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Transfer Season 2018

gogeta4 said:
Thats whats currently taken place. Keep in mind these are the bad optomist coaches now holding the power as they are striving for the high school coach jobs currently. The 7 on 7 crap makes it worse...but its currently a free for all in south florida. Legitimately how can you even build a program..as the minute you get the younger kids offers, st thomas or others come knocking. I have never in my life seen this amount of kids leave Archbishop Mcarthy for places like MNW and St thomas...Like what?? Archbishop Mcarthy is getting poached. Mcarthur won like 1 game last year and got poached for 4 of their best players. **** im surprised they fought back and recruited back. Hallandale has been Carol City's JV for the last 3 years...its crazy lol
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Funny you say this. Although I'm not down there anymore a few of my buddies are still at WHS, so I keep tabs on what's going on. (your boy Chop is out there)
They just lost a Freshman CB (who has offers) to Heritage last week.
Lost a 6'5" WR (with offers) to Piper.
However, they gained a QB and LB from Arch Bishop and WR's from BA and Ely. (and a handful more kids transferred in as well)
It's literally...like you said...a free for all down there.
Programs are losing kids and gaining kids at the same time. I guess it comes down to losing/gaining the right ones.
They lost a D1 Corner but gained a D1 Quarterback. I'd take that trade any day.
It's almost like the NFL free agent period now. It's silly.

And it really has nothing to do with winning either. You shouldn't lose anybody after having the best season in school history.
Has nothing to do with offers either.
Fact of the matter is, today's front-running generation simply can't turn down an offer from the "cool schools" like STA and AHS. It's about status with a lot of them. They wanna be able to say "I am going/transferring to Saint Thomas" on social media.

**** is crazy to me. It does NOT go down like that over here on the West coast. I think one of the major reasons is that we don't have that whole 7-on-7 culture over here. That culture is filled with leaches.
 

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DB4 said:
McArthur fought back bc they have a new head coach and I heard they have a coach or two on their staff with connections.

This whole thing is what I like to call microwave coaches. Just get players every offseason and hope it works. Not very many oven coaches that may take a few years to develop and then the program is solid for years to come.

I saw on another message board that Marc Britt went to Miami Christian bc the Champagnat OC went there. Not sure if true but just what I saw.
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My mentor and HC is an "oven" coach through and through. We've always taken roughly 2/3 years to get a program going in the right direction.
I literally cannot fathom being a microwave coach. I cannot bring myself to hang-out at 7-on-7 events and blow a bunch of high school kids.
You either wanna play for me/us or you don't.

But that's what these guys do.

It's gotten to the point where staffs are being assembled with 1 or 2 coaches that are considered your ace recruiters. (just like college)
They're the ones who know all of the kids and usually have ties to the optimist programs.

Every staff I've been on has had at least one coach like this.
 
If you accept a Head Coaching job in South Florida today, you better know someone with ties to the optimist programs or the 7-on-7 culture.
If not, good luck. #UphillBattle
 
Coach Macho said:
Funny you say this. Although I'm not down there anymore a few of my buddies are still at WHS, so I keep tabs on what's going on. (your boy Chop is out there)
They just lost a Freshman CB (who has offers) to Heritage last week.
Lost a 6'5" WR (with offers) to Piper.
However, they gained a QB and LB from Arch Bishop and WR's from BA and Ely. (and a handful more kids transferred in as well)
It's literally...like you said...a free for all down there.
Programs are losing kids and gaining kids at the same time. I guess it comes down to losing/gaining the right ones.
They lost a D1 Corner but gained a D1 Quarterback. I'd take that trade any day.
It's almost like the NFL free agent period now. It's silly.

And it really has nothing to do with winning either. You shouldn't lose anybody after having the best season in school history.
Has nothing to do with offers either.
Fact of the matter is, today's front-running generation simply can't turn down an offer from the "cool schools" like STA and AHS. It's about status with a lot of them. They wanna be able to say "I am going/transferring to Saint Thomas" on social media.

**** is crazy to me. It does NOT go down like that over here on the West coast. I think one of the major reasons is that we don't have that whole 7-on-7 culture over here. That culture is filled with leaches.
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The crazy thing about the kid that transferred from Western to Piper is that he never played a down of regular season football at Western. He was at Ely last season. And the Piper head coach was at Western watching their spring game too. Very crazy stuff.
 
DB4 said:
The crazy thing about the kid that transferred from Western to Piper is that he never played a down of regular season football at Western. He was at Ely last season. And the Piper head coach was at Western watching their spring game too. Very crazy stuff.
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Exactly! LOL

FWIW, I've got buddies at both schools (Ely & Western) and neither staff is going to miss him.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Exactly! LOL

FWIW, I've got buddies at both schools (Ely & Western) and neither staff is going to miss him.
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I went to watch them at the spring game. Kid didnt impress me. I thought he’d be way more dominant with his size but he was just okay.

Semi sidenote but the Piper head coach has a lot of enemies in the county. Everyone is recruiting but it seems like he’s real out there with contacting kids. All that to still wind up finishing behind Deerfield Beach in that district.
 
