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I posted it the minute they brought him back, instantly the whole “ culture “ nonsense went out the window. People here couldn’t get past the talent, they couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
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Upon Further Review- Rhett Lashlee
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I posted it the minute they brought him back, instantly the whole “ culture “ nonsense went out the window. People here couldn’t get past the talent, they couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
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Thanks for your effort Lance. I'm trying not to get swept away again. It's not quite working tho......
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Really appreciate your insights.
In Lashlee's offense, would the pre-read be (along with WR reading same thing) high safety? stcked box? CB's using D'No technique of playing 15 yds off WRs, etc?
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I’ll try write up a little mock playbook to demonstrate some of what I’m saying (Lashlee will be more intricate in real life as he knows more than I do).
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So, this is one of the plays that I highlighted often as one Lashlee loves. This is called Ace, Smash, Whip from a 2 x 2 set. The QB has a "pre-snap" read on this play where he decides his side of the field based on matchups. Perhaps they're shading a S more to one hash, or perhaps they have a shutdown CB on one side, or perhaps you have a favorite receiver in this concept.
So the QB has already made his decision which side he's going to before the play starts. This is why sometimes you'll hear announcers say things like "he stared it down the whole time." Yes, he did. On purpose. Because he had that side of the field as his read in that play.
From here, he's reading what the boundary CB is doing (the guy covering X or Z). If he drops back in off-coverage, your read #1 goes away immediately. The reason is because he can undercut that corner route if you throw it. This is why I wrote it's really two reads into one because he's reading the CB to determine which option he is taking. If the boundary plays the slant (which is what a Whip looks like before the receiver breaks back outside) then you are taking the corner. The receiver in that situation has to run straight at the S (who will generally be 8-10 yards off the ball against this receiver) and force the S to do what is called a "stem" (stand up out of his backpedal). Once he stems, the receiver goes to the corner. The QB is throwing to a spot in this route, so he can throw it flatter if he needs to, or further towards what would be the back pylon in an end zone throw. It's up the receiver to go get it.
Now, the defense can do some things to combat this, of course, otherwise everyone would just run the play every play. Cover-4 takes away the corner, and then the OLB can do what is called "buzzing the flats" which is immediately sprinting to that flat area and undercutting the Whip route. At that point the QB has to recognize the LB buzzing and go to the checkdown, which is read 3. In that case, the RB is 1-on-1 with a MLB in open space and should win.
A good cover-2 defense can also shade the OLB and "carry" the H or Y receiver 8-10 yards (to get him to the S) and take away the inside. That allows the S to play the corner since the OLB has the inside for the post. At that point the QB has to take the Whip if it's open, or the checkdown. It still gets your RB on a MLB in open space and you should win that more than not.
A final wrinkle that the offense can do is to run an RPO and if you get that MLB on the RB, he becomes a lead blocker against the MLB and you have the QB running with a lead and a numbers advantage in the box. It's a play I love, but didn't see when Lashlee was at SMU.
If you run this out of Trips, your Pre-Snap read is not which side of the field, but whether or not you are going to throw to the single WR side. If not, that route becomes a decoy and is no longer part of your reads Post-Snap.
This play is called Ace Z Levels. Again out of 2 x 2. Again, the QB has a Pre-Snap read to determine where he is going to go with the ball. If he has the right coverage (single-high S) or press coverage with a shade S to the opposite hash, this is an automatic throw to the X. You take your deep shots generally determined prior to the ball being snapped in this offense.
Once the ball is snapped for this play, the offense is attacking short, medium, deep (which is why it's called "Levels"). For this play, the first read is the shallow cross from the Z receiver. The QB takes a 5-step drop and his eyes go to the flat defender on the left side (since that's where the shallow is headed). If the flat defender is buzzing, dropping, or just covering, the QB goes to read 2. The Dig route. The Dig route is a very important route in the Air-Raid offense and is one the receiver has to run full speed because it's timing for two different windows. The first window is the left side of the MLB. The second window is on the other side of the MLB as the receiver keeps running. The QB would need to be sure he has time to get to that second window rather than going to his third read.
