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ACC Bowl Record 1-9

redcane said:
Admittedly, I'm pretty down on program and administration currently, but I Don't believe we are very attractive to B1G or SEC. We will probably end up in Big 12 with UCF as our new rival.
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I gave up hope on the B!G. If we end up in the Big 12, I think that will be the final nail in our coffin.

Speaking of the Big 12 and ACC, has anyone noticed that the SEC and B!G has 24 projected teams dancing in March.

Notice how last season the Big East only got three in. All three made the elite eight, UCONN won it all. They jobbed a few deserving teams to let **** MWC teams in.

The Big 12 was considered to be the top basketball conference in America with the ACC and Big East. Not any more....

A lot of this is done by design.
 
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The ACC being horrible is nothing new but the idea that Miami would just get rolled every week in the SEC or Big10 is stupid.

Indiana made the CFP out of the Big 10. They played one ranked opponent all season and got blown out.

Penn State played two ranked teams. They beat Illinois (obvious powerhouse program) and lost to Ohio State.

Texas made the CFP out of the SEC. They played one ranked opponent during the regular season and that same team again in the SEC championship game. They lost both and are now in the final four.

Much like bowl games, a lot of these conference schedules are just luck of the draw. The conferences are very top heavy and nobody had to play all the best teams. Maybe the closest anyone in the SEC came to playing all the top teams was Florida who went 4-4 in conference but was not exactly what I’d call a good team.
 
It does look terrible for the ACC in football this year. Basketball were very strong overall and certainly in the past.

Besides the SEC and really Bama. The ACC has the second most National Championships since 2010. I think the big 10 is 1 less, so the conference has something.

And on that note. If the conference builds, and plays out like it should....we have an SMU and Miami improving, FSU will figure their ish out and Clemson is still almost Elite.

And ND should be in our conference when TV money is renegotiated.

It certainly is embarrassing this year, but I see it as something that will improve.
 
ALLoverCANE said:
What makes you think we would run away in the 2nd half? We were up 3 lol. We were up 7 at Cuse at the half and lost.

During the regular season, the ACC was 9-17 vs P4 teams, by far the worst mark of any P4 conference. The SEC had the best record at 13-7.

By every metric, the ACC is awful.
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Because we were the bigger and stronger team. It is the long known wear em down effect. Even without Cam, we ran it right down the field to start the second half. It was only when they found out that we couldn’t throw at all that things changed. Watching Emory really brought home just how great Cam was this year. I had zero doubt that Cam was going to pull us away.

Anyone that thinks Cam isn’t way more than two points above replacement is crazy.

Anyone that thinks that Cam would have scored 10 points in the second half like we did without him is crazy.

All the above is why Emory next year can’t be a serious option.
 
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IbzRlz said:
For those out there who think we should leave the ACC for the BIG10, have you looked at the ACC's Bowl Record? 1 win and 9 LOSSES. If we can't even make the ACCCG with a generational QB how in the world would we be competitive in the BIG10? I get the extra TV revenue, but playing November road games in front of 100,000 fans in Columbus, Ann Arbor, State College along with Madison, East Lansing, Iowa City, etc would be an absolute embarrassment...of course we're used to that but
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Bowl records are more meaningless than ever with opt outs.
 
JayCane20 said:
Worst of the P4 conferences, by a wide gap, and I’d probably throw it behind the American too if I’m being 100% honest with you.

Still can’t win it with the best player in America.
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Nope. Miami would have beaten Iowa State by Double digits if Cam played.

Miami
Clemson
SMU
Syracuse
Louisville
GT
Duke

Id take that over Big 12.

Even if you think Big 12 was better, it certainly wasnt by a wide gap.

-Clemson over Arizona State
-Miami over Iowa State
-BYU over SMU
-Syracuse and Colorado would be shootout
-Lousiville and Kansas State slight nod to Louisville
-GT and Baylor?
-Duke and Texas Tech?
I mean they are pretty friggin close going down the board to me when ACC had their QBs and best weapons playing
 
gacaneaddict said:
-Clemson over Arizona State
-Miami over Iowa State
-BYU over SMU
-Syracuse and Colorado would be shootout
-Lousiville and Kansas State slight nod to Louisville
-GT and Baylor?
-Duke and Texas Tech?
I mean they are pretty friggin close going down the board to me when ACC had their QBs and best weapons playing
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I mean.. sounds great and I’d agree on paper but on the field it’s not really a debate.