Coach Macho said:
My mentor and HC is an "oven" coach through and through. We've always taken roughly 2/3 years to get a program going in the right direction.
I literally cannot fathom being a microwave coach. I cannot bring myself to hang-out at 7-on-7 events and blow a bunch of high school kids.
You either wanna play for me/us or you don't.

But that's what these guys do.

It's gotten to the point where staffs are being assembled with 1 or 2 coaches that are considered your ace recruiters. (just like college)
They're the ones who know all of the kids and usually have ties to the optimist programs.

Every staff I've been on has had at least one coach like this.
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Macho as a coach I refuse to blow kids and its why I went from a 4A program to 2A. I want to get back to teaching again. Not babysitting! Parents are terrible to talking **** behind your back to administration even if you win.
 
DB4 said:
I went to watch them at the spring game. Kid didnt impress me. I thought he’d be way more dominant with his size but he was just okay.

Semi sidenote but the Piper head coach has a lot of enemies in the county. Everyone is recruiting but it seems like he’s real out there with contacting kids. All that to still wind up finishing behind Deerfield Beach in that district.
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That was my buddy's complaint after having him all spring. Played soft despite his size. Didn't fight for the ball.

Piper hiring that guy as their HC is a microcosm of how junkyard South FLA high school football is. Literally NOBODY can be ruled out of getting an HC job, even if you have a pending assault charge on a minor for striking one of your players at Taravella.

I feel like South FLA high school football is one big low budget commercial for a buy-here/pay-here car dealership.

"Are you a female tow truck driver and reality TV star?"
"Former leader of a rap group that had hit songs called "Pop Dat *****" and "Face Down *** Up"?
"Have you been fired from your 3 previous coaching jobs?"
"Ever been charged with assaulting a former player?"
"Don't worry! South Florida high school football has got a place for you!"
"Instant approval!"
 
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What's funny is Piper is doing this. I went to Piper, I played at Piper and we always had our players taken by St Thomas. This was the late 90s and early 2000s so it wasn't like it is now, but we would have 3-4 kids a year leave for St Thomas who definitely didn't have the financial means to pay for it. St Thomas always had that pull even back then, though a lot of kids stayed at Piper. Seems like everyone took the St Thomas approach and now it's a schit show.
 
I don’t get the gripes. Transfers in south Florida have been going on since before I was in high school & I graduated in 99.

All of the same schools today getting transfers have always been getting transfers since I was in high school.

Some coaches got it..some don’t.
 
Tee3000 said:
I don’t get the gripes. Transfers in south Florida have been going on since before I was in high school & I graduated in 99.

All of the same schools today getting transfers have always been getting transfers since I was in high school.

Some coaches got it..some don’t.
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I graduated in 2006 from Western and I’ll say that yes, there were transfers back then. But not at near the rate it is now. Back then the FHSAA didn’t make it as easy to transfer either.
 
DB4 said:
I graduated in 2006 from Western and I’ll say that yes, there were transfers back then. But not at near the rate it is now. Back then the FHSAA didn’t make it as easy to transfer either.
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Social media is popular now so I believe that tends to make us feel like it's more rampant today but I truly believe it's just about the same as when I was in high school.
 
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pumbaa said:
Seems like everyone took the St Thomas approach and now it's a schit show.
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Then why is there only one STA? Why aren't there dozens of schools with the same AD for 35 years and same principle for 40+ years that have 10 state championships and the most players in the NFL?
 
Mark Little said:
Then why is there only one STA? Why aren't there dozens of schools with the same AD for 35 years and same principle for 40+ years that have 10 state championships and the most players in the NFL?
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Here you go with this pu$$y hurt schit again anytime someone say something about STA you come out the wood work.. They all started recruiting, and an AD for 35 years, most high schools didn't even have a full time AD then they had a coach or counselor who ran it. St Thomas has recruited kids for decades, stop being so soft shouldered about STA.
 
Tee3000 said:
I don’t get the gripes. Transfers in south Florida have been going on since before I was in high school & I graduated in 99.

All of the same schools today getting transfers have always been getting transfers since I was in high school.

Some coaches got it..some don’t.
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It’s gotten worse imo especially now with the new rules in place
 
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DB4 said:
I graduated in 2006 from Western and I’ll say that yes, there were transfers back then. But not at near the rate it is now. Back then the FHSAA didn’t make it as easy to transfer either.
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I will agree with this we always had 3-4 kids a year, now its like who rosters flip yearly and kids will play at 2-3 high schools in 4 years. I think the FHSAA had their hands tied due to Columbus, AH, STA, Chaminade, and other private schools being able to "recruit" with free or limited tuition for their private schools, the public schools were getting upset. Also as TRE said social media has helped mold the attention of "look at me I'm committed to a high school", and lastly the 7on7 teams and handlers have added to the dysfunction of SFLA HS football.
 
There’s a kid I’ve seen on social media who is a very short defensive tackle, not a highly recruited kid at all. Freshman year he was at Mater, sophomore year at Doral, this year he’s at Champagnat. Just insane.
 
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