8/9/13 Depth Chart

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Jamal Carter should be able to beat out anybody not named Bush or Jenkins we have at safety
 
Jamal Carter should be able to beat out anybody not named Bush or Jenkins we have at safety

I think the coaches are challenging Jamal Carter and Jermaine Grace to make sure they understand the playbook before they get on the depth chart... and once Jamal Carter starts to get the mental side, it's a wrap for Highsmith.
 
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I dont think many of the people in this thread understand what the term "JAG" means.

JAG=Just Another Guy

Shayon Green is the ultimate JAG. Unfortunately, many of the upperclassmen on our roster would be lucky to be given the term JAG.
 
The chart lists Lewis as a Sophomore when he earned a medical redshirt. He's got four more years.

Also, as good as Coley is, I'd love to see Burns returning, has great vision, super quick, great movement. I honestly think he would be a better option than Dorsett. Dorsett is faster, but vision is lacking.
 
Hopefully this means that when Chick comes back he will supplant Shayon and we can have the best four DL on the field.

That's not how this defense is built and I don't think that's what that depth chart indicates. I think it's pretty clear they're building specific roles for a broader plan. We may not now or ever be a 3-4 defense, but there are a good amount of examples in there that signal we will have some clear elements of that framework.

The most important takeaway from that depth chart is that we're going to throw a lot of different looks out there. I'm not saying that's necessarily good or bad with a defense that hasn't shown to be successful, but it's what it looks like we're doing.
 
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The chart lists Lewis as a Sophomore when he earned a medical redshirt. He's got four more years.

Also, as good as Coley is, I'd love to see Burns returning, has great vision, super quick, great movement. I honestly think he would be a better option than Dorsett. Dorsett is faster, but vision is lacking.
This has been discussed many, many times. He can't or won't apply for a medical redshirt until after his senior season. So he is a sophomore at the moment.
 
It gives us something to talk about but in terms of an actual depth chart that might mean something, well wake me up in three weeks. This happens every year.?..
 
Gotta love the offseason "Jump to Conclusions" game U guys love to play.

3 more weeks of practice, quit yer *****in!
 
Hopefully this means that when Chick comes back he will supplant Shayon and we can have the best four DL on the field.

That's not how this defense is built and I don't think that's what that depth chart indicates. I think it's pretty clear they're building specific roles for a broader plan. We may not now or ever be a 3-4 defense, but there are a good amount of examples in there that signal we will have some clear elements of that framework.

The most important takeaway from that depth chart is that we're going to throw a lot of different looks out there. I'm not saying that's necessarily good or bad with a defense that hasn't shown to be successful, but it's what it looks like we're doing.

When you say, "That's not how this defense is built" do you mean that it's not built to get the best players on the field at the same time regardless of position? Because Golden has been making similar comments about our LBs. Saying it's about get the best 3 on the field at the same time regardless of their 'true' position I guess.
 
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I don't dislike Shayon and I think he'll have a role, but if Gilbert can play and some of these other transfers (Kamalu, Renfrow) can play then we're going to see Shayon less and less.

Again, Shayon led the defense in tackles last year and has been in the system for three years. You may not think Green deserves PT but the coaches obviously feel different. Gilbert hasn't even had a practice yet and you claim he's going to step on campus and take his job?

Green is poised to have just as good of a season as any player on the defense right now. **** just a few days ago Armbrister was a JAG and if he was in the lineup the defense was in bad shape. Let the coaches coach these players up and the depth chart will work itself out. We fans have no clue whats going on behind the scenes.

Would you shut up?

I never said Gilbert would step on campus and take his job. But if Gilbert comes in and proves he's ready to play then I guarantee you we'll see less Shayon Green.

You STFU! All you do is flap your wrists on this board. You talked smack about Shayon and said when Gilbert gets on campus he'll take Shayons PT. Now you guarantee we'll see less of Shayon. This is the same Gilbert that is battling injury and hasn't had a single practice.

Shayon led the defense in tackles and is a captain of this team. He's actually participating in practices and listed on the roster. Your guarantee means jack**** right now.
 
I dont think many of the people in this thread understand what the term "JAG" means.

JAG=Just Another Guy

Shayon Green is the ultimate JAG. Unfortunately, many of the upperclassmen on our roster would be lucky to be given the term JAG.

smh guys like you on this board who love labeling UM players "JAGS" get on my nerves..... that's your opinion, you dont control what somebody is or isnt.

Most of the upperclassmen on this roster, currently, by your definition arent JAGS by the way...

Seniors

S. Morris, Mo Hagens, Ed Clements, A. Hurns, S. Henderson, B. Linder, C. Porter, L. Robinson, and J. Gaines are all very good players, far from being a JAG.

J. Wheeler, S. Green, K. Cain, and Dyron Dye are above average players, not JAGs... Green bust his *** off and made plays when nobody else on the d-line was doing it.

New comers Pat O'Donnel and D. Gilbert are very good players as well.

Kc Rogers, AJ Highsmith, and Ty Cornelius are the only JAGs I see out of the Senior class by your definition.

Juniors

Ry. Williams, R. Scott, P. Dorsett, C. Walford, S. McDermott, J. Feliciano, M. Bunche, B. Sandland on offense arent JAGS so i still dont know what the **** you are talking about.

