Why did Richt recruit better at UGA than at Miami?

[SayWhat]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.

Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

Killed it and more importantly, saved me a lot of typing.

 

[Reppingtheu]

UGA has been dropping bags, Richt just wasn't in on it or encouraging it like Kirby is.

Also, during his time at UGA there was very little rivals for in state recruits, Clemson for most of his tenure was not the dominant force they are now, Spurrier was actually running shìt in South Carolina during that time so a lot of the recruits that Clemson gets now he was getting, they also didn't really have the cache to take too many from them. They basically got the guys that Richt miss evaluated, like Watson.

All he really had to contend with was Bama, Auburn & occasionally Ole Miss or FSU whenever Jumbo would try to land a kid Georgia.

Recruiting at Miami is arguably the most difficult recruiting ground to navigate, because for 1), we don't have the financial backing & booster base willing to pay whatever to get the best talent & for 2), the school doesn't allocate enough funds to the recruiting budget, therefore bare minimum gets spent & the results show. We also haven't been a winning program in **** near 20 years which is very hard to sell to recruits, especially when you're not paying.

Miami is war zone recruiting ground, every program in P5 football is gunning after the talent down here, so if you don't have something to attract the recruits to consider you, you're shìt out of luck.

It's why Miami has been retarded not switching to a Full spread offense all this time these last two decades, because in the process of us losing so much & looking like a god awful program, we had absolutely nothing to sell except yesteryear prestige. Had we been running a high octane offense we would've won more games & been able to sell locally to kids that regardless of the record they can come here, be productive putting up numbers & play in an exciting offense.

That's why it's crucial that Miami hires the right coach, because when we do, we have the potential to go on a major run that looks like what Bama & Clemson had going for these last 10 years. We get the right coach who can eval & recruit, we'll win more games, which will make us more viable for more high level recruits, which attracts better talent, which increases the probability of winning big. It's all a domino effect.

@Liberty City El I’m curious about the recruiting budget. What do those funds go toward? How would we use an increase in recruiting budget? Does it mean we can visit recruits more often or take them to nicer places?

 

[ATL-BRAD]

Miami's in the better recruiting territory.

Yet he left behind the #6 roster in the country for Kirby Smart at UGA, and the #18 roster in the country for Manny Diaz. (Per 247 talent composite.)

WTF?


And I honestly doubt he used bagmen at UGA, given his Christian morals.

I lived in Atlanta during that time. Trust me there a plenty of bagmen in and around UGA and they like to brag about who they have bought!

 

[Ethnicsands]

Miami's in the better recruiting territory.

Yet he left behind the #6 roster in the country for Kirby Smart at UGA, and the #18 roster in the country for Manny Diaz. (Per 247 talent composite.)

WTF?


And I honestly doubt he used bagmen at UGA, given his Christian morals.

Keep in mind, Richt was burnt out and checked out before he even came to UM. He didn’t plan to take the job and was looking for an out two classes into his tenure.

 

[jmiller]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.

Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

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[PredaCane]

Can't drop bags in Miami. People keep thinking it's a non factor.but nothing could be further from the truth.