Why did Richt recruit better at UGA than at Miami?

[pyhooya]

UGA has been dropping bags, Richt just wasn't in on it or encouraging it like Kirby is.

Also, during his time at UGA there was very little rivals for in state recruits, Clemson for most of his tenure was not the dominant force they are now, Spurrier was actually running shìt in South Carolina during that time so a lot of the recruits that Clemson gets now he was getting, they also didn't really have the cache to take too many from them. They basically got the guys that Richt miss evaluated, like Watson.

All he really had to contend with was Bama, Auburn & occasionally Ole Miss or FSU whenever Jumbo would try to land a kid Georgia.

Recruiting at Miami is arguably the most difficult recruiting ground to navigate, because for 1), we don't have the financial backing & booster base willing to pay whatever to get the best talent & for 2), the school doesn't allocate enough funds to the recruiting budget, therefore bare minimum gets spent & the results show. We also haven't been a winning program in **** near 20 years which is very hard to sell to recruits, especially when you're not paying.

Miami is war zone recruiting ground, every program in P5 football is gunning after the talent down here, so if you don't have something to attract the recruits to consider you, you're shìt out of luck.

It's why Miami has been retarded not switching to a Full spread offense all this time these last two decades, because in the process of us losing so much & looking like a god awful program, we had absolutely nothing to sell except yesteryear prestige. Had we been running a high octane offense we would've won more games & been able to sell locally to kids that regardless of the record they can come here, be productive putting up numbers & play in an exciting offense.

That's why it's crucial that Miami hires the right coach, because when we do, we have the potential to go on a major run that looks like what Bama & Clemson had going for these last 10 years. We get the right coach who can eval & recruit, we'll win more games, which will make us more viable for more high level recruits, which attracts better talent, which increases the probability of winning big. It's all a domino effect.

You left out 3 and 4......Miami has sucked last 15 years(mainly due to horrible coaching) and SFL has a lot more divas. Just looking for highest bidder at the moment

I agree 100% with running a spread offense....but I prefer more throwing spread(oklahoma) compared to running the QB 15+ times a game(baylor). I know this season we will see alot of QB running but next year we wont have the same type of QB as King. Unless we get another transfer

 

[RocketsandCanes]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.

Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

 

[RocketsandCanes]

Oh and because Jon Richt sucked. Can't forget that one.

 

[Goulds Cane]

Richt was our first halfway competent coach in years & he got us a win away from the CFP with Malik Rosier at QB.

 

[dedostheibis]

Richt brought in a top 5 class here. the only time since 2008

 

[Dwinstitles]

Miami's in the better recruiting territory.

Yet he left behind the #6 roster in the country for Kirby Smart at UGA, and the #18 roster in the country for Manny Diaz. (Per 247 talent composite.)

WTF?


And I honestly doubt he used bagmen at UGA, given his Christian morals.

It's all starts up top man

 

[88]

Georgia is king instate and the state is completely saturated with talent. Plus, they drop bags.

Next question

 

[Ethnicsands]

UGA has been dropping bags, Richt just wasn't in on it or encouraging it like Kirby is.

Also, during his time at UGA there was very little rivals for in state recruits, Clemson for most of his tenure was not the dominant force they are now, Spurrier was actually running shìt in South Carolina during that time so a lot of the recruits that Clemson gets now he was getting, they also didn't really have the cache to take too many from them. They basically got the guys that Richt miss evaluated, like Watson.

All he really had to contend with was Bama, Auburn & occasionally Ole Miss or FSU whenever Jumbo would try to land a kid Georgia.

Recruiting at Miami is arguably the most difficult recruiting ground to navigate, because for 1), we don't have the financial backing & booster base willing to pay whatever to get the best talent & for 2), the school doesn't allocate enough funds to the recruiting budget, therefore bare minimum gets spent & the results show. We also haven't been a winning program in **** near 20 years which is very hard to sell to recruits, especially when you're not paying.

Miami is war zone recruiting ground, every program in P5 football is gunning after the talent down here, so if you don't have something to attract the recruits to consider you, you're shìt out of luck.

It's why Miami has been retarded not switching to a Full spread offense all this time these last two decades, because in the process of us losing so much & looking like a god awful program, we had absolutely nothing to sell except yesteryear prestige. Had we been running a high octane offense we would've won more games & been able to sell locally to kids that regardless of the record they can come here, be productive putting up numbers & play in an exciting offense.

That's why it's crucial that Miami hires the right coach, because when we do, we have the potential to go on a major run that looks like what Bama & Clemson had going for these last 10 years. We get the right coach who can eval & recruit, we'll win more games, which will make us more viable for more high level recruits, which attracts better talent, which increases the probability of winning big. It's all a domino effect.

This. All of it.

 

[Ethnicsands]

It's not like coaches literally tell people to drop a bag. They say things like "we need to make sure we get this guy", and the people with the money, get the guy.

‘Here are some guys we’re really excited about.’

’It’s be great if we get [so and so] ... he’s still undecided.’

’CB is a real big need this cycle ... our top targets are ....‘

 

[Canes2082]

UGA has been dropping bags, Richt just wasn't in on it or encouraging it like Kirby is.

Also, during his time at UGA there was very little rivals for in state recruits, Clemson for most of his tenure was not the dominant force they are now, Spurrier was actually running shìt in South Carolina during that time so a lot of the recruits that Clemson gets now he was getting, they also didn't really have the cache to take too many from them. They basically got the guys that Richt miss evaluated, like Watson.

