Travis Hunter Live Commitment

Barstool Sports (which Deion is an employee of) and some gambling website is.


It's not a "gambling website". Penn National Gaming is a publicly-traded casino company that owns/operates over 40 casinos nationwide. They might ALSO have a website, but their primary business is brick-and-mortar casinos.

Penn ALSO owns 36% of Barstool Sports. So, yeah, there is also THAT.
 
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It's not a "gambling website". Penn National Gaming is a publicly-traded casino company that owns/operates over 40 casinos nationwide. They might ALSO have a website, but their primary business is brick-and-mortar casinos.

Penn ALSO owns 36% of Barstool Sports. So, yeah, there is also THAT.

Just wondering, how does this make financial sense for Barstool?
 
God forbid a black University comes out on top naw we need the " good ole schools" to have it all
@caneallday21 dumbest post of the day. take off your racist glasses. nobody gives a f*** at the color of the skin. I thought we were about diversity? why not go play for a school with a more diverse team? get more experiences? enjoy more culture? you can't have it both ways.
 
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sec schools have been paying kids millions for years
That's what i'm saying LOL. All of sudden college football is ruined because Jackson State came up on the #1 recruit. Money been tossed around in this sport for decades. Why would he not wanna go to Jackson State over FSwho. Jackson State went 11-1, on ESPN every other week, had rappers in the locker room, got the same dope gear as P5 school, can swag how they want go look at JSU social media. They hopping off the plane in ATL today rocking gold chains, embracing the culture. Not to mention he will be the man on campus with all those beautiful black women walking around that campus. SIGN ME UP!
 
I know we don’t have Canes fans in here upset that FSU lost the #1 ranked player in the Nation now do we???

Do yall not see how this is actually a GREAT thing? This levels the playing field...

Before NIL, a kid like Travis Hunter would’ve taken under the table bags to Bama, UGA or Clemson.

But now because of NIL, ANYBODY can sign ANYBODY... What does that mean for Miami? PUT THE MONEY UP & GET THE RECRUITS, it’s that simple, that’s the formula.

This is not “ruining college football”, this is lifting the veil off the farce of amateur athletics & taking the seedy undercover bag culture that permeated college recruiting & putting it out in front on the table.

If you think this is the first time a player has gotten paid before, you’re either 5 years old or the most naive adult on Earth. Players have been getting paid since the 80’s, you think they gave SMU the Death penalty for handing out lollipops & ice cream??? They were buying T-Top Trans Am’s back then, wtf you think been going on all this time?

NIL is the Grand equalizer, you can’t be mad there’s Free agency in college football when coaches are getting 10 year $90-100million dollar deals, lets stop the charade as if CFB isn’t a multi-Billion dollar enterprise, why can’t the labor benefit from it too?

Very rarely do i disagree with your takes LCE, but this is one of those rare exceptions. Completely agree with bullet #1. Nothing brings me more joy than watching FSU suffer. Today has been beautiful for that. Complete agree with the next point about the seedy undercover bag culture in SEC and other top programs. However, that bag game was only for a smaller percentage of recruits per year and/or smaller payouts and it will still CONTINUE in the NIL age. Let's not fool ourselves, kids will still get paid on top of the NIL money.

With NIL, you see nobodies on Texas's 3 deep getting paid for pancakes. They haven't even proven they can block a scout team kid yet but are being paid. That's not lifting a veil. That's going down a slippery slope. What makes those 15 players different than the 3-deep guy at Iowa or Vandy? Will you occasionally see a Hunter situation? Sure.....we just did. Will it be the norm or really change things? I doubt it, at least not without a lot of additional "shady payments" from outside sources like Barstool. The return on investment for many of the deals wouldn't pass the sniff test as a normal company investment from a P&L standpoint. If revenue doesn't match contribution for many of these companies and they fade, we'll be left with the same big paying schools as before.

Let me circle back for a second. I'm against the high coaching salaries as much as the pay-tp-play college free agency and portal stuff. HC's making $10M? Ridiculous. A position coach simply on staff to recruit is routinely paid more than doctors. Makes perfect sense to me. That's a much longer discussion for another time.

I SUPPORT the NIL stuff as it pertains to true NIL intent.....jersey sales, video game likeness, autographs, maybe a speaking engagement or something (fair market value payment), etc. I do feel the kids lying their body on the line deserve something, even if i am a college athletics purist. That type of NIL activity embraces the school/sport, promotes hard work to be great and is linked to true on-field success. I also support mandatory contributions for medical care and injury insurance to help protect players' future. It's a violent contact sport and should have those included, since the sport has the profits to support it.

I am NOT in support of being paid by non-profits to do nothing, paid by gambling websites to do nothing, paid by boosters to do nothing except sign the dotted line. That's not NIL nor a level playing field for college athletics. Professional, "open-market" sports have more limits, rules, boundaries and fairness to them. This activity promotes more shady dealings (as far back as high school), serving self interest for short-term gains, and promotes more effort off field than on, which is a disservice to the team and game itself.

We have complained collectively as fans for years that college football results should not be dictated by which schools cheat the most. Instead of fixing that, we are embracing NIL? Not me. College football results should also not be based on which schools have the shadiest NIL boosters or booster contacts. For those who have negged my other posts, have at it.....
 
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What does Barstool have to do with Jackson State?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Deion do so free advertising work for any of their media companies.

that or maybe he donated the money to them and they gave it back in the form of an NIL..?
 