A. Chickillo, O. Pierre, D. Perryman, L. Gunter, and T. Armbrister aren JAGS so again wtf are you talking about??

David Perry is the only JAG i can think of in the junior class....

so really who are all these upperclassmen that are JAGS or are "lucky" enough to be JAGS???
 
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Hopefully this means that when Chick comes back he will supplant Shayon and we can have the best four DL on the field.

That's not how this defense is built and I don't think that's what that depth chart indicates. I think it's pretty clear they're building specific roles for a broader plan. We may not now or ever be a 3-4 defense, but there are a good amount of examples in there that signal we will have some clear elements of that framework.

The most important takeaway from that depth chart is that we're going to throw a lot of different looks out there. I'm not saying that's necessarily good or bad with a defense that hasn't shown to be successful, but it's what it looks like we're doing.

When you say, "That's not how this defense is built" do you mean that it's not built to get the best players on the field at the same time regardless of position? Because Golden has been making similar comments about our LBs. Saying it's about get the best 3 on the field at the same time regardless of their 'true' position I guess.

+1

This depth chart is etched in sand.
 
I don't dislike Shayon and I think he'll have a role, but if Gilbert can play and some of these other transfers (Kamalu, Renfrow) can play then we're going to see Shayon less and less.

Again, Shayon led the defense in tackles last year and has been in the system for three years. You may not think Green deserves PT but the coaches obviously feel different. Gilbert hasn't even had a practice yet and you claim he's going to step on campus and take his job?

Green is poised to have just as good of a season as any player on the defense right now. **** just a few days ago Armbrister was a JAG and if he was in the lineup the defense was in bad shape. Let the coaches coach these players up and the depth chart will work itself out. We fans have no clue whats going on behind the scenes.

Would you shut up?

I never said Gilbert would step on campus and take his job. But if Gilbert comes in and proves he's ready to play then I guarantee you we'll see less Shayon Green.

You STFU! All you do is flap your wrists on this board. You talked smack about Shayon and said when Gilbert gets on campus he'll take Shayons PT. Now you guarantee we'll see less of Shayon. This is the same Gilbert that is battling injury and hasn't had a single practice.

Shayon led the defense in tackles and is a captain of this team. He's actually participating in practices and listed on the roster. Your guarantee means jack**** right now.

Lunatic,

Show me where I talked smack about Shayon. And stop repeating yourself you sound like some sort of maniac parrot.
 
Hopefully this means that when Chick comes back he will supplant Shayon and we can have the best four DL on the field.

That's not how this defense is built and I don't think that's what that depth chart indicates. I think it's pretty clear they're building specific roles for a broader plan. We may not now or ever be a 3-4 defense, but there are a good amount of examples in there that signal we will have some clear elements of that framework.

The most important takeaway from that depth chart is that we're going to throw a lot of different looks out there. I'm not saying that's necessarily good or bad with a defense that hasn't shown to be successful, but it's what it looks like we're doing.

When you say, "That's not how this defense is built" do you mean that it's not built to get the best players on the field at the same time regardless of position? Because Golden has been making similar comments about our LBs. Saying it's about get the best 3 on the field at the same time regardless of their 'true' position I guess.

What in our opinion is the best player overall may not be the best player for a role. Golden saying that about LBs shows that the roles overlap. However, I bet we won't even see 3 LBs on the field for more than 40% of our plays this season. Football overall, but definitely defense, is moving toward specialists: nickel roamer, edge guy, 5-tech guy, nose, heady safety, etc. There will still be exceptional athletes/players who will be good at basically any role or at least multiple roles.
 
I dont think many of the people in this thread understand what the term "JAG" means.

JAG=Just Another Guy

Shayon Green is the ultimate JAG. Unfortunately, many of the upperclassmen on our roster would be lucky to be given the term JAG.

smh guys like you on this board who love labeling UM players "JAGS" get on my nerves..... that's your opinion, you dont control what somebody is or isnt, clown.

Most of the upperclassmen on this roster, currently, by your definition arent JAGS by the way...

Seniors

S. Morris, Mo Hagens, Ed Clements, A. Hurns, S. Henderson, B. Linder, C. Porter, L. Robinson, and J. Gaines are all very good players, far from being a JAG.

J. Wheeler, S. Green, K. Cain, and Dyron Dye are above average players, not JAGs... Green bust his *** off and made plays when nobody else on the d-line was doing it.

New comers Pat O'Donnel and D. Gilbdert are very good players as well.

Kc Rogers, AJ Highsmith, and Ty Cornelius are the only JAGs I see out of the Senior class by your definition.

Juniors

Ry. Williams, R. Scott, P. Dorsett, C. Walford, S. McDermott, J. Feliciano, M. Bunche, B. Sandland on offense arent JAGS so i still dont know what the **** you are talking about.

A. Chickillo, O. Pierre, D. Perryman, L. Gunter, and T. Armbrister aren JAGS so again wtf are you talking about??

David Perry is the only JAG i can think of in the junior class....

so really who are all these upperclassmen that are JAGS or are "lucky" enough to be JAGS???

Zone, that's a good post and furthers the discussion, except there's no need to use the "clown" at the end. Come on, bruh. That small difference makes a big difference to how threads devolve. Tryin' to make this work for all parties.
 
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