When we play man...

[Tano]

Is anyone else noticing that the "press" element of man coverage is largely absent? Am I alone in this? One play I'm thinking of is when Gunter was matched up on McAffrey and got beat for the long pass. I'm wondering if the lack of press at the line is intentional.

 

[ball915]

we give teams a 10 yard cushion on 3rd and 3.........no bumping in 3 years

 

[Tano]

Not always, there are times where we lined up between 3-5 yards off the receiver, and I watched intently looking for a bump from our corners. The McAffrey play stood out to me because Gunter is like twice his size and I figured he could manhandle him at the line. Sadly, it didn't happen.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

This.






We play man to man, its just not the usual press man we've all grown accustumed to through the Shannon years

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

A few of us noticed this going back to last year but were blasted by the board for hating on the coaches.

It's just another head-scratcher in our scheme that you cannot attribute to talent. Given the overall softness of our scheme, I have little doubt that it is intentional. Scared of the CB getting beat at the line. ***** ****.

 

[JHallCanes]

A few of us noticed this going back to last year but were blasted by the board for hating on the coaches.

It's just another head-scratcher in our scheme that you cannot attribute to talent. Given the overall softness of our scheme, I have little doubt that it is intentional. Scared of the CB getting beat at the line. ***** ****.

It was too easy last year to simply point at our lack of pressure and place all the blame there. It all filters down they say.

As we have actually performed a bit better on the field, the flaws actually became more and more evident. Now that the DL has become non existent again, we are looking at the same thing as last season.

 

[canecountry3]

I'd rather the DBs not play press man when a guy like AJ Highsmith is the guy playing over the top.

 

[miamifan007]

Not always, there are times where we lined up between 3-5 yards off the receiver, and I watched intently looking for a bump from our corners. The McAffrey play stood out to me because Gunter is like twice his size and I figured he could manhandle him at the line. Sadly, it didn't happen.

Noticed this as well. It seemed like in the 1st drive of the game we changed our philosophy, then on the 2nd drive went right back to it.

 

[Coach Macho]

Gunter was right where he needed to be he just didn't turn his head and play the ball. He looked like a slapdick that had never played corner.

 

[skyman]

Any time anything bad happens we go in a shell and right back into conservative, hope they mess up and drop a pass on 3rd down, keep everything in front of you, passive defense. We rarely get aggressive. Playing Press is aggressive, not miami defense at the moment.


Hey we covered the crossing routes, guysm!! Progress!!

while giving up 350 to Duke... sigh

 

[DeadPoets]

We covered the crossing routes because Duke didn't have to pass the ball.

Golden sounded like an idiot when talking about crossing routes etc etc.

This dude isn't much of an X's & O's guy. Just an amazing recruiter.

 

[cane33]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

 

[Tano]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

So what kind of idea is playing the same exact defense but eliminating the press component, leaving your corners playing on the line without the benefit of trying to hinder/alter the receiver's route?

 

[NVA CANE]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

Because not pressing has been so successful right?

 

[NVA CANE]

A few of us noticed this going back to last year but were blasted by the board for hating on the coaches.

It's just another head-scratcher in our scheme that you cannot attribute to talent. Given the overall softness of our scheme, I have little doubt that it is intentional. Scared of the CB getting beat at the line. ***** ****.

This is the answer these coaches don't trust the players to execute.

 

[CaneTime01]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

So what kind of idea is playing the same exact defense but eliminating the press component, leaving your corners playing on the line without the benefit of trying to hinder/alter the receiver's route?

I noticed it last year and again on the same play you reference. I am a believer in press man (bump and run) coverage. However, IMO there is no reason to play man at the line of scrimmage if you aren't going to bump the WR. Why we press up but don't bump is beyond comprehension. You have to disrupt the timing of the play. If your going to give a free release, just play 10 yards off which I hate

 

[AUcane]

I've often wondered why we don't jam more in press coverage. Isn't disrupting routes one of the key tenants to stopping/slowind down a spread passing game?

This goes back to the Shannon years - our CBs would often line up right in front of the WR but allow the WR to get off the LOS cleanly....no jamming. I don't understand that philosophy at all. Can someone help shed light?

 

[Tano]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

So what kind of idea is playing the same exact defense but eliminating the press component, leaving your corners playing on the line without the benefit of trying to hinder/alter the receiver's route?

I noticed it last year and again on the same play you reference. I am a believer in press man (bump and run) coverage. However, IMO there is no reason to play man at the line of scrimmage if you aren't going to bump the WR. Why we press up but don't bump is beyond comprehension. You have to disrupt the timing of the play. If your going to give a free release, just play 10 yards off which I hate

That's really all I'm wondering. It's like we're only incorporating half of the technique.

 

[cane33]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

So what kind of idea is playing the same exact defense but eliminating the press component, leaving your corners playing on the line without the benefit of trying to hinder/alter the receiver's route?

Because if we play press and the receivers beat the jam our safeties are not good enough to cover it. Combine that with a QB having all day to throw, you're basically giving up an automatic TD every time if you miss the jam.

 

[TexasCane90]

Playing press man when you have horrible safeties and your front four generates zero pass rush? ....yeah great idea.

So what kind of idea is playing the same exact defense but eliminating the press component, leaving your corners playing on the line without the benefit of trying to hinder/alter the receiver's route?

Because if we play press and the receivers beat the jam our safeties are not good enough to cover it. Combine that with a QB having all day to throw, you're basically giving up an automatic TD every time if you miss the jam.

Well the way our has played it's worth a shot cause ***** already in the toilet