Very rarely do i disagree with your takes LCE, but this is one of those rare exceptions. Completely agree with bullet #1. Nothing brings me more joy than watching FSU suffer. Today has been beautiful for that. Complete agree with the next point about the seedy undercover bag culture in SEC and other top programs. However, that bag game was only for a smaller percentage of recruits per year and/or smaller payouts and it will still CONTINUE in the NIL age. Let's not fool ourselves, kids will still get paid on top of the NIL money.

With NIL, you see nobodies on Texas's 3 deep getting paid for pancakes. They haven't even proven they can block a scout team kid yet but are being paid. That's not lifting a veil. That's going down a slippery slope. What makes those 15 players different than the 3-deep guy at Iowa or Vandy? Will you occasionally see a Hunter situation? Sure.....we just did. Will it be the norm or really change things? I doubt it, at least not without a lot of additional "shady payments" from outside sources like Barstool. The return on investment for many of the deals wouldn't pass the sniff test as a normal company investment from a P&L standpoint. If revenue doesn't match contribution for many of these companies and they fade, we'll be left with the same big paying schools as before.

Let me circle back for a second. I'm against the high coaching salaries as much as the pay-tp-play college free agency and portal stuff. HC's making $10M? Ridiculous. A position coach simply on staff to recruit is routinely paid more than doctors. Makes perfect sense to me. That's a much longer discussion for another time.

I SUPPORT the NIL stuff as it pertains to true NIL intent.....jersey sales, video game likeness, autographs, maybe a speaking engagement or something (fair market value payment), etc. I do feel the kids lying their body on the line deserve something, even if i am a college athletics purist. That type of NIL activity embraces the school/sport, promotes hard work to be great and is linked to true on-field success. I also support mandatory contributions for medical care and injury insurance to help protect players' future. It's a violent contact sport and should have those included, since the sport has the profits to support it.

I am NOT in support of being paid by non-profits to do nothing, paid by gambling websites to do nothing, paid by boosters to do nothing except sign the dotted line. That's not NIL nor a level playing field for college athletics. Professional, "open-market" sports have more limits, rules, boundaries and fairness to them. This activity promotes more shady dealings (as far back as high school), serving self interest for short-term gains, and promotes more effort off field than on, which is a disservice to the team and game itself.

We have complained collectively as fans for years that college football results should not be dictated by which schools cheat the most. Instead of fixing that, we are embracing NIL? Not me. College football results should also not be based on which schools have the shadiest NIL boosters or booster contacts. For those who have negged my other posts, have at it.....
Well said, 100% in agreement.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Deion do so free advertising work for any of their media companies.

that or maybe he donated the money to them and they gave it back in the form of an NIL..?
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Very rarely do i disagree with your takes LCE, but this is one of those rare exceptions. Completely agree with bullet #1. Nothing brings me more joy than watching FSU suffer. Today has been beautiful for that. Complete agree with the next point about the seedy undercover bag culture in SEC and other top programs. However, that bag game was only for a smaller percentage of recruits per year and/or smaller payouts and it will still CONTINUE in the NIL age. Let's not fool ourselves, kids will still get paid on top of the NIL money.

With NIL, you see nobodies on Texas's 3 deep getting paid for pancakes. They haven't even proven they can block a scout team kid yet but are being paid. That's not lifting a veil. That's going down a slippery slope. What makes those 15 players different than the 3-deep guy at Iowa or Vandy? Will you occasionally see a Hunter situation? Sure.....we just did. Will it be the norm or really change things? I doubt it, at least not without a lot of additional "shady payments" from outside sources like Barstool. The return on investment for many of the deals wouldn't pass the sniff test as a normal company investment from a P&L standpoint. If revenue doesn't match contribution for many of these companies and they fade, we'll be left with the same big paying schools as before.

Let me circle back for a second. I'm against the high coaching salaries as much as the pay-tp-play college free agency and portal stuff. HC's making $10M? Ridiculous. A position coach simply on staff to recruit is routinely paid more than doctors. Makes perfect sense to me. That's a much longer discussion for another time.

I SUPPORT the NIL stuff as it pertains to true NIL intent.....jersey sales, video game likeness, autographs, maybe a speaking engagement or something (fair market value payment), etc. I do feel the kids lying their body on the line deserve something, even if i am a college athletics purist. That type of NIL activity embraces the school/sport, promotes hard work to be great and is linked to true on-field success. I also support mandatory contributions for medical care and injury insurance to help protect players' future. It's a violent contact sport and should have those included, since the sport has the profits to support it.

I am NOT in support of being paid by non-profits to do nothing, paid by gambling websites to do nothing, paid by boosters to do nothing except sign the dotted line. That's not NIL nor a level playing field for college athletics. Professional, "open-market" sports have more limits, rules, boundaries and fairness to them. This activity promotes more shady dealings (as far back as high school), serving self interest for short-term gains, and promotes more effort off field than on, which is a disservice to the team and game itself.

We have complained collectively as fans for years that college football results should not be dictated by which schools cheat the most. Instead of fixing that, we are embracing NIL? Not me. College football results should also not be based on which schools have the shadiest NIL boosters or booster contacts. For those who have negged my other posts, have at it.....
But it was ok when Quinn Evers got that bag to leave high school early right?
 
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From a business standpoint, this is going to be terrible for Barstool. The real money to these NIL deals for the company is marketing to and capturing the casual college football fan. The casual fan doesn't know and will not know who Travis Hunter is. It doesn't matter how good he is at the college level, he will get no publicity. Jackson St games will not be shown on national television unless they play midweek. The casual fan knew who Sam Ehlingher was and I bet he would be a lot more valuable at Texas as a 6th round pick than potential #1 pick Travis Hunter from JSU.
Actually, I believe that Jackson St. was on one of the ESPN networks on a couple of Saturday's since they've started showing HBCU games.
 
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