2013 S&P+ vs 2012 S&P+

[The Franchise]

They had 361 total yards which is what the 96th offense in the country averages. They scored 21 points which is what the 103 offense in the country averages.

361 TOTAL YARDS IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They went up and down the field according to I'mFiringEveryoneDawg.

 

[Consigliere]

They had 361 total yards which is what the 96th offense in the country averages. They scored 21 points which is what the 103 offense in the country averages.

361 TOTAL YARDS IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They went up and down the field according to I'mFiringEveryoneDawg.

It was also one of the reasons they SCORED AT WILL.

 

[The Franchise]

I also like to hear how Wake, UNC, and GT went up and down the field again us? they too have superior talent?

Wake is very well coached & has a senior QB who has started like 45 games.. They went for 360 yards. BFD. UNC raped us with big plays in the 1st half with a 1st rd TE.. Giving them the ball 4 times on TO didn't help. GT was also given the ball 4 times by TO while going for 400 yards with a gimmick offense that is designed to move the ball. Superior talent? No. Equal talent? Maybe.

Tell me why Wake's well coached team did not go up and down the field against Louisiana-Monroe, BC, and Syracuse.

They had the same yards against Monroe that they had against us. BC shut them down. They might have struggled against SU because: a. they were deflated for that game after losing to us in the last minute; they played without their only 2 credible WRs.

P.S. 360 total yards isn't exactly going "up and down the field".

Why hasn't Golden recruited CBs to stop Randy Moss and Cris Carter?

You're a football scientist. Of course, you realize that there's more to a great pass defense than CBs.

Tell us again how that 360 yards is going "up and down the field". I'll take giving up 360 yards in every game. If our QB wasn't a shellshocked PTSD victim in the Wake game, we would have destroyed them.

 

[Consigliere]

Wake is very well coached & has a senior QB who has started like 45 games.. They went for 360 yards. BFD. UNC raped us with big plays in the 1st half with a 1st rd TE.. Giving them the ball 4 times on TO didn't help. GT was also given the ball 4 times by TO while going for 400 yards with a gimmick offense that is designed to move the ball. Superior talent? No. Equal talent? Maybe.

Tell me why Wake's well coached team did not go up and down the field against Louisiana-Monroe, BC, and Syracuse.

They had the same yards against Monroe that they had against us. BC shut them down. They might have struggled against SU because: a. they were deflated for that game after losing to us in the last minute; they played without their only 2 credible WRs.

P.S. 360 total yards isn't exactly going "up and down the field".

Why hasn't Golden recruited CBs to stop Randy Moss and Cris Carter?

You're a football scientist. Of course, you realize that there's more to a great pass defense than CBs.

Tell us again how that 360 yards is going "up and down the field". I'll take giving up 360 yards in every game. If our QB wasn't a shellshocked PTSD victim in the Wake game, we would have destroyed them.

It was 361 total yards. Of course 360 total yards sucks but 361 total yards is moving the ball at will.

 

[dg151]

I cant wait until the All conference list comes out for 1st,2nd, and 3rd teams.....

according to lovelamp and sebastian nobody on the defense is going to be on the list.

You so realize there's 11 players on the field right?

what does that have to do w/ the defense choking on 3rd and 4th downs but not on 1st and 2nd downs?.... the pass rush excuse has already been shut down.

Miami shouldnt have to have 5 stars across the board 2 deep before we see Miami's defense able to step up in those situations against mediocre to garbage teams, forget about elite teams like FSU. All of the ppl who keep saying Miami doesnt have any talent are comparing us to a top 3 team, what about the rest of the teams in the country who are on our same level or worse?

Miami cant stop those teams either..... whats the excuse?

We do have talent on defense, we have a handful of good players, a handful of average ones, and some really below average ones that shouldn't be on the field. The big reason we're so much better on defense this year is because the talent level is so much higher this year than last. But when you have players like Cornelius and Highsmith playing high snaps, there's going to be yards you give up. When you have young guys like Burns and AQM on the field, you're going to give up some plays.

