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jw410 said:
bes628 said:
The Dude said:
MIA42178 said:
Didn't Fisch coach WRs at Denver or something? I thought he coached Brandon Marshall at some point? If I'm correct, then Fisch will have his eye on that coaching spot regardless.
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I prefer he focuses on the offense play-calling and QB's only. WR is more of a natural position that you can get by with athleticism - especially in college.
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Seriously think back before McDonald about how horrible our wr's as a unit were
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they cannot regress. I mean just think I went to four games this year. all away games and I personally saw over 10 dropped passes. If we would've caught another 15-20 passes that were dropped could've been the difference between 2-3 wins last season.
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lol they absolutely can regress.
 
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So let me get this straight...

The staff and the team spent a year with Coach McDonald. Last I remembered, coaching is a lot like teaching, and if the students do what they are supposed to do, lessons stick and carry forward. Perhaps Coach C and the veteran WRs will be able to carry on McDonald's legacy, and ::gasp:: improve on his methods?

It's easy to have faith when there is good leadership.
 
let's stop w/ the revisionist history. a month ago, it was widely acknowledged that McDonald was one of the best position coaches on the staff. that perception was underscored by Bielema hiring him to ARk for double his salary. the guy is a **** good wr coach.

i believe we made a fantastic hire in cristobal. he is a phenomenal recruiter, especially in S. Fla. And now we have a second head coach on the staff. that can only help. But the downside is that carrol is now the wr coach, and is unproven at that slot. it doesn't mean he won't turn into an outstanding coach at that position, but we just don't know at this point.

the risk, however, is mitigated by golden (and fisch) providing him all the mentorship and resources to excel. and the posters are correct in saying that the wr position is one where the technical aspects are less important than other areas (e.g. offensive line).
 
everyone acts like since carroll is the new wr coach all of our wr are just going to start dropping passes and forget how to catch... fisch will have them lined up in the right spot running the correct routes, im not worried about this at all
 
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drifters1234 said:
let's stop w/ the revisionist history. a month ago, it was widely acknowledged that McDonald was one of the best position coaches on the staff. that perception was underscored by Bielema hiring him to ARk for double his salary. the guy is a **** good wr coach.

i believe we made a fantastic hire in cristobal. he is a phenomenal recruiter, especially in S. Fla. And now we have a second head coach on the staff. that can only help. But the downside is that carrol is now the wr coach, and is unproven at that slot. it doesn't mean he won't turn into an outstanding coach at that position, but we just don't know at this point.

the risk, however, is mitigated by golden (and fisch) providing him all the mentorship and resources to excel. and the posters are correct in saying that the wr position is one where the technical aspects are less important than other areas (e.g. offensive line).
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like the analysis, but i saw amari cooper in the NC game and his route running seems a lot better than the some of our players. natural talent? better coaching? i dont know. i think there are a lot of technical aspects to being a good receiver. it IS a skill position.
 
I deleted it because no one cares. If you have beef with threadkilla, send him a pm and give him stern lecture. Or, go to the WEZ forum and post whatever you like. This is the football board. It's for discussion about the UM football team. Not petty message board drama from a site maybe 20 people here have heard of or care about.
 
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Dan E. Dangerously said:
I deleted it because no one cares. If you have beef with threadkilla, send him a pm and give him stern lecture. Or, go to the WEZ forum and post whatever you like. This is the football board. It's for discussion about the UM football team. Not petty message board drama from a site maybe 20 people here have heard of or care about.
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Gotcha. Should of posted on the WEZ.
 
2001canes4L said:
everyone acts like since carroll is the new wr coach all of our wr are just going to start dropping passes and forget how to catch... fisch will have them lined up in the right spot running the correct routes, im not worried about this at all
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One thing that we do have is the progression of Walford as a pass catcher. From the time BC started coaching him til the end of last season he has made tremendous strides as a receiver.
 
IS there a limit to how many coaches you can have on staff?
 
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I hate to contribute, especially with my example being Cooper. That being said, if coaching was such a huge aspect with his emergence, how come some of the highly regarded prospects did not emerge with the same coaching Cooper received...Bama has other, older receivers who got the same coaching and were highly regarded coming in, as well. Having played the position in a small school setting, I'll say it is a mix of both coaching and talent. Some kids take coaching the right way and grow with it and, regardless of natural born talent, some just don't grow with it. It's not a science but I do feel it's a fluctuating mix between talent and coaching. Some kids need it, some kids thrive regardless.
 
It's always about coaching and players, not coaching or players. That's an obvious point often missed for some reason.

Fisch said in a recent radio interview that we had 50 dropped passes this year. He wasn't knocking the receivers. He was pointing out that Morris was better than the stats looked.

This poster gets it:
Plus coaches work on their skills just like players do. There's nothing stopping him from going to coaching clinics, studying with other coaches, and things like that.

I'd be more worried if Carroll had never coached offense before, but this shouldn't be a culture shock for him.
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IMO, Carroll will do just fine. He won't be operating in a vacuum. He'll get plenty of support from this staff. Guys move around as position coaches quite often to positions they never played.

I'm good with all of it. We are on a good track.
 
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Yes on WR being an easier transition but no on RB
- Pass blocking especially with a team that blitzes is tough for True F to pick up
- Also HS RBs just dont catch the ball out of the backfield much - especially down field. Cant event imagine what our record would look like in 2012 without Duke but in the KSU game he dropped a ton of passes down field
- If he works on this part of his game and the TEs continue their growth - this off will be very tough
 
rsa coral gables said:
drifters1234 said:
let's stop w/ the revisionist history. a month ago, it was widely acknowledged that McDonald was one of the best position coaches on the staff. that perception was underscored by Bielema hiring him to ARk for double his salary. the guy is a **** good wr coach.

i believe we made a fantastic hire in cristobal. he is a phenomenal recruiter, especially in S. Fla. And now we have a second head coach on the staff. that can only help. But the downside is that carrol is now the wr coach, and is unproven at that slot. it doesn't mean he won't turn into an outstanding coach at that position, but we just don't know at this point.

the risk, however, is mitigated by golden (and fisch) providing him all the mentorship and resources to excel. and the posters are correct in saying that the wr position is one where the technical aspects are less important than other areas (e.g. offensive line).
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like the analysis, but i saw amari cooper in the NC game and his route running seems a lot better than the some of our players. natural talent? better coaching? i dont know. i think there are a lot of technical aspects to being a good receiver. it IS a skill position.
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As far as Amari goes alot of it is natural, and alot of it is the coaching he got at Northwestern. Like i said if you watched him do the camps last year he was very Polished in his route running. He's played the spot for some time.

Also if you look at our guys....guys like Dorsett (Sta-Chaminade/Cris Carter-A former nfl guy forgot his name) and Malcolm Lewis(Miramar-Coach T.Y.) come in as accomplished route runners and see the field early over guys that may have more athletic ability.
 
In my view the wide reciever position was collateral damage in the Cristobal hireing. Sorry guys but we replaced a quality WR coach with a coach that has neither played or coached the position before. That's not the way to build a championship staff.
 
mianjomar said:
In my view the wide reciever position was collateral damage in the Cristobal hireing. Sorry guys but we replaced a quality WR coach with a coach that has neither played or coached the position before. That's not the way to build a championship staff.
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