Clemson over ASU this year in what universe? ASU should be in the final 4 if they got a text book targeting call that essentially came down to a “we didn’t call it because it would have changed the game” scenario. Against the same team that beat Clemson by 2 TDs a week prior.

Iowa State beat Miami. With or without Cam, doesn’t matter. Even if Miami won that game.. BYU beat SMU on the field. It’s comparable at the top but the Big12 is undeniably a deeper conference. Utah is typically very good. Arizona was a top 15 team last year and had a down year with a new coach. Oklahoma State has one of the best HCs in college football (fading? Probably). Kansas was one of the better teams to end the season. TCU was in the NCG a few years ago. The coaching and schemes in the Big12 are so far advanced compared to the ACC

The top 6-7 teams, perfectly comparable. The bottom of each conference is completely different
 
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JTKoval said:
Because we were the bigger and stronger team. It is the long known wear em down effect. Even without Cam, we ran it right down the field to start the second half. It was only when they found out that we couldn’t throw at all that things changed. Watching Emory really brought home just how great Cam was this year. I had zero doubt that Cam was going to pull us away.

Anyone that thinks Cam isn’t way more than two points above replacement is crazy.

Anyone that thinks that Cam would have scored 10 points in the second half like we did without him is crazy.

All the above is why Emory next year can’t be a serious option.
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You don't think we were bigger and stronger than Syracuse? LOL.

We may or may not have won the game. Even if we kept scoring at will, they did, too. It's possible that Cam also commits a terrible turnover like he did vs GT. There's no reason to be confident in a win.

We absolutely cannot have Emory start next year.
 
Cribby said:
“ Unless the Sec loses” . Then around here they start mattering.
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Just depends on opt outs. Sure Alabama losing with all their starters players matters more than Miami without their top 4 WR’s & Heisman candidate QB.

Context should matter. Plus, yeah, F the SEC
 
Stop trying to read so much into bowl games.

Some of you are truly obsessed with creating narratives.
 
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gacaneaddict said:
Nope. Miami would have beaten Iowa State by Double digits if Cam played.

Miami
Clemson
SMU
Syracuse
Louisville
GT
Duke

Id take that over Big 12.

Even if you think Big 12 was better, it certainly wasnt by a wide gap.

-Clemson over Arizona State
-Miami over Iowa State
-BYU over SMU
-Syracuse and Colorado would be shootout
-Lousiville and Kansas State slight nod to Louisville
-GT and Baylor?
-Duke and Texas Tech?
I mean they are pretty friggin close going down the board to me when ACC had their QBs and best weapons playing
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ASU looked much better vs Texas than Clemson did. And we were only up 3 vs Iowa St at the half, even with Ward, and with 1 more possession (since we won the opening kick).

Big 12 went 7-10 vs P4 and ACC went 9-17 (excluding bowl games).

The ACC is awful
 
JTKoval said:
Current state of bowl games reveals very little.

Regular season out of conference record more accurate.

We were an example. Cam plays second half and we run away with a big pop tart. He doesn’t and we don’t.

We have come so far from when Christian McCaffrey opted out and it was the sin of the century and all the talk of the NFL taking a negative view of him. Now, it is expected of all NFL talent.
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Why did it take 16 posts before this one to say the obvious?
Bowl season is an absolute waste of time. Between transfers and opt out non-playoff bowl games are and will continue to tell us nothing.
People that put stock in the conference bowl championship just don’t get it.

Bowl season is broken and cfb will continue to be the best regular season is sports with the worst post season in sports. I don’t have great suggestions for fixing it. But 1-9? Who gives a ****!
 
DTP said:
The ACC being horrible is nothing new but the idea that Miami would just get rolled every week in the SEC or Big10 is stupid.

Indiana made the CFP out of the Big 10. They played one ranked opponent all season and got blown out.

Penn State played two ranked teams. They beat Illinois (obvious powerhouse program) and lost to Ohio State.

Texas made the CFP out of the SEC. They played one ranked opponent during the regular season and that same team again in the SEC championship game. They lost both and are now in the final four.

Much like bowl games, a lot of these conference schedules are just luck of the draw. The conferences are very top heavy and nobody had to play all the best teams. Maybe the closest anyone in the SEC came to playing all the top teams was Florida who went 4-4 in conference but was not exactly what I’d call a good team.
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But those teams BEAT the teams they were supposed to beat. We were supposed to beat GT and Syracuse and lost to both, which happens every year here.
 
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