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2024 Zaquan Patterson - Safety, Chaminade

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Hurracanes said:
If FSU pays him to commit publicly but doesn’t sign him that’s an actual L. That’s easy money and lots of it for anyone, let alone a kid in high school. Ridiculous amount. It would be stupid for him not to. Plus, it’s a major risk for FSU or anyone else who approaches recruiting with that strategy. The real win or loss is decided where he actually signs.

How is that a L for Miami? Because Miami isn’t willing to play that game? Miss me with that narrative.
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Or course it’s an L for Miami. What in the world???

FSU is simply playing the same game every other program that cares about winning in college football is doing. So is Ole Miss, so is Auburn, so is UF…I could rattle off 30 schools that are probably engaging in similar behavior. I’m not even diving into the optics of continuing to get battered and bruised this entire cycle, culminating in losing a local kid to an in-state rival with a top rated class.

If we won’t adapt and engage in the same game everyone else plays, well then…temper expectations.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
Or course it’s an L for Miami. What in the world???

FSU is simply playing the same game everyone else in college football is. So is Ole Miss, so is Auburn, so is UF…I could rattle off 30 schools that are probably engaging in similar behavior.
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it’s easier to hold on to a commitment than to gain it later, or so the trend is going. He commits to FSU and they have a good year and we have another bad or average year, do they think he’s going to flip to us? What’s to stop them from paying him more to stay? I’d rather not roll those dice personally
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Or course it’s an L for Miami. What in the world???

FSU is simply playing the same game everyone else in college football is. So is Ole Miss, so is Auburn, so is UF…I could rattle off 30 schools that are probably engaging in similar behavior.
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If you think paying a kid to publicly commit but not actually sign with your program is a W then i don’t know what to tell you. Our approach towards business is entirely different. Miami isn’t doing that nor are they illegally paying kids.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Yeah you’re right, it’s ok if the girl you’ve wined and dined for quite some time just goes and f^cks a dude for a few months. Definitely the right message to send, she even told you she’d gonna go back after she’s had her fun. As long as she ends up with you when it’s all said and done!

That my friend, would be a cuck. I don’t want him committing there at all. Then you’re relying on hypotheticals - us winning games, them losing, $ being upped to keep him happy and committed (which FSU will absolutely do), etc.

Let’s just win the recruitment NOW like we were supposed to all along.
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Okay...let me be clear.
First if he commits to the semenholes that would suck...be an L whatever you want to call it that would be it. My disagreement to the post that I replied too was the part that it would still be an L regardless if he is in the class or not. That's insane...because in that scenario we have the player in our roster playing for us so how could that possibly be an L. To be clear I have no clue that's what will happen so if he commits to the semenholes that's an L because I'll assume he is signing there until proven otherwise.
Second...in reference to the rest...I guess I'm just not that emotional of a person. I don't get caught in the hysterics if the moment. To me all that matters is if we end up with the player or not. That's the only thing that makes a difference in the long run. Feel free to disagree.
 
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Hurracanes said:
If FSU pays him to commit publicly but doesn’t sign him that’s an actual L. That’s easy money and lots of it for anyone, let alone a kid in high school. Ridiculous amount. It would be stupid for him not to. Plus, it’s a major risk for FSU or anyone else who approaches recruiting with that strategy. The real win or loss is decided where he actually signs.

How is that a L for Miami? Because Miami isn’t willing to play that game? Miss me with that narrative.
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If FSU is in fact paying kids to verbally commit and kids would be "stupid" not to commit, are you saying Trader is stupid? Just trying to keep track here because, respectfully, it seems to me like it's always false bravado followed by excuse making from you.
 
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jmccomber5 said:
it’s easier to hold on to a commitment than to gain it later, or so the trend is going. He commits to FSU and they have a good year and we have another bad or average year, do they think he’s going to flip to us? What’s to stop them from paying him more to stay? I’d rather not roll those dice personally
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Once you land the kid, all it takes is a payment or two to keep him and his family content. Especially if you’re winning. Miami has many more hurdles to overcome if they don’t land an initial commitment.
 
MiamiBusiness said:
If FSU is in fact paying kids to verbally commit and they would be "stupid" not to, are you saying Trader is stupid? Just trying to keep track here because, respectfully, it seems to me like it's always false bravado followed by excuse making from you.
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Huh?
 
