The Bank (10/16)

DMoney

Oct 16, 2024 3 min read

It's been a while, so it's time to empty the recruiting notebook for the Bank. Let's go position-by-position:

- Luke Nickel (Alpharetta, GA) is locked in at quarterback and is having a good senior season. I continue to expect Miami to monitor the Portal and potentially add a proven signal caller.

- RB Girard Pringle (Seffner, FL) is committed and wowing the staff with his combination of speed, quickness and toughness. As we've been reporting, I don't see a second back in the class unless something changes.

- WRs Josh Moore (West Broward) and Daylyn Upshaw (Phenix City, AL) are committed and Miami is happy with both. Malachi Toney (American Heritage) decommitted but remains in play. The biggest name is Vernell Brown III (Orlando) and Miami will continue to push there.

- The staff is ecstatic with the senior film for Brock Schott (Leo, IN) and Luka Gilbert (Cincinnati). They believe they have an elite haul there.

- One name drawing particular buzz on the OL- SJ Alofaituli (Las Vegas). After watching his senior film, some in the building believe he is the best OL in the entire nation. You don't know for sure until he gets here, but I get the sense he is in the Rueben Bain, Francis Mauigoa, Elija Lofton category as an instant impact player.

- DE Herbert Scroggins III (Savannah) is locked in and Miami loves what he brings at JACK linebacker. Strong, productive, bendy, and plays hard with high-end intangibles. DE Hayden Lowe (Los Angeles) is considered a first round-type talent and Miami feels good about its momentum with the USC commit. Keep an eye on that one.

- The Canes are very happy with the senior film for DT commits Mykah Newton (Newberry, FL) and Donta Simpson (Chaminade). The primary target for a flip is Ohio State commit Jarquez Carter (Newberry). He is a major priority. I expect Elijah Griffin (Savannah) to commit to Georgia, but Miami will keep working there.

- Gavin Nix (IMG) and Ezekiel Marcelin (Central) are leading their respective defenses as expected. The Canes would like to add one more. The names to watch: Kellen Wiley (Seffner, FL) and Ohio State commit TJ Alford (Vero Beach, FL).

- The two biggest names to watch, at DB and in general, are DJ Pickett (Riverview, FL) and Ben Hanks (Miami). The Canes are pushing hard for both and there is movement. Jaboree Antoine (New Iberia, LA) suffered a season-ending injury, but should recover fully. He is visiting in a couple weeks and was having an outstanding senior year.

- There are a few names I wanted to highlight on the current team. One guy who isn't talked about externally but is considered a big-time player inside the building is Matthew McCoy. Some feel he is the best NFL prospect on the line. Some young names who are starting to emerge: JoJo Trader, Ny Carr and Armondo Blount. Elija Lofton and Jordan Lyle already have big roles, but those roles will increase. And keep an eye out for a guy who has been out with injury but is finally cleared: S Isaiah Thomas (Clearwater, FL). Excited to see what he looks like now that he's healthy.

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tdjones34

Oct 19, 2024

BALLHAWKU said:
To not go after the vt qb would be stupid . Watching them play tonight imo they’re the best team we play on our schedule. Those other losses because teams played them before they was clicking . They’re a real good team team , watch I expect them to win out

Drones would fit in well in our offense

Cajuncane

Oct 19, 2024

grover said:
Do kids really want to be the #4, 5 or 6 Bama recruit at their position though? I think a lot of the new reality is more parity not less. Hard to stack when your players can jump in the portal at literally any time. Which helps a staff like Miami where kids actually want to be with coaches and teammates they actually want to play for and with.

Any DB’s that want immediate playing time ought to be blowing up Narios phone and text begging him for a spot cause someone like a Hanks or a Pickett would jump to number 1 at whatever position they’d want immediately

Hurracanes

Oct 20, 2024

@DMoney are you surprised we are reaching on several positions for this class with a 7-0 season? I understand we are flipping a few players (this will be a top 10 class) but we have kids in this class that are head scratchers, imo. You see the Texas and OSU’s of the world who are going all in with their classes and loading up with high rated players. Miami isn’t exactly committed to that extent. Thoughts?