The QB would not get to that third read unless he sees the S coming down to take away the Dig route. If he comes down to take away the Dig, then the QB knows he has the Post and it's what you dream of.
If the QB doesn't have any of those routes he will come down to the checkdown, which is read 4 on this play. Need a good OL to run this play, but Peyton Manning has called this play and "Layers" his favorite routes because it stretches the defense to cover every inch of the field.
This is called Ace Mesh. This play gets its name because the two crossers create a "mesh" point where they mesh together in their routes. The defense calls it a pick play, of course.
The Pre-Snap read is again which side of the field the QB sees the better matchup on. His first read is that corner route again. Air-Raid offense love to attack the corner route because it is difficult for defenses to stop. Same situation, where if it is covered the QB comes down to read 2, which is the mesh point. You're just looking to see which one gets separation from the mesh.
In this picture the 3rd read is the swing pass. You saw a gif of this play in my write-up. Only there, the edge defender jumped the swing pass and the RB turned it into a wheel, which is awesome. The play can be designed to be a swing pass, or a wheel route.
Additionally, if the QB loves the matchup of the RB on whichever edge defender is out there, he can make that his "Pre-Snap" read and just wait for the other routes to clear it out for him and hit the wheel.
This is Ace Sprint with Smash. You can do different things with your Z receiver in this route, this is a hitch which must be run to the sideline to keep spacing for your Y to run his corner route. The QB is just reading the boundary CB again on this play. The picture is more simple than what Lashlee runs because he likes for that H to run a Dig route and get across the QB's vision if he needs to throw back to hit a receiver. You saw a couple of stills of this play in my write-up where the QB missed the H on one and hit him on another.
This is one of the plays in the playbook where the RB is designed to block on the play.
Last one I'll do real quick, this is called Trips left Comebacks. The Pre-Snap read for the QB on this play is the Safety or Safeties. If they have a single-high S, you read the middle seam as your 1st read. If it is any other coverage Pre-Snap, you are reading your Deep Comeback as your 1st read. Most QB's don't have the ability to read both Comebacks, and will come off of it after the first one and move to the seam or middle seam.
After that, the last option is checkdown or scramble.
I hope this helped explain a little bit more about what I was trying to say in my initial article @Empirical Cane
So the QB has already made his decision which side he's going to before the play starts. This is why sometimes you'll hear announcers say things like "he stared it down the whole time." Yes, he did. On purpose. Because he had that side of the field as his read in that play.
From here, he's reading what the boundary CB is doing (the guy covering X or Z). If he drops back in off-coverage, your read #1 goes away immediately. The reason is because he can undercut that corner route if you throw it. This is why I wrote it's really two reads into one because he's reading the CB to determine which option he is taking. If the boundary plays the slant (which is what a Whip looks like before the receiver breaks back outside) then you are taking the corner. The receiver in that situation has to run straight at the S (who will generally be 8-10 yards off the ball against this receiver) and force the S to do what is called a "stem" (stand up out of his backpedal). Once he stems, the receiver goes to the corner. The QB is throwing to a spot in this route, so he can throw it flatter if he needs to, or further towards what would be the back pylon in an end zone throw. It's up the receiver to go get it.
Now, the defense can do some things to combat this, of course, otherwise everyone would just run the play every play. Cover-4 takes away the corner, and then the OLB can do what is called "buzzing the flats" which is immediately sprinting to that flat area and undercutting the Whip route. At that point the QB has to recognize the LB buzzing and go to the checkdown, which is read 3. In that case, the RB is 1-on-1 with a MLB in open space and should win.
A good cover-2 defense can also shade the OLB and "carry" the H or Y receiver 8-10 yards (to get him to the S) and take away the inside. That allows the S to play the corner since the OLB has the inside for the post. At that point the QB has to take the Whip if it's open, or the checkdown. It still gets your RB on a MLB in open space and you should win that more than not.
