style QB is a symbol of great defense. That claim is preposterous. Dual Threat QB's can be successful not only in the NFL, but where it's most important to us, COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Bama's got 5 losses over the last 3 years. THREE of those losses came to dual threat QB's (Manziel, Jefferson, and Cam Newton), with a fourth being a run option for his team in Stephen Garcia. Stop it. The game has changed. Get with it or get lost.

Just FYI, as painful as it is to bring up...The University of Miami had a Pro-Style QB and lost to a Dual-Threat QB in the National Championship.

 

[LuCane]

This is my dude. I've gushed about him since his highlights first went up. I think his potential is better than Teddy Bridgewater.

Wow, that's a heckuva endorsement. I like the kid a ton but this is going to prompt another viewing of the clips.

Doubt you'll see more than what you already saw, but when I watch him, I think of what can be done with his skillset and that foundation (feet, release, arm strength, speed). A creative O-Coordinator's dream. He's like that 6' 7" Small Forward with crazy athleticism and good form on his shot (basketball player), but has no real idea "when" to shoot, "where" to get to spots on the floor, and "why" it's important for him to pick his spots. So, he shoots 38% from the floor.

Maybe that's why some opinions of Edouard are that he is scattered and inconsistent.

Granted, I don't know **** about this guy's mental side. I'd love to sit and watch a game with him. See how he sees what's going on out there. What little things he notices.

 

[jerzeycane]

This is my dude. I've gushed about him since his highlights first went up. I think his potential is better than Teddy Bridgewater.

Wow, that's a heckuva endorsement. I like the kid a ton but this is going to prompt another viewing of the clips.

Doubt you'll see more than what you already saw, but when I watch him, I think of what can be done with his skillset and that foundation (feet, release, arm strength, speed). A creative O-Coordinator's dream. He's like that 6' 7" Small Forward with crazy athleticism and good form on his shot (basketball player), but has no real idea "when" to shoot, "where" to get to spots on the floor, and "why" it's important for him to pick his spots. So, he shoots 38% from the floor.

Maybe that's why some opinions of Edouard are that he is scattered and inconsistent.

Granted, I don't know **** about this guy's mental side. I'd love to sit and watch a game with him. See how he sees what's going on out there. What little things he notices.

The Paul George of QB's? lol

 

[LuCane]

This is my dude. I've gushed about him since his highlights first went up. I think his potential is better than Teddy Bridgewater.

Wow, that's a heckuva endorsement. I like the kid a ton but this is going to prompt another viewing of the clips.

Doubt you'll see more than what you already saw, but when I watch him, I think of what can be done with his skillset and that foundation (feet, release, arm strength, speed). A creative O-Coordinator's dream. He's like that 6' 7" Small Forward with crazy athleticism and good form on his shot (basketball player), but has no real idea "when" to shoot, "where" to get to spots on the floor, and "why" it's important for him to pick his spots. So, he shoots 38% from the floor.

Maybe that's why some opinions of Edouard are that he is scattered and inconsistent.

Granted, I don't know **** about this guy's mental side. I'd love to sit and watch a game with him. See how he sees what's going on out there. What little things he notices.

The Paul George of QB's? lol

Ha. That's a pretty good comparison. Let's hope Edouard puts it together at a quicker pace.

 

[WhatTheHell]

How come anytime a spread style QB is mentioned with our program, it seems a group of fans that are 90 years old crawl out? I'd expect this **** from Notre Dame old timers or something, but I always laugh when posters are shaking their fists like "that dadgum new fangled spread offense with the ***** qb will never work!!!!! bah!!!"

Game's changing. Miami has always been trendsetters of football. We are known for our speed, quick-scoring ability, playmaking, excitement - we should be embracing the spread. Especially when you consider the type of QB traditionally found down here.

Put your ******* leather helmets down and embrace the kind of ridiculous offense Miami can run with the added dimension of a mobile Qb.

 

[01rodric]

Will take NOW.

 

[CanesAreAble]

His tape looks good. The two questions I have:

1. Does he love the game?

2. Is he accurate?


If he loves the game, he'll put in the work to study film and get better. If he's accurate, he can make the play when it's there.

 

[TheU1991]

i'm not one of those guys, but SOTU mentioned him in a tweet and i checked out his twitter profile...

ol' boy is all Canes

hopefully we found our Duke Johnson of the '14 class

 

[TheU1991]

@ALLEN_EDWARD2
S/O TO THAT @CL1_Era FOR GETTING THAT MIAMI OFFER ... []_[] .. DONT WORRY BRA .. IM ON MY WAYY TOO ..

 

[JHallCanes]

How come anytime a spread style QB is mentioned with our program, it seems a group of fans that are 90 years old crawl out? I'd expect this **** from Notre Dame old timers or something, but I always laugh when posters are shaking their fists like "that dadgum new fangled spread offense with the ***** qb will never work!!!!! bah!!!"

Game's changing. Miami has always been trendsetters of football. We are known for our speed, quick-scoring ability, playmaking, excitement - we should be embracing the spread. Especially when you consider the type of QB traditionally found down here.

Put your ******* leather helmets down and embrace the kind of ridiculous offense Miami can run with the added dimension of a mobile Qb.

Its not even just that the "game is changing".

These days you see more and more guys with versatility. You don't ever have to pigeon-hole yourselves anymore into being a spread team, a pro style them, anything.

Maybe if you have a specific system it benefits you keep that in place but in Florida, you have athletes. College football roster turnover is so heavy you have to be able to adapt your system to fit your recruiting classes unless you can go out there and get whoever you want.

This spread vs. pro style debate is ******* stupid.

 

[CanesAreAble]

This spread vs. pro style debate is ******* stupid.

Old conventions die hard.

When people see scrambling QBs, they still think of Turner Gill, Major Harris, Tommie Frazier, etc...

The QB position is naturally more athletic nowadays.

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Basically what we need to do is run the same offense as the Packers, but run the ball more effectively. Their "pro-style" offense covers everything from five wide to three TE with a FB and RB.

The standard pro-style is basically an anomaly at this point. The pro-style is more or less limited to formations now-a-days instead of an entire offense. Obviously there are exceptions, but they are just that, the exception, rather than the trend.