We're 44th in the country in 3rd down conversion defense. We're average at it. If you look at the original post it actually shows how we do in passing situations (2nd and 8+ and 3rd and 5+), it's actually the worst situation the team is at (by A LOT). I think this is attributed to both play calling and talent issues. WHOA A CRAZY CONCEPT, it's might not be one or the other.

The talent ranges from good to bad, the play calling ranges from good to bad (bad the first half of Wake, pretty darn good the 2nd half and first half against FSU, and to a lesser extent the 2nd half but bleh the game was over at that point).

We don't need 5 stars across the board, but if you have ****** players on the field, you can **** sure expect the other team is going to target those players on money downs.

 

[zone3cane]

Wake Forest was 100% (2-2) on 4th down conversions, 50% on 3rd down conversions (8-16)..... all together 10-18 or 56% in converting on our defense. smh

365 total yards of offense and won the TOP battle at (32:24) - UM's (27:36) even w/ Duke running the ball most of the 4th quarter. smh

WF put 21 points up on Miami..... the other teams that Wake scored more then 21 on was Presbyterian (31), Army (25), NcSt (28), and Maryland (34).... yeah that's embarrassing, Syracuse held them to ZERO.


You have to be slow to keep saying this is a "rebuilding process" Miami isnt rebuilding anymore, they got their players, its about continuing to add to the team at this point, completely different, some of Golden / D'nofrio's players got kicked off the team for off field issues, other didnt make it in but that's not on anybody but this current coaching staff.

 

[Consigliere]

Wake Forest was 100% (2-2) on 4th down conversions, 50% on 3rd down conversions (8-16)..... all together 10-18 or 56% in converting on our defense. smh

365 total yards of offense and won the TOP battle at (32:24) - UM's (27:36) even w/ Duke running the ball most of the 4th quarter. smh

WF put 21 points up on Miami..... the other teams that Wake scored more then 21 on was Presbyterian (31), Army (25), NcSt (28), and Maryland (34).... yeah that's embarrassing, Syracuse held them to ZERO.

I am going to use your logic here.

GT beat Syracuse 56 to 0.


End thread!

 

[dg151]

So Syracuse gave up 0 to WF and 56 to GT.

And we gave up 21 to WF and 30 to GT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THAT'S ALL COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

 

[Consigliere]

So Syracuse gave up 0 to WF and 56 to GT.

And we gave up 21 to WF and 30 to GT.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THAT'S ALL COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

If we scored 21 points in every game this season, we would be 3-3-2 (if you could tie in college football).

21 points sucks. 103rd Overall!!!

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p3

 

[zone3cane]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

D'nofrio is the biggest problem w/ this defense over talent.

 

[The Franchise]

I'm going to start rooting for Syracuse because they beat Wake Forest by more points than we did. This ****'s gone sublime. Dudes need to get a hobby.

 

[Consigliere]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

SHlT IS IRRELEVANT

Did this sound good in your head? Take off your tinfoil hat.

When was the last time we played Wake Forest?

 

[zone3cane]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

SHlT IS IRRELEVANT

Did this sound good in your head? Take off your tinfoil hat.

When was the last time we played Wake Forest?

OH that's the new excuse? smh

 

[dg151]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

D'nofrio is the biggest problem w/ this defense over talent.

Why, exactly?

 

[OBLIVION]

It's hilarious how ppl want to bash James Coley in his 1st year like Jedd Fisch was anywhere near the level of Coley last year.... the offensive effeciency rating has a lot to do w/ the fact that James Coley knows how to run the ball and trust the run game.

Jedd Fisch was terrible at that but James Coley critics act like pass plays makes up an entire offense smh.... even when it comes to pass plays the offense is more efficient b/c Coley uses the run game which effects passing efficiency in a pro style offense.

I think both guys are/were good.

Fisch was dealing with a completely different animal as far as the team goes. He was told to score at will. He also helped resurrect Jacory from the dead.

All coordinators will take a lot of heat but both this year and last year, we have consistently left plays on the field because our guys just didn't make it happen.

Execution is killing us.