Also, anyone else scratching their heads with OL recruiting?

cway313

Oct 20, 2024

Hurracanes said:
@DMoney are you surprised we are reaching on several positions for this class with a 7-0 season? I understand we are flipping a few players (this will be a top 10 class) but we have kids in this class that are head scratchers, imo. You see the Texas and OSU’s of the world who are going all in with their classes and loading up with high rated players. Miami isn’t exactly committed to that extent. Thoughts?

Also, anyone else scratching their heads with OL recruiting?

The only correct words are. I trust Mario.

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kupakong

Oct 20, 2024

Damiencane86 said:
The narrative out there is we regress to mediocrity without Cam next year

There will always be a B.S. narrative out there on every school. That is part of the recruiting game.

If UM can drop 2 million to get the best portal QB this year, is UM going to pay nothing next year and play a stiff? That makes no sense. Any objective parent or recruit would not fall for that.

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Elmer Leghorn

Oct 20, 2024

kupakong said:
There will always be a B.S. narrative out there on every school. That is part of the recruiting game.

If UM can drop 2 million to get the best portal QB this year, is UM going to pay nothing next year and play a stiff? That makes no sense. Any objective parent or recruit would not fall for that.

There is no guarantee we get another great portal QB, regardless of the amount of money. We almost didn't get Cam. We will undoubtedly regress next year if we don't get a solid QB. Emory is not the answer. That's how I would negative against us. Any objective parent would understand that.

JD08

Oct 20, 2024

Damiencane86 said:
The narrative out there is we regress to mediocrity without Cam next year

People see that FSU is hot garbage without Jordan Travis and expect the same from us.

We will not be able to replace a talent as unique as Ward as those QBs are hard to come by. But that doesn't mean the rest of the roster will suddenly forget how to play or that a really good QB can't keep us at a high level.

cway313

Oct 20, 2024

JD08 said:
People see that FSU is hot garbage without Jordan Travis and expect the same from us.

We will not be able to replace a talent as unique as Ward as those QBs are hard to come by. But that doesn't mean the rest of the roster will suddenly forget how to play or that a really good QB can't keep us at a high level.

What about all the positions that still need an influx in talent in year 4? I'd wait to throw stones.

Allabouttheu95

Oct 20, 2024

Damiencane86 said:
The narrative out there is we regress to mediocrity without Cam next year

They’re probably right to be completely honest if we don’t hit another portal qb out of the park. But that narrative can be totally shattered by our staff when they point to the development they have going at many different spots. Db we are selling year 1 playing time. The rest of the roster outside of QB can point to development

cway313

Oct 20, 2024

Allabouttheu95 said:
They’re probably right to be completely honest if we don’t hit another portal qb out of the park. But that narrative can be totally shattered by our staff when they point to the development they have going at many different spots. Db we are selling year 1 playing time. The rest of the roster outside of QB can point to development

We are not in a next man up scenario. QB, OT, OC, WR, DT, DE, LB, CB, S all will need portal fills again next season. Idk who you see waiting in the wings at those spots but development is not where I would point.

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kupakong

Oct 20, 2024

Elmer Leghorn said:
There is no guarantee we get another great portal QB, regardless of the amount of money. We almost didn't get Cam. We will undoubtedly regress next year if we don't get a solid QB. Emory is not the answer. That's how I would negative against us. Any objective parent would understand that.

Yeah, any program without solid QB play is not going to have a good year.

Besides Texas, there is no program in the country where the backup is a 'guarantee' to be very good, so our issue is the same issue every program w a senior starting QB has.

Yeah, there is no 'guarantee' of anything. But after we just pulled the best portal QB and have the money to pull a top portal QB to think there is not a very high chance we get a solid QB next year is unrealistic on every level.

JD08

Oct 20, 2024

cway313 said:
What about all the positions that still need an influx in talent in year 4? I'd wait to throw stones.

All I'm saying is that it's not a given that we'll suck.

