A View From The Other Side

[passitback]

Been to Swamp many times and it can be a VERY HOSTILE PLACE TO PLAY.

 

[DTP]

The only reason Miami isn’t a double digit favorite is because this game is in Gainesville. Of course their fans are clinging to the idea that the swamp is this impossible place to win because that’s literally all they have.

 

[canecrazy23]

Well as a UF fan I’m sure you have

 

[Jassid82]

They finished the season on a 5 game losing streak that included 3 L’s at home. I’m feeling pretty solid, I don’t think they got better this off season

Very underrated post. This should have 20+ likes. I don’t want to hear any “Well, it is in the Swamp and we know that is a tough place to play!” BS intangible nonsense. PLENTY of teams the last few years have won handily in the Swamp. We should be added to the list soon. That mystique is gone. Long gone.

 

[San Amaro Dr]

If you're trying to make a case for Florida to win this is a terrible attempt.

-Swamp is hard to play in
-Gators have won big home matchups in the past
-Miami had a bad record the past two years
-SEC is different

Hitting on all the hopium intangibles.

You don't just walk into the swamp....

 

[Chris91]

The only reason Miami isn’t a double digit favorite is because this game is in Gainesville. Of course their fans are clinging to the idea that the swamp is this impossible place to win because that’s literally all they have.

Yep. Heard this exact same “swamp” blah, blah, blah BS before and I enjoyed watching their fans filing out of their stadium at the beginning of the 4th quarter. They are the most arrogant fan base I’ve encountered at an away game. They really do think they are academically and athletically superior to everyone else. I’ll take over/under bets now at how many times I’ll hear their fans say to me “You’re a Miami fan, but you didn’t actually go to school there.” o/u @ 5.

Get up on them early, don’t let off the gas, expand our lead and watch them leave their stadium early again.

 

[Morey161]

They talk about the Swamp like you just can't compete in there. They haven't played the best teams in there

2023

McNeese St. 49-7(W)
#11 Tennessee 29-16(W) Tennessee only beat a ranked Iowa team in the bowl game
Charlotte 22-7 (W)
Vandy 38-14(W)
Arkansas 36-39 OT (L)
FSU without Travis 15-24(L)

2022

#7 Utah 29-26 (W)
Kentucky 16-26 (L)
USF 31-28 (W) 1-11 record
Eastern Washington 52-17 (W
Missouri 24-17 (W)
LSU 35-45 (L)
South Carolina 38-6 (W)

 

[Damiencane86]

The only reason Miami isn’t a double digit favorite is because this game is in Gainesville. Of course their fans are clinging to the idea that the swamp is this impossible place to win because that’s literally all they have.

I can imagine an environment like theirs leading to a couple extra procedural penalties and at worst a turnover but that's about it. Ultimately coaches + players determine games and any deterrent from that is pure cope.

 

[NJshoreCane]

I think we go in and get the win for sure but something I recently heard (didn’t have any luck finding it easily) is that UF has some ridiculously long home opener winning streak. Something like 27 years. Does anyone know if that’s true? I’m sure a ton of them are to ****** teams. Regardless we win

They lost to Ole **** in '89.
Then played non P5 opponents the next 27 years. All W's against some pretty bad teams.
Since then, Tennessee 2017 (W), USCe 2020 (W), and Utah 2022 (W).

 

[ScubaCane]

If Miami gets consistent pressure with front 4, the gata can’t win. If Miami can’t, then stuff like turnover battle, penalties, field position, etc will matter a lot more.

I've watched condensed versions of several of their games last year, most of their passing game is quick release stuff, #3 for them is very good with the ball in his hands. I don't expect them to 7 step drop Mertz much in this game

 

[canecountry3]

I've watched condensed versions of several of their games last year, most of their passing game is quick release stuff, #3 for them is very good with the ball in his hands. I don't expect them to 7 step drop Mertz much in this game

This is why I think Miami wins. They have to dink and dunk to keep their offense on schedule. They literally are what everyone says Cristobal wants to be. 10-15 play scoring drives.

Points Per Play
Miami: 32
UFag: 68

Yards Per Point
Miami: 50
UFag: 80

Yards Per Play
Miami: 25
UFag: 51

Yards Per Completion
Miami: 70
UFag: 108

This year, same play callers. One team improved its talent and depth at QB, WR, and RB. The other didn't.

