Top 5 Juniors with the Probability they go Pro

I'd put Henderson at 60%, he still has some character and work ethic concerns that could hurt his stock, and a complete season at the college level would make him a lot more money. Still he might leave.

If Porter leaves he's lost his **** mind. His durability is a bright red flag next to his name. He'd need to prove at the college level that he's capable of staying healthy and being productive if he wants to get out of the 5th-6th round.
 
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Morris is another guy who can make a lot of money by coming back. He's got a great arm, got good size, and was productive in spurts last year. But he still had accuracy issues, decision making was poor at times (especially in the red zone), and has to show a better overall command of the game. One more offseason and I think Morris will make that leap and make some money.
 
Morris is another guy who can make a lot of money by coming back. He's got a great arm, got good size, and was productive in spurts last year. But he still had accuracy issues, decision making was poor at times (especially in the red zone), and has to show a better overall command of the game. One more offseason and I think Morris will make that leap and make some money.

it's inconceivable to me that morris would even consider coming out early. i doubt he would get drafted.
 
Morris is another guy who can make a lot of money by coming back. He's got a great arm, got good size, and was productive in spurts last year. But he still had accuracy issues, decision making was poor at times (especially in the red zone), and has to show a better overall command of the game. One more offseason and I think Morris will make that leap and make some money.

it's inconceivable to me that morris would even consider coming out early. i doubt he would get drafted.

With his size, arm, and experience he would definitely get drafted. Measurables are extremely overrated by NFL teams, how else would Tannehill get into the top 10?
 
In all seriousness, how many games has porter even played.. 10 maybe?

All Golden has to say is 'remember Marcus Forston' and that alone should make his *** stay...

JC
 
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Porter, Henderson, and Hurns are thinking about it, I'm sure. Linder and Morris are already getting ready for next year.
 
Henderson and Porter are gone.

Henderson wanted to go pro out of HS. Kid has no desire to play college football. He will be an excellent pro if he wants to be.

Porter has no choice. The guy is finally "healthy". His draft stock will actually be diminished if he stays for another year regardless of whether he gets hurt or not. Odds are he will not be able to make it through season. They know his injury history....one more year of college ball means one less year in what will be a short NFL career.
 
Porter has no choice. The guy is finally "healthy". His draft stock will actually be diminished if he stays for another year regardless of whether he gets hurt or not. Odds are he will not be able to make it through season. They know his injury history....one more year of college ball means one less year in what will be a short NFL career.

Seriously?
 
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Seantrel will get drafted and become a star somewhere.

He's a top 10 talent, and if he comes back might go top 5. Unfortunately, I think if he leaves now he still might end up in the 1st round, 2nd at worst. Guy is freakishly athletic for his size. Someone will take a chance on him.
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me why Linder is being included in this group. He's an interior guy that would be lucky to move up draft boards. What's the upside for him? Is there a "Linder hates the coaches" story I missed?

And, Hurns?! WTF kind of world is this when Allen Hurns is thinking about leaving early.
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me why Linder is being included in this group. He's an interior guy that would be lucky to move up draft boards. What's the upside for him? Is there a "Linder hates the coaches" story I missed?

I like him a lot and I could see him being a 4th rounder this year. He can play center or guard and that is valuable on an NFL roster (where they have less lineman then college).
 
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RE: Henderson.

He has a load of potential...but when I look at results so far and watch Henderson and put him side-by-side with some of the top tackles in the nation, it just doesn't compute with saying this guy is a first or second round player right now.

Watch some Luke Joeckel or Jake Matthews and try and tell me those guys would grade out similarly to Henderson RIGHT NOW.
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me why Linder is being included in this group. He's an interior guy that would be lucky to move up draft boards. What's the upside for him? Is there a "Linder hates the coaches" story I missed?

I like him a lot and I could see him being a 4th rounder this year. He can play center or guard and that is valuable on an NFL roster (where they have less lineman then college).

Shiiiat. If you were back on Canestime premium board, you'd know I was once his biggest fan. I think he's the best technician along the line. But, he's an interior guy with some slight possibility of being kicked outside. The risk of leaving is so far outweighed by the benefits of staying that I simply do not understand. I said the same thing for Streeter and Washington last year. Linder is the type of guy who'll find a spot for 8 years in the NFL. If he leaves early, I think he's no better than a 5th rounder and probably a 6th rounder this year. If he stays, dominates and collects more accolades, he can pretty much double his signing bonus and length of first contract as a late 3rd rounder.
 
RE: Henderson.

He has a load of potential...but when I look at results so far and watch Henderson and put him side-by-side with some of the top tackles in the nation, it just doesn't compute with saying this guy is a first or second round player right now.

Watch some Luke Joeckel or Jake Matthews and try and tell me those guys would grade out similarly to Henderson RIGHT NOW.

All of this. I still think he leaves, though. And, i'm ok with it.
 
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RE: Henderson.

He has a load of potential...but when I look at results so far and watch Henderson and put him side-by-side with some of the top tackles in the nation, it just doesn't compute with saying this guy is a first or second round player right now.

Watch some Luke Joeckel or Jake Matthews and try and tell me those guys would grade out similarly to Henderson RIGHT NOW.

It's possible, I can't say because I haven't seen those guys. I will say this, he will test off the charts. All he needs is for some coach to see 6'8 340lb mountain with ridiculous feet and say "I can turn this guy into my LT for the next 10 years"
 
RE: Henderson.

He has a load of potential...but when I look at results so far and watch Henderson and put him side-by-side with some of the top tackles in the nation, it just doesn't compute with saying this guy is a first or second round player right now.

Watch some Luke Joeckel or Jake Matthews and try and tell me those guys would grade out similarly to Henderson RIGHT NOW.

I actually looked them up and watched some film. Very good players. The only thing I will say is that both those guys would look like TE's next to Seantrel.
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me why Linder is being included in this group. He's an interior guy that would be lucky to move up draft boards. What's the upside for him? Is there a "Linder hates the coaches" story I missed?

I like him a lot and I could see him being a 4th rounder this year. He can play center or guard and that is valuable on an NFL roster (where they have less lineman then college).

Shiiiat. If you were back on Canestime premium board, you'd know I was once his biggest fan. I think he's the best technician along the line. But, he's an interior guy with some slight possibility of being kicked outside. The risk of leaving is so far outweighed by the benefits of staying that I simply do not understand. I said the same thing for Streeter and Washington last year. Linder is the type of guy who'll find a spot for 8 years in the NFL. If he leaves early, I think he's no better than a 5th rounder and probably a 6th rounder this year. If he stays, dominates and collects more accolades, he can pretty much double his signing bonus and length of first contract as a late 3rd rounder.

I am not advising he leaves but he is a very good lineman and can move around (flexibility). He still will grow a little too. I could see him being a 4th round but I don't think he is considering leaving the program at this point.
 
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