Allabouttheu95

Oct 20, 2024

cway313 said:
We are not in a next man up scenario. QB, OT, OC, WR, DT, DE, LB, CB, S all will need portal fills again next season. Idk who you see waiting in the wings at those spots but development is not where I would point.

I guess I didn’t explain my point correctly: development guys playing solid football for us:

WR: Horton and Restrepo (#7 is stretch because he’s always been great)
DT: Moten has given us great snaps. Scott looks like he coming along also
DE: Bryant looks good when he’s given snaps.
LB: Wes and popo have been developed
Corner: nothing good to say here
Safety: nothing good to say here

But to your point you’re absolutely right we MUST recruit better across the board leading to quality depth

Problem2

Oct 20, 2024

Elmer Leghorn said:
There is no guarantee we get another great portal QB, regardless of the amount of money. We almost didn't get Cam. We will undoubtedly regress next year if we don't get a solid QB. Emory is not the answer. That's how I would negative against us. Any objective parent would understand that.

First last you said we would have 4 losses in the SEC, now this.

Are you a Nole? :pgdead:

Damiencane86

Oct 20, 2024

Allabouttheu95 said:
They’re probably right to be completely honest if we don’t hit another portal qb out of the park. But that narrative can be totally shattered by our staff when they point to the development they have going at many different spots. Db we are selling year 1 playing time. The rest of the roster outside of QB can point to development

Agreed. It really is as simple as getting another good (not expecting Cam level) qb and a talent infusion in secondary. We have turned over talent completely elsewhere.

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Elmer Leghorn

Oct 20, 2024

Problem2 said:
First last you said we would have 4 losses in the SEC, now this.

Are you a Nole?

Die hard Cane fan. Nothing I said in either post is unreasonable or exaggerated. We got lucky to beat very average Cal and V tech teams. I absolutely think we would lose 4 games in the SEC. I absolutely think we regress next year if Emory is our QB.

Problem2

Oct 20, 2024

FSU failed because they went cheap and thought Norvell could coach up a bum like DJU

Obviously there ain't another Cam out there, but if you use his salary for another QB for next year while recruiting with the results he had this year, I don't get why it's so unreasonable to think they wouldn't be able to pull the top QB in the portal again this year

It's easy to doom and say they'll miss lol. No **** that can happen

Problem2

Oct 20, 2024

Elmer Leghorn said:
Die hard Cane fan. Nothing I said in either post is unreasonable or exaggerated. We got lucky to beat very average Cal and V tech teams. I absolutely think we would lose 4 games in the SEC. I absolutely think we regress next year if Emory is our QB.

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Elmer Leghorn

Oct 20, 2024

Problem2 said:
FSU failed because they went cheap and thought Norvell could coach up a bum like DJU

Obviously there ain't another Cam out there, but if you use his salary for another QB for next year while recruiting with the results he had this year, I don't get why it's so unreasonable to think they wouldn't be able to pull the top QB in the portal again this year

It's easy to doom and say they'll miss lol. No **** that can happen

We might get another good portal QB. If we do, we should have another good year. We might not. Other teams will pay for said QB too. We need to get to a point where we can play our recruited QBs. I understand this takes time given the shape of our program when Mario took over. He hasn't recruited QB very well. Emory is light years behind Cam. If he's our guy, I expect regression. Not FSU level regression, but regression. I can see teams recruiting against us using that.

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twes.305

Oct 20, 2024

Elmer Leghorn said:
We might get another good portal QB. If we do, we should have another good year. We might not. Other teams will pay for said QB too. We need to get to a point where we can play our recruited QBs. I understand this takes time given the shape of our program when Mario took over. He hasn't recruited QB very well. Emory is light years behind Cam. If he's our guy, I expect regression. Not FSU level regression, but regression. I can see teams recruiting against us using that.

Hopefully wat we lose in offense we make up for it on defense. I think the offense will pretty much stay the same except Cam Ward, which that type of player at qb doesn’t grow on trees. The defense has more holes to fix. Hopefully they address the holes over the offseason and with recruiting to offset the lost of Ward. If the Canes close well they’ll be alright.

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