Without Cam Ward…

You unfortunately did not grasp the point. The point is who will be back next year on our team? Most of them suck.
It's still not a mystery to anyone. The original poster didn't need to point out that we're worse off without Cam Ward. No new information was presented.
 
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I think we will look back at this year and appreciate CW for kickstarting our run back to relevance.

That said - a couple of the wins we had earlier in year where we Cam comebacks was partially due to Cam in the game too.

A good system qb who knows who he is and takes what defenses give would have us at 6-3 or 7-2 imo.

Next year I could easily see us have a worse qb and a dominant offense with the strength in oline, rbs and tes.
FSU thought the same thing. I think that’s what trouble canes fans right now
 
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Yeah but would they be a 500 team??? This season without Ward isn’t remotely a good one which tells me that we have a lot of issues being masked right now by a generational qb talent which tells me a lot of **** hasn’t really been fixed.
It's a useless thought expirement we do have Cam Ward these what ifs don't change anything.

Also doesn't mean next years team is going to suck. That's not how this works.
 
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Cam is the best player in the country. Obviously, we'd be a lot worse without him. But you don't just subtract him and say we lose every game that was reasonably close. We'd be a whole different team with a different play style.

There are plenty of real facts worth talking about. No need to waste time on hypothetical "facts."
 
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Yeah but would they be a 500 team??? This season without Ward isn’t remotely a good one which tells me that we have a lot of issues being masked right now by a generational qb talent which tells me a lot of **** hasn’t really been fixed.
Yes.

He's also not a generational talent.
 
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