All he really had to contend with was Bama, Auburn & occasionally Ole Miss or FSU whenever Jumbo would try to land a kid Georgia.

Recruiting at Miami is arguably the most difficult recruiting ground to navigate, because for 1), we don't have the financial backing & booster base willing to pay whatever to get the best talent & for 2), the school doesn't allocate enough funds to the recruiting budget, therefore bare minimum gets spent & the results show. We also haven't been a winning program in **** near 20 years which is very hard to sell to recruits, especially when you're not paying.

Miami is war zone recruiting ground, every program in P5 football is gunning after the talent down here, so if you don't have something to attract the recruits to consider you, you're shìt out of luck.

It's why Miami has been retarded not switching to a Full spread offense all this time these last two decades, because in the process of us losing so much & looking like a god awful program, we had absolutely nothing to sell except yesteryear prestige. Had we been running a high octane offense we would've won more games & been able to sell locally to kids that regardless of the record they can come here, be productive putting up numbers & play in an exciting offense.

That's why it's crucial that Miami hires the right coach, because when we do, we have the potential to go on a major run that looks like what Bama & Clemson had going for these last 10 years. We get the right coach who can eval & recruit, we'll win more games, which will make us more viable for more high level recruits, which attracts better talent, which increases the probability of winning big. It's all a domino effect.

 

[dumbo]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.

Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

I guess Richt got the players motivated for the Russell Athletic Bowl. He didn't seem to get players motivated for the two Wisconsin bowls, especially the second one.

 

[RocketsandCanes]

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I guess Richt got the players motivated for the Russell Athletic Bowl. He didn't seem to get players motivated for the two Wisconsin bowls, especially the second one.

I’ll agree with you on the second one for sure. I thought they played hard in the first one. But just came up short.

 

[nycane]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

we sucked for 15 years and he got fired from uga

 

[RVACane]

 

[hanna445]

Also understand Georgia is the flagship program in the state. Unless another big team is coming in for a big time prospect, UGA has their pick of talent in the state.

 

[canecat]

UGA won a ton of games and was top 10 program. Also the one thing Richt did great at UM was recruiting so this is a silly *** topic. Richt left the program with a ton more talent then he got it and that is a fact. But he at the end couldn't even do that as literally Richt's issues were everything else beyond recruiting . Once all those other things came into play he couldn't recruit anymore on offense as no one wanted to play in that 1995 offense . For the same reason we will in the class we sign next Dec/Feb get the best offensive talent we have signed in 20 years as everyone will want to play in the Lashlee offense want they get a sight of it IMO.

 

[TheMatador]

Plus, Miami's a school, with classes and stuff.

 

[TheMatador]

I don't necessarily think this was all due to RIcht. He was at a disadvantage the moment he started coaching at Miami. I'm going to get torn up for this, but here are my opinions on the subject:

1. Kids like the SEC B.S.
2. Georgia has bee much more successful than Miami in the past 15 years or so, and these kids have actually witnessed it on tv rather than having to rely on older family members telling them how great Miami used to be.

3. Georgia actually cares about winning their bowl games (once again looking at the past 15 years or so, and specifically mid and lower level bowls). I personally feel that winning whatever bowl game you're in is huge because it's the last impression your program gets to make on the field to recruits before the season ends. Ending the season on a bowl loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. This isn't necessarily Richt's fault, as I think he has been the only coach we've had that was able to motivate Miami teams to compete in bowls since the Coker era.

4. Contrary to the "I don't understand why these city kids want to go up and play in these hick college towns in Athens, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn" posters on here, I think that going to a school that has a traditional college town atmosphere is appealing to a lot (not all) of kids. These days college town doesn't mean lack of things to do. College towns are big business, and that means that restaurants, bars, music venues, etc. have all caught on and joined the market. More importantly, in a college town there is a rabid sense of community and support for the schools there, which Miami just doesn't have with the Heat, Dolphins, (I won't including the Marlins), and other large attractions that take away from people attending games.

5. This doesn't specifically apply to Georgia, but it's one of my pet peeves on this board, so I'm going to include it: For most kids (especially the ones that didn't grow up in South Florida, and even more so for highly ranked kids), weather is not a consideration in where they go to play football. They want to win and go make a ton of money in the NFL. I find it hilarious when posters are dumbfounded by a kid who chooses to go play at OSU or another northern school over a southern school. Snow isn't fun most of the time, but choosing a school based on a fear of cold weather is laughable.

6. Having to drive 45 minutes to the stadium (even though it's a very nice one) hurts.

Those are my opinions, now bring on the waves of angry meteorologists and Club Liv bros.

Plus those older family members are getting old...in some cases really old. A few might be even dropping dead. Others, like me, are losing brain cells (I admit it). Nobody wants to hear us talk about guys with grey beards now.

What south Florida five star wants me rambling on about Walsh and Irvin or even Ed Reed or Sean Taylor when they can negotiate a six figure deal plus car plus maybe even house and no-show fake job for parent or uncle even if it means living in a red neck ****hole town for three years.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

That's why it's crucial that Miami hires the right coach, because when we do, we have the potential to go on a major run that looks like what Bama & Clemson had going for these last 10 years.

You had already mesmerized all the suckers. That sentence merely put it over the top

 

[CaneStuck@USF]

Because he cared at Georgia. Miami was merely a retirement home that allowed him to move his son in with him.