Without Cam Ward…

You unfortunately did not grasp the point. The point is who will be back next year on our team? Most of them suck.
It's still not a mystery to anyone. The original poster didn't need to point out that we're worse off without Cam Ward. No new information was presented.
 
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I think we will look back at this year and appreciate CW for kickstarting our run back to relevance.

That said - a couple of the wins we had earlier in year where we Cam comebacks was partially due to Cam in the game too.

A good system qb who knows who he is and takes what defenses give would have us at 6-3 or 7-2 imo.

Next year I could easily see us have a worse qb and a dominant offense with the strength in oline, rbs and tes.
FSU thought the same thing. I think that’s what trouble canes fans right now
 
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Yeah but would they be a 500 team??? This season without Ward isn’t remotely a good one which tells me that we have a lot of issues being masked right now by a generational qb talent which tells me a lot of **** hasn’t really been fixed.
It's a useless thought expirement we do have Cam Ward these what ifs don't change anything.

Also doesn't mean next years team is going to suck. That's not how this works.
 
How many teams would be exactly thr same without their staring QB?
Specially when thar QB is the best in the country?
Apparently no one else. Every other team has two more QBs would would step in and do the same thing.
 
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I’m a pretty negative guy. I say 8-2 and the offense looks alot different. Idk it’s a subjective game at this point.
 
Cam is the best player in the country. Obviously, we'd be a lot worse without him. But you don't just subtract him and say we lose every game that was reasonably close. We'd be a whole different team with a different play style.

There are plenty of real facts worth talking about. No need to waste time on hypothetical "facts."
 
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Yeah but would they be a 500 team??? This season without Ward isn’t remotely a good one which tells me that we have a lot of issues being masked right now by a generational qb talent which tells me a lot of **** hasn’t really been fixed.
Yes.

He's also not a generational talent.
 
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