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305407cane said:
Miami smu and Clemson all don’t play each other which is crazy. 3 way tie for the conference game? Is tie breaker margin of victory against common opps? Could get dicy. Pitt and Virginia will lose for sure
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Thought tiebreaker was ranking, but honestly have not looked at it and wouldn't surprise me if the ACC has some stupid metric they use.

Edit: this is what I found with a 3 way tie:

  1. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents.
  2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams.
  3. Win-percentage versus all common opponents.
  4. Win-percentage versus common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win-percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish.
  5. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.
  6. The tied team with the highest ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
  7. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner of Commissioner’s designee.
4 and 5 are going to be a weird way to decide it. Common conference opponents for all 3 will be FSU and UL, I think. So 5 is essentially best winning percentage for your conference opponents. If your conference opponents all stink you'll likely be out. Pitt should really help Clemson and SMU there.

Not sure I am interpreting it correctly though.
 
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305407cane said:
Miami smu and Clemson all don’t play each other which is crazy. 3 way tie for the conference game? Is tie breaker margin of victory against common opps? Could get dicy. Pitt and Virginia will lose for sure
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I think it’d come down to combined win percentage of your conference opponents.

So keep rooting for cal, VT, Louisville, Syracuse etc
 
MikeCane18 said:
Thought tiebreaker was ranking, but honestly have not looked at it and wouldn't surprise me if the ACC has some stupid metric they use.

Edit: this is what I found with a 3 way tie:

  1. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents.
  2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams.
  3. Win-percentage versus all common opponents.
  4. Win-percentage versus common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win-percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish.
  5. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.
  6. The tied team with the highest ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
  7. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner of Commissioner’s designee.
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Yup. If all 3 teams went 8-0, it’d go down to #5.
 
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Need Clemson loss, GATECH win, Stanford loss, Cal win, Louisville win, Cuse win
 
Bird4um said:
Need Clemson loss, GATECH win, Stanford loss, Cal win, Louisville win, Cuse win
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MikeCane18 said:
Thought tiebreaker was ranking, but honestly have not looked at it and wouldn't surprise me if the ACC has some stupid metric they use.

Edit: this is what I found with a 3 way tie:

  1. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents.
  2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams.
  3. Win-percentage versus all common opponents.
  4. Win-percentage versus common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win-percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish.
  5. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.
  6. The tied team with the highest ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
  7. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner of Commissioner’s designee.
4 and 5 are going to be a weird way to decide it. Common conference opponents for all 3 will be FSU and UL, I think. So 5 is essentially best winning percentage for your conference opponents. If your conference opponents all stink you'll likely be out. Pitt should really help Clemson and SMU there.

Not sure I am interpreting it correctly though.
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Definitely wriiten to give the reader an ice cream freeze headache.

If dealing with say a tie of 1 loss teams it is likely that steps 1-3 will sort it out.

I think the issue is if there are 3 undefeated teams steps 1-4 don't do anything. That drops us to step 5 which as you point out is determined if you played bad teams or really bad teams.

Hard to imagine 3 undefeated teams but certainly not impossible. If it did happen, I'd expect to see 3 acc teams in the playoffs.
 
Bird4um said:
Odds on SMU going to ACC?
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I don't see any odds on that, but to win the championship

UM and Clem basically co favorites at around +125 to +170 depending on the site. Quite a bit of variation

SMU +550

Pit +3500 ish
UVA +6000 ish

Louisville actually 4th fav around +2000
 
NCCanefan said:
I don't see any odds on that, but to win the championship

UM and Clem basically co favorites at around +125 to +170 depending on the site. Quite a bit of variation

SMU +550

Pit +3500 ish
UVA +6000 ish

Louisville actually 4th fav around +2000
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I’d bet them going. Not winning.
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
Louisville plays Miami at home
Play @ Clemson
Play Pitt home
Beat Ga Tech
Do not play FSU
Do not play Syracuse

Clemson plays LVille at home
Play @ Va Tech
Play @ Pitt
Do not play Ga Tech
Do not play Syracuse
do not play Miami
do not play SMU
Beat FSU

Miami plays LVille away
FSU @ home
Beat Va Tech
Do not play Clemson
Do not play SMU
Do Not play Pitt
Miami DOES play @ Syracuse and @ Ga Tech

SMU plays Pitt at home
Beat FSU
Beat LVille
Do not play Clemson
Do not play Miami
Do not play Ga tech
Do Not play Va Tech
Do not play Syracuse
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SMU schedule is so **** weak. They really set them up this year
 
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Bird4um said:
That ain’t good
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They don’t play anyone. They will be favored from here on out. I don’t think they are good but they have one of the weakest schedules in America.

I think Miami has to go undefeated to make it to the ACC championship game and out of the ACC they have the hardest schedule left in my opinion.

At Louisville, Syracuse and Ge Tech all still left.

Then you still have your rival in fsu where anything came happen.
 
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