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Upon Further Review- Rhett Lashlee

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Thanks for your effort Lance. I'm trying not to get swept away again. It's not quite working tho......

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Andrew said:
@Lance Roffers are you timing how long the QB holds the ball to get your sample or do you have another source for the data?
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PFF has data on “time to throw.”

Synced my timing mechanism to match them on pro games and then times my samples of 50 each team and used a formula to get sample mean as a representation of the entire population.

Got the 2.5 second metric from ESPN’s “Pass Rush Win” rate being measured as holding block for 2.5 seconds is a win. Less than is a loss for the OL.
 
Lance Roffers said:
PFF has data on “time to throw.”

Synced my timing mechanism to match them on pro games and then times my samples of 50 each team and used a formula to get sample mean as a representation of the entire population.

Got the 2.5 second metric from ESPN’s “Pass Rush Win” rate being measured as holding block for 2.5 seconds is a win. Less than is a loss for the OL.
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Ok, so you got the NFL data from PFF and timed the college throws?
 
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Lance Roffers said:
GIF's


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  • Run game is based on numbers in almost all cases. If the box is light, it’s right. If the box is full, pull.
  • Miami is going to need to recruit WR’s who can get separation.
  • Hopefully whoever is the WR coach next year is good at teaching WR’s/TE’s how to stem a DB because in the smash concept it’s a must.
  • Truthfully, there is more two-TE and bunch type of formations than I expected. This isn’t a true space-and-pace offense, but rather a hybrid of things that Lashlee has picked up along the way. Hopefully he has mastered what better defenses will do to counter his go-to plays because Miami does not have the OL to compensate for the need for more time.
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Data is great...even better when paired with Root Cause Analysis.

Miami's OL is awful and what made them even worse was WR unit lack of separation and dropped passes (magnified by lack of separation for easy catches).

Now, you mentioned previously Miami's 3+ sec avg "get the ball out" time. At face value, getting the ball out quicker should help the OL...and it will.

HOWEVER, lack of WR separation is already easier for DBs to cover and now the ball come out quicker meaning DBs have to cover even less, or can jump routes more aggressively for picks.

Unless BOTH OL amd WR issues are solved, I suspect Lashlee's system will lead to quicker 3-outs than Penos the Aenos...and placing even more strain on Miami's D.

Thoughts????
 
Lance Roffers said:
Sort of.

I Synced my process with their data. Once I had the sync where our times matched, I then compiled my own times for college.
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Ouch, timing random samples sound painful. I was hoping you had some secret source of easily consumable college stats. :(
 
Your analysis regarding the QB split second ball release differences between our team and SMU is very telling. Our QB holding the ball longer on average explains why the OL had problems protecting and blocking... an added pressure to a weak OL, and hence the high sack numbers and dismal offensive production. Enos really failed us monumentally.
 
miamifan007 said:
  • Have your offense get to LOS and then “Check with me”
This one is simple: college athletes have less experience, less free time, lower football IQ’s opposed to NFL players (on average), and are limited in the time they can spend with coaches each week. Why ask a college QB to get to the LOS, read keys, make play calls, then ask them to make necessary adjustments when your professional coach who spends 80 hours a week creating the plays and game plan can make the adjustments for your QB after reviewing the defensive setup.


This is critical. So many teams do it, except us.
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Awesome post.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
PFF has data on “time to throw.”

Synced my timing mechanism to match them on pro games and then times my samples of 50 each team and used a formula to get sample mean as a representation of the entire population.

Got the 2.5 second metric from ESPN’s “Pass Rush Win” rate being measured as holding block for 2.5 seconds is a win. Less than is a loss for the OL.
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I always used 2.5 seconds as a bench mark because I saw Norm Chow using a timer with a buzzer to train Vince Young to get the ball out quicker with the Titans
 
Empirical Cane said:
Data is great...even better when paired with Root Cause Analysis.

Miami's OL is awful and what made them even worse was WR unit lack of separation and dropped passes (magnified by lack of separation for easy catches).

Now, you mentioned previously Miami's 3+ sec avg "get the ball out" time. At face value, getting the ball out quicker should help the OL...and it will.

HOWEVER, lack of WR separation is already easier for DBs to cover and now the ball come out quicker meaning DBs have to cover even less, or can jump routes more aggressively for picks.

Unless BOTH OL amd WR issues are solved, I suspect Lashlee's system will lead to quicker 3-outs than Penos the Aenos...and placing even more strain on Miami's D.

Thoughts????
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Not necessarily, based on a lot of this breakdown a lot of the reads are on the same side and if they aren't open you hit the check down or possibly take off which hopefully some good things can happen and you pick up a couple of yards and get to the next play.
 
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TOcane said:
Not necessarily, based on a lot of this breakdown a lot of the reads are on the same side and if they aren't open you hit the check down or possibly take off which hopefully some good things can happen and you pick up a couple of yards and get to the next play.
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So...Lashlee scheme is check 1, check 2, dump to RB, QB run?

Simple. I can live with it if moves the ball and keeps Miami D off the field amd rested.
 
I was hoping for dance metrics and clapping analytics... u know, more up to speed as Manures analytics expertise... but instead get this useful ****! WTF!

But for real...Appreciate all the time and effort Lance! Good stuff! Much appreciated and I’m sure I speak for most here on CIS
 
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Empirical Cane said:
So...Lashlee scheme is check 1, check 2, dump to RB, QB run?

Simple. I can live with it if moves the ball and keeps Miami D off the field amd rested.
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This is what I have wanted since Richt.

An emphasis on getting rid of the ball quickly as opposed to waiting for routes to develop or reading the entire field.

When we commit to a quick release, good things happen for us. Then we randomly abandon it for stuff we can’t block or that the quarterback isn’t comfortable reading.
 
brock said:
Went through a whole season without running a single audible lol... even when dbs showed blitz and walked up to the line, nope just ran the called play. That was a simpleton *** offense man smh
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I forget did Pastor have audibles?
 
Empirical Cane said:
Lance???
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The thing with this offense is he gives the QB a pre-snap read on most plays. This might sound fairly obvious, but if the pre-snap read isn’t there, that’s it for that read, so post-snap it’s not something the QB has to worry about.

So a play can have “four reads” but really it’s two reads to the QB. The QB has his pre-snap read (often times a deep route). Then post-snap he has two reads. The fourth “read” is just a check down, so it’s not something the QB is deciding on.

That’s why the offense is easy for the QB, but still able to give lots of options and be effective.
 
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