A final wrinkle that the offense can do is to run an RPO and if you get that MLB on the RB, he becomes a lead blocker against the MLB and you have the QB running with a lead and a numbers advantage in the box. It's a play I love, but didn't see when Lashlee was at SMU.
If you run this out of Trips, your Pre-Snap read is not which side of the field, but whether or not you are going to throw to the single WR side. If not, that route becomes a decoy and is no longer part of your reads Post-Snap.
This play is called Ace Z Levels. Again out of 2 x 2. Again, the QB has a Pre-Snap read to determine where he is going to go with the ball. If he has the right coverage (single-high S) or press coverage with a shade S to the opposite hash, this is an automatic throw to the X. You take your deep shots generally determined prior to the ball being snapped in this offense.
Once the ball is snapped for this play, the offense is attacking short, medium, deep (which is why it's called "Levels"). For this play, the first read is the shallow cross from the Z receiver. The QB takes a 5-step drop and his eyes go to the flat defender on the left side (since that's where the shallow is headed). If the flat defender is buzzing, dropping, or just covering, the QB goes to read 2. The Dig route. The Dig route is a very important route in the Air-Raid offense and is one the receiver has to run full speed because it's timing for two different windows. The first window is the left side of the MLB. The second window is on the other side of the MLB as the receiver keeps running. The QB would need to be sure he has time to get to that second window rather than going to his third read.
The QB would not get to that third read unless he sees the S coming down to take away the Dig route. If he comes down to take away the Dig, then the QB knows he has the Post and it's what you dream of.
If the QB doesn't have any of those routes he will come down to the checkdown, which is read 4 on this play. Need a good OL to run this play, but Peyton Manning has called this play and "Layers" his favorite routes because it stretches the defense to cover every inch of the field.
This is called Ace Mesh. This play gets its name because the two crossers create a "mesh" point where they mesh together in their routes. The defense calls it a pick play, of course.
The Pre-Snap read is again which side of the field the QB sees the better matchup on. His first read is that corner route again. Air-Raid offense love to attack the corner route because it is difficult for defenses to stop. Same situation, where if it is covered the QB comes down to read 2, which is the mesh point. You're just looking to see which one gets separation from the mesh.
In this picture the 3rd read is the swing pass. You saw a gif of this play in my write-up. Only there, the edge defender jumped the swing pass and the RB turned it into a wheel, which is awesome. The play can be designed to be a swing pass, or a wheel route.
Additionally, if the QB loves the matchup of the RB on whichever edge defender is out there, he can make that his "Pre-Snap" read and just wait for the other routes to clear it out for him and hit the wheel.
This is Ace Sprint with Smash. You can do different things with your Z receiver in this route, this is a hitch which must be run to the sideline to keep spacing for your Y to run his corner route. The QB is just reading the boundary CB again on this play. The picture is more simple than what Lashlee runs because he likes for that H to run a Dig route and get across the QB's vision if he needs to throw back to hit a receiver. You saw a couple of stills of this play in my write-up where the QB missed the H on one and hit him on another.
This is one of the plays in the playbook where the RB is designed to block on the play.
Last one I'll do real quick, this is called Trips left Comebacks. The Pre-Snap read for the QB on this play is the Safety or Safeties. If they have a single-high S, you read the middle seam as your 1st read. If it is any other coverage Pre-Snap, you are reading your Deep Comeback as your 1st read. Most QB's don't have the ability to read both Comebacks, and will come off of it after the first one and move to the seam or middle seam.
After that, the last option is checkdown or scramble.
I hope this helped explain a little bit more about what I was trying to say in my initial article @Empirical Cane
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I like that the emphasis is get it out quickly but definitely not dink and dunk. He pushes the ball downfield.