Torocane said:
Okay...let me be clear.
First he commits to the semenholes that would suck...be an L whatever you want to call it that would be it. My disagreement to the post that I replied too was the part that it would still be an L regardless if he is in the class or not. That's insane...because in that scenario we have the player in our roster playing for us so how could that possibly be an L. To be clear I have no clue that's what will happen so if he commits to the semenholes that's an L because I'll assume he is signing there until proven otherwise.
Second...in refeneced to the rest...I guess I'm just not that emotional of a person. I don't get caught in the hysterics if the moment. To me all that matters is if we end up with the player or not. That's the only thing that makes a difference in the long run. Feel free to disagree.
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I think this is likely how most people feel. I mean show me a crystal ball that says FSU gives him a big bag and then we flip him later…we would all love for that to happen

But like you said hey, that’s a lot of faith to put into a process 😂
 
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Cribby said:
Mario has had two classes and this is the third. They’ve been almost dead on when they’re confident in a kid until this go round. Ironically the year they‘re focusing on national elites. But don’t stop that from you lying.
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Relax. It's not a shot at you or him. What I mean/meant is this isn't a Mario "issue," that just showed up. UM feeling confident and then coming up short has been going on for years. It happens.
 
Hurracanes said:
No we don’t. You’re being irrational. Who cares about Saturday as long as we sign him in December? It’s irrelevant.
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You think a local kid like Patterson publicly committing to another program (our bitter rival at that) when we are getting our teeth kicked in on the recruiting trail is irrelevant? I guess we just disagree man.
 
JHallCanes said:
Embarrassing take
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Really? How many recruiting cycles and staffs have we been through where the information or confidence coming from UM has fallen short, for a variety of reasons? It isn't just something that showed up this year is the point.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
Once you land the kid, all it takes is a payment or two to keep him and his family content. Especially if you’re winning. Miami has many more hurdles to overcome if they don’t land an initial commitment.
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I don’t understand the failure to grasp this concept. Having to depend on flipping someone is an unbelievably foolish strategy and takes a level of faith that I can’t get to. And we see it every day in this site: “well if we win 8 games and X player at their position balls out then they’ll flip.” Will they? If they are committed to a team that has as good or better of a season are they leaving that team for us? Are we saying that we expect these recruits to see it happen for one season and leave a commitment to a program that’s been doing it for years? If we beat 8 teams or put one guy in the league this year that now overrides everything? It’s naive at best.
 
Odin said:
Unacceptable.We have an all american safety moving on and this kid would just step in for him here.If we can't sell a local that on top of his mom wanting him here then Mario will never win **** here.
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JHallCanes said:
I think this is likely how most people feel. I mean show me a crystal ball that says FSU gives him a big bag and then we flip him later…we would all love for that to happen

But like you said hey, that’s a lot of faith to put into a process 😂
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I keep it simple..
It's an L if he commits to the Semenholes.
It's an L if he signs with the Semenholes.
It's NOT an L if he signs with us.
 
simplycanes said:
Really? How many recruiting cycles and staffs have we been through where the information or confidence coming from UM has fallen short, for a variety of reasons? It isn't just something that showed up this year is the point.
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Who cares about previous staffs?

Or are you coming up with the groundbreaking take that not all programs land every single kid they are confident with?

Or were you saying the same **** when everyone was clowning the staff saying they felt confident with Lightfoot when everyone said he was gone?
 
Yes, fsu is paying kids to committ and even visit. **** one of their bigger boosters (chicken guy) feeds one of their 247 x and O guys (bald headed Craigslist cuck) guys information. It’s nuts how desperate they got because how bad Mike is at recruiting. They are desperate and probably gonna lose 3-4 games and that’s why they are pushing for committs.
 
MiamiBusiness said:
It means a lot to us. We cannot afford another L. Perception becomes reality on the recruiting trail. Patterson committing to FSU on Saturday would be a massive L.
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Don't get me wrong I was just saying what I thought he was saying. Of course it's another L but I've also seen it enough times this cycle to know to look the other way when anything about a bag being dropped is being mentioned. Seems to convenient rumors about FSU dropping a bag followed by him setting a commitment date. I would not be surprised if FSU is paying him the farm to drop some more reality on us.
 
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