 

[zone3cane]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

D'nofrio is the biggest problem w/ this defense over talent.

Why, exactly?

b/c we suck on 3rd/4th down conversion defense.

 

[dg151]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

D'nofrio is the biggest problem w/ this defense over talent.

Why, exactly?

b/c we suck on 3rd/4th down conversion defense.

And why is that exclusively Coach D's fault? What specific issue with him is it? Is it every single third down conversion, or just most? Is it his play calling or the play design or his player development or something else?

 

[zone3cane]

I'm sorry guys but constantly throwing up GT like it's relevant just shows that ur trying to hard.....

When was the last time Syracuse played GT?.... b/c they have never played against a Paul Johnson GT team before.

Has nothing to do w/ the fact that they shut down WF to ZERO points while Miami gave up 21 points even though we have way more talent.

D'nofrio is the biggest problem w/ this defense over talent.

Why, exactly?

b/c we suck on 3rd/4th down conversion defense.

And why is that exclusively Coach D's fault? What specific issue with him is it? Is it every single third down conversion, or just most? Is it his play calling or the play design or his player development or something else?

it is 100% play calling/play design and maybe his entire scheme and philosophy as a whole.

 

[dg151]

So what about his play calling/play design is so horrible that it makes us so bad on third downs?

 

[am1640]

Defense is a lot better obviously but there is a reason why Miami has choked on 3rd and 4th down conversions in ACC play this season and it's not talent.

smh dude you've really stuck your heels in the dirt about the scheme on D being our problem for everything. I though my post in WCD's thread would be the last on the scheme matter but I guess this will be it.

I'm going to use j of just a couple philosophies of the dalai lama of college football (Satan) for this illustration.

Essentials of winning Secondary

All good defensive football players are good tacklers- YOU MUST BE A GOOD TACKLER

Always know the game situation: Down, Distance, Period, Time Remaining, and Score of the Game.

Remember those two keys ok

Spoiler

Now what defensive coverage we are playing doesn't even matter for this excersice (although in my non-expert opinion I thought everyone played it well, although I think TC should be carrying that shallow since his key went outside to the flat, but that's neither here nor there). Anyway remember or key "know down and distance", it's 3rd down and 10

So the reciever catches a 3 yard give or take a few inches pass

Defense has him boxed in for what will be at best a 7 yard gain setting up a 4th & 3 early in the game in Wake territory. Good stop for the defense....Howeva

Not only will Crawford miss the tackle he doesn't even force the WR to cut inside where our big badazz LB is waiting to knock his block off.

Again we don't care what the defensive coverage call is here for this just remember what Saban said "Always know the situation" It's 3rd & 10 in our RZ

The reciever catches what amounts to a 3 yard pass, but this time our guys are in position to stop him immediately for a 4 maybe 5 yard gain. Since Saban says, "YOU MUST BE A GOOD TACKLER" we are about to make Wake to have to kick a FG......

Sigh....my, my, my miss the tackle allow reciever to pick up extra and setup a 4th & short and we know what happens next

I save the best for last. Remember Always know the situation. It's late in the 4th, Miami has a 3pt lead the absolute worse thing we can do is give up a TD. Smh forget the fact that we are in man coverage and TC lost his man on the misdirection (not important) look at this horsesht attempt at a tackle from a LBer

Like I said I'll make this my last post on the matter, because IDK if my none expert opinion on the matter is any better than yours. However I feel like people get to caught up in the end result and forget all the other things that have nothing to do with the "scheme" that contribute to our failures on defense. I mean some of the biggest plays in the Wake game occurred while D'ofino had us playing Man (ie the bomb on Artie, the big 4th and 5, the TD on TC just to name a few). I mean seriously the guy can't win for losing iyam haha.

Also I'm not saying some play calls are without fault, but that goes for any Coach, however, when I think of the issues I have with what's being taught or done on defense there are other issues that come before scheme to me and one of them is tackling. I understand the concussion stuff has effect how much hitting we can do in practice, but I see little 6 year olds on Saturdays with better form then I see from some of our players during games.