This kind of offense should finally excite the South Florida kids. It should also simplify things for the QB's. Doing that will let them get the ball out faster, making the OL look better by default. It's the offense people have been screaming for Miami to use for years.
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Lashlee on leaving Auburn ‘hardest decision I’ve made’; takes $250K pay cut at UConn
Former Auburn OC Rhett Lashlee is taking a significant pay cut to coach in a new region of the country for the same job.
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Interesting drastic the jump in Red Zone efficiency when Lashlee took over play calling at Auburn.
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Levels with a Lo-Hi read?...I thought it was a Hi-Lo read? Reason being, if you go from Lo to Hi, by the time you get to your Hi read, Y's gonna outrun your arm.
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This particular route concept is intended to get the ball to the Z on the shallow cross (hence the play name).
As with a lot of play designs, you have routes to hold coverage and force the defense to defend.
That said, it’s a quick read. You’re reading the flat defender to the left. If it’s not there, you’re on to the next. If the Dig isn’t there, it’s on to the next.
I’m sure other schemes will teach it differently and use the shallow as an outlet rather than primary, but this particular air-raid play (which I highlighted in my write-up as a play Lashlee actually ran against Memphis) this is the read progression.
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Now when you say quick read, do you mean pre-snap read? If so, I can see that...but if it's post snap, I'm just not seeing the QB progressing from the crossing route, to the dig, to the post.
Like I said, the Y's either gonna outrun the QB's arm, or it turns into a scramble drill...especially if our OL plays like last season.
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Let me preface this question by saying I've never coached or played organized football at any level, so forgive my ignorance. That said, wouldn't any play where a QB is really only making one or two pre-snap reads and is simplified for the QB also invite defenses to disguise those reads and lull the QB into poor decisions? How do defenses approach disguising their coverages in defending this type of offense? Did you see any instances of that in what you've looked at from Lashlee's offense?
Appreciate your efforts.
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@Lance Roffers first of all, great stuff. We all really appreciate these detailed breakdowns. Second, how would you say Lashlee's offense differs from the offense Kendal Briles tried to run at FSU last year? The question behind the question is are we setting ourselves up for disappointment by thinking a new offensive scheme is the silver bullet for fixing this team? Why will Lashlee succeed under the same circumstances where Briles failed?
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There are tons of variations on any play. If your goal is to throw a deep pass, you can structure the reads differently. My intention here was to break down the specific play I showed in my review. On that play, the route progression was as stated (low-to-hi). The still should have a time stamp of the game replay, so you can pull it up and decide if I have it wrong (which is absolutely possible, I'm not infallible).
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Of course. That's the whole goal of disguising your coverage. I showed one instance where Lashlee was fooled on a check with me in my break down.
Offense is trying to make the reads simple to make things fast and get the ball out quickly. The defense is trying to bait the QB into seeing it wrong and making a bad play.
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Anyone who is expecting an OC change to magically fix everything will be disappointed, yes.
The OC (and any coach) can only call plays, design plays, etc. that match skill sets and put players in a position to succeed.
It doesn’t matter if there is an opening on the middle seam because the FS jumped the post and the MLB jumped the hook zone if your QB won’t throw over the middle.
For this to work, players need to execute and study better. Coaches need to call plays that fit their players. S & C needs to get the players in shape.
I do believe this move better fits what we have for personnel and better positions us for recruits, but it isn’t a cure-all.
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I saw it.
The #1 receiver ran a deep route, the #2 receiver ran a 12-15 yd. out., and the #1 receiver on the other side ran a crossing route.
Not trying to be argumentative, but the read was the deep route, the 12-15 yd. out, and the crosser...basically hi-lo.
It was also kind of a horizontal stretch, outside-in.
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My youngest's HS team ran a variation of this play, they called it boot right. They taught it as a Lo-Hi read, too...told my Son to read it Hi to Lo, first time they ran it, boom, TD!!!
Everyone here hated it when Coley had Kaaya doing it all the time.
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