 

[L A M P]

I've watched condensed versions of several of their games last year, most of their passing game is quick release stuff, #3 for them is very good with the ball in his hands. I don't expect them to 7 step drop Mertz much in this game

If Miami controls the LOS with 4, Gata won't have the numbers to dink & dunk successfully. At some point, they must stretch the field (or really establish the run). Caveman offense doesn't work when you get whipped uprfront.

 

[Fightinibis]

I think the point is this group hasn't played a real game together.

New QB, center (line calls), RB (pass pro checks) etc. On defense the DB's haven't played together.

Comms typically fall apart in noise for the OL/RB in protection, and the back 5 in coverage.

You can't simulate 90K fans in Week One on the road vs a rival. Impossible in the IPF or anywhere.

That’s the reality.

We all want this thing to click and explode right from the get go…but that almost never happens. Best case scenario IMHO is a first half of jitters, some rust and lack of game day experience together…then a more cohesive 2nd half leading to a win closer than we would like…

UM

 

[hurricaneman]

I've watched condensed versions of several of their games last year, most of their passing game is quick release stuff, #3 for them is very good with the ball in his hands. I don't expect them to 7 step drop Mertz much in this game

Pearsall was the engine behind a lot of that offenses punch. And if Montrell is out as well it's going to be tough for them.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Been to Swamp many times and it can be a VERY HOSTILE PLACE TO PLAY.

Might have an impact if it were a night game. Just another road game.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Ward played at Oregon and at Washington (so also a rivalry game) last year. I have no doubt both those games were relatively similar environments to what he'll experience @ UF. Sure west coast teams aren't typically the best supporters of football like the SEC teams may be, but I'm pretty sure Washington and Oregon's stadiums are two of the loudest in the country due to design - especially on a per capita/seat basis. Maybe not quite as "hostile", and I'm sure those fans didn't view Washington St as a very big deal so maybe weren't being their loudest/craziest... but I'd wager it was at least 90-95% of whatever we will experience @ UF.

Washington is every bit as loud as anything in the SEC and that crowd was juiced because it was a must win game against it's rival. Plus, Washington was as good as anything the SEC could field last year.

 

[Canesfan1899]

They do have an advantage with their wr’s vs our secondary, I believe our DL can neutralize that advantage. Game, set, match

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

Pearsall was the engine behind a lot of that offenses punch. And if Montrell is out as well it's going to be tough for them.

Etienne made explosive plays in the run game for them as well. I

 

[JayCane20]

They talk about the Swamp like you just can't compete in there. They haven't played the best teams in there

2023

McNeese St. 49-7(W)
#11 Tennessee 29-16(W) Tennessee only beat a ranked Iowa team in the bowl game
Charlotte 22-7 (W)
Vandy 38-14(W)
Arkansas 36-39 OT (L)
FSU without Travis 15-24(L)

2022

#7 Utah 29-26 (W)
Kentucky 16-26 (L)
USF 31-28 (W) 1-11 record
Eastern Washington 52-17 (W
Missouri 24-17 (W)
LSU 35-45 (L)
South Carolina 38-6 (W)

So they're 9-4 in the swamp under Napier. Pull out FCS and G5 and they are 5-4. Pull out Vanderbilt and they are 4-4.

End of discussion.

I will acknowledge it seems they are better in the home opener than the rest of the year for whatever reason. But overall, there is no evidence of any advantage they have at home that shouldn't be able to be overcome if we are what we say we are and they are what we say they are (both of which are exaggerated on here, fwiw)

 

[CreamCityCane]

Ward played at Oregon and at Washington (so also a rivalry game) last year. I have no doubt both those games were relatively similar environments to what he'll experience @ UF. Sure west coast teams aren't typically the best supporters of football like the SEC teams may be, but I'm pretty sure Washington and Oregon's stadiums are two of the loudest in the country due to design - especially on a per capita/seat basis. Maybe not quite as "hostile", and I'm sure those fans didn't view Washington St as a very big deal so maybe weren't being their loudest/craziest... but I'd wager it was at least 90-95% of whatever we will experience @ UF.

Cam Ward beat Graham Mertz and the Badgers in Camp Randall when Jim Leonhard was DC in 2022. He didn't light them up, but it was only his second game at the P5 level against one of the best in the business.