what Gus can become..

[zone3cane]

Gus Edwards only has to work on pad level at the point of contact its not like he has to change his running style.... he runs like a beast is suppose too.

I think he brings more to the table then a straight bull dozer type of back like LaGarette Blount b/c he is very athletic, shifty, and can make you miss.

 

[88]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

 

[zone3cane]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

 

[LUcanesfan]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

I'm not a football coach, but I assume it is a mixture of both. Sometimes "bad habits" are hard to break because a person's natural instincts come through. This happens if a person is tired (and/or under extreme pressure or is flustered) and their brain is running off of muscle memory. However, with good coaching, a player can practice and develop good habits in order to play a position properly to utilize their talents to the best of their ability.

In Gus' case, lowering his pads will help him to avoid injury, and to get low to gain more yards. The FAU game was the prime example of why he needs to work of lowering his pads. In football, the low man usually wins. Even if he is tackled at the point of contact, his lower center of gravity will help him to fall forward for extra yards.

 

[bacane]

Can't speak to who plays with better pad level, but don't know that Gus will ever be in a league with Todd Gurley. Praise you Jesus, if he is.

 

[drifters1234]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

re: Lattimore, how so? the knee getting shredded is what did him in.

 

[zone3cane]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

re: Lattimore, how so? the knee getting shredded is what did him in.

I'm saying the main reason why he keeps getting his knees blown out is b/c he never protects himself and one of the main ways RBs do that is by making sure they keep their "pad level" low at the point of contact.

If you look at Lattimore's running style,the way he runs w/ his legs so far away from his body, and the fact that when he is about to get hit, he never protects himself, leaving his legs wide open to get targeted he was destined to have a severe injury.

 

[blackvern]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

Really? You seem to be knowledgeable on this but why does Gus run so high when trying to run somebody over? If he has good pad level shouldbt he get lower?

 

[ADELPHI]

The only reason why I brought up the Gus' pad level is because I don't want the kid to be a sitting duck back there like Eddie George.

The only RB I didn't mind running upright was James Stewart. Dude was like 6-3, 235, ran 4.4 in the 40, and ran like a deer. Does anyone remember him from the 90s? Dude was one of my favorites.

James was a great athlete. I watched him play in highschool at Vero Beach High. Never went down on first contact and very shifty for a big guy.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Blount is a finesse runner for his size.

While Gus is shifty, I'd like to see him as a power runner, a guy who wears down the D.

Larry Csonka?

 

[zone3cane]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

Really? You seem to be knowledgeable on this but why does Gus run so high when trying to run somebody over? If he has good pad level shouldbt he get lower?

he still a work in progress and he is always going to have a up right running style like TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley, but i just think that he has shown the ability to get low at times, others not so much.

I believe he will always be inconsistent w/ his pad level but i think the situation where he was on the goalline i got stood up at FAU was more of a learning experience..... as long as he can become consistent at lowering his pad level when it comes to situations in games like a 3rd and short or goal line situation then he will be fine.

 

[TheMatador]

The only reason why I brought up the Gus' pad level is because I don't want the kid to be a sitting duck back there like Eddie George.

The only RB I didn't mind running upright was James Stewart. Dude was like 6-3, 235, ran 4.4 in the 40, and ran like a deer. Does anyone remember him from the 90s? Dude was one of my favorites.

And a major underachiver. Maybe that was due to the coaching staff at the time, I don't know.

Didn't he end up in prison?

By the way, why did Gus decommit from Syracuse?

 

[LUcanesfan]

The only reason why I brought up the Gus' pad level is because I don't want the kid to be a sitting duck back there like Eddie George.

The only RB I didn't mind running upright was James Stewart. Dude was like 6-3, 235, ran 4.4 in the 40, and ran like a deer. Does anyone remember him from the 90s? Dude was one of my favorites.

And a major underachiver. Maybe that was due to the coaching staff at the time, I don't know.

Didn't he end up in prison?

By the way, why did Gus decommit from Syracuse?

Gus decommitted from Syracuse because their HC at the time left to coach the Buffalo Bills. Gus has a good relationship with Coley and he already favored Miami, so he decided to come to Miami. I'm glad he did.

As for Stewart, he did go to jail for drug related charges. IDK his status now... I wasn't aware of him being an underachiever. If he was one, it might have to do with him playing under Dennis Erickson. Remember Dennis was a player's coach, like Coker.

 

[zone3cane]

By the way, why did Gus decommit from Syracuse?

James Coley

 

[blackvern]

The only reason why I brought up the Gus' pad level is because I don't want the kid to be a sitting duck back there like Eddie George.

The only RB I didn't mind running upright was James Stewart. Dude was like 6-3, 235, ran 4.4 in the 40, and ran like a deer. Does anyone remember him from the 90s? Dude was one of my favorites.

James was a great athlete. I watched him play in highschool at Vero Beach High. Never went down on first contact and very shifty for a big guy.

I dated his girlfriend at FSU, dam she was fine... I remember her having pictures of this fool all in her dorm room.. She let me eat the ***** but never let me hit,,*** that bytch

 

[Canes82]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

first let me just say, Gus Edwards naturally plays w/ better pad level then TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley does right now.

and to answer ur question, i think its more natural..... If you look at a big running back like James Wilder Jr, who is an athletic freak, he naturally gets his shoulder lower then the defender almost every time he runs. the way he does it is crazy to me b/c he is able to almost get as low as the ground and still keep his balance running through the middle..... i think the way Wilder does it, is very rare for a running back his size.

But you see Adrian Peterson run and he is very inconsistent w/ his pad level...... also Marcus Lattimore had absolutely terrible pad level which is one of the reasons why his career is almost over.

re: Lattimore, how so? the knee getting shredded is what did him in.

I'm saying the main reason why he keeps getting his knees blown out is b/c he never protects himself and one of the main ways RBs do that is by making sure they keep their "pad level" low at the point of contact.

If you look at Lattimore's running style,the way he runs w/ his legs so far away from his body, and the fact that when he is about to get hit, he never protects himself, leaving his legs wide open to get targeted he was destined to have a severe injury.

Good posts.

 

[canedotcom]

If memory serves, he underachieved and split to the pros after junior year.

 

[Consigliere]

I think he has a bunch of skills and could be a big time back for us. He hits the hole well, he runs pretty quick and is powerful. I just think he needs to work on some of his fundamentals, especially near the endzone. He cannot run the ball so high.

 

[capefearcane]

Is pad level something you continuously see improved with coaching or is it more nateral?

I'm not a football coach, but I assume it is a mixture of both. Sometimes "bad habits" are hard to break because a person's natural instincts come through. This happens if a person is tired (and/or under extreme pressure or is flustered) and their brain is running off of muscle memory. However, with good coaching, a player can practice and develop good habits in order to play a position properly to utilize their talents to the best of their ability.

In Gus' case, lowering his pads will help him to avoid injury, and to get low to gain more yards. The FAU game was the prime example of why he needs to work of lowering his pads. In football, the low man usually wins. Even if he is tackled at the point of contact, his lower center of gravity will help him to fall forward for extra yards.

Probably one of the reasons they sent Gus into the line on goal - it's a teaching moment.

 

[capefearcane]

insert where appropriate - into the line on consecutive try's...