Thomas making visit to FSU per Warchant (Updated 12/27)

[jerzeycane]

The sane and rational thing is to EXPECT, that a fickle 18 year old kid, is going to sign with us, just because? It is one thing if the kid said this was his dream school, committed early and has been recruiting for us since. A Duke Johnson situation. Instead, this kid, who is NOT some clown or troll, has been thoughfully weighing his options, and enthusiastically visiting other schools, while only schduling a mid week visit, late in the game, to the "hometown" school, which you insist he's a LOCK to. And despite coming from a pipeline feeder school, and his family all wanting him here, the kid has yet to give any clear indication that he's going to come here in the end. And lets not ignore the fact that the two time defending National Champs are hot and heavy after him too.

But F8ck it, lets ignore all the danger signs, and just ASSUME he's ours, just becuase, I mean he's a Miami kid, and they never flake out and go elsewhere right?

COme on MANE. All this guy said was, the last week, and getting Coley has certainly helped us with the kid, but that may not be a done deal yet. And you SERIOUSLY dont think that's a rational or sane view? LOL. After all these years, its INEXCUSABLE for YOU of all people, to be sitting there acting like this kid is a lock, when he has NOT committed, is STILL taking other visits, and has NOT given any indication that he's just messing with people, etc... but rather all signs show that the kid really is undecided, and although we certainly have a good shot, it is by NO means a "lock".

****, didnt Mr. Uber Insider Random Walk give us about a 50-60% chance? Is that a Lock? Bakas seems to think its a UM vs Bama "battle", and for whatever you can say about them, they arent total morons who have never followed recruiting. So to act like anyone who doesnt dismiss this kid as a "LOCK" is being irrational, is just being ridiculous dude. You of all people should know this, you have followed this stuff long enough.

Yeah dude, just because. After all the reasons I laid out for you above, that have held true in South Florida recruiting for years, it's just because. Glad that's what you could take away from that. You're a **** porster.

OH you mean like Antone Smith was? Like PP was? Like Matt Patchan (A F*CKING LEGACY) was? Or how about Teddy B?

Smith is Pahokee...never did well there
PP got paid
Teddy B was in the middle of a coaching change

Patchan is the ONLY guy who fits the description and his mamma cried when he chose Ufag.

Most guys stay in Dade county. It's just historical fact. The outlier is not the "rational" point of view.

Matt Patchan was a redneck from Tampa. He didn't fill the bill at all. Parker didn't get paid; he genuinely liked FSU. Atlantic isn't in overtown. It isn't a UM feeder school. There really aren't that many UM fans up that way.

Think he's talking about Patrick Peterson

 

[CANE4LIFE]

The sane and rational thing is to EXPECT, that a fickle 18 year old kid, is going to sign with us, just because? It is one thing if the kid said this was his dream school, committed early and has been recruiting for us since. A Duke Johnson situation. Instead, this kid, who is NOT some clown or troll, has been thoughfully weighing his options, and enthusiastically visiting other schools, while only schduling a mid week visit, late in the game, to the "hometown" school, which you insist he's a LOCK to. And despite coming from a pipeline feeder school, and his family all wanting him here, the kid has yet to give any clear indication that he's going to come here in the end. And lets not ignore the fact that the two time defending National Champs are hot and heavy after him too.

But F8ck it, lets ignore all the danger signs, and just ASSUME he's ours, just becuase, I mean he's a Miami kid, and they never flake out and go elsewhere right?

COme on MANE. All this guy said was, the last week, and getting Coley has certainly helped us with the kid, but that may not be a done deal yet. And you SERIOUSLY dont think that's a rational or sane view? LOL. After all these years, its INEXCUSABLE for YOU of all people, to be sitting there acting like this kid is a lock, when he has NOT committed, is STILL taking other visits, and has NOT given any indication that he's just messing with people, etc... but rather all signs show that the kid really is undecided, and although we certainly have a good shot, it is by NO means a "lock".

****, didnt Mr. Uber Insider Random Walk give us about a 50-60% chance? Is that a Lock? Bakas seems to think its a UM vs Bama "battle", and for whatever you can say about them, they arent total morons who have never followed recruiting. So to act like anyone who doesnt dismiss this kid as a "LOCK" is being irrational, is just being ridiculous dude. You of all people should know this, you have followed this stuff long enough.

Yeah dude, just because. After all the reasons I laid out for you above, that have held true in South Florida recruiting for years, it's just because. Glad that's what you could take away from that. You're a **** porster.

OH you mean like Antone Smith was? Like PP was? Like Matt Patchan (A F*CKING LEGACY) was? Or how about Teddy B?

Smith is Pahokee...never did well there
PP got paid
Teddy B was in the middle of a coaching change

Patchan is the ONLY guy who fits the description and his mamma cried when he chose Ufag.

Most guys stay in Dade county. It's just historical fact. The outlier is not the "rational" point of view.

Matt Patchan was a redneck from Tampa. He didn't fill the bill at all. Parker didn't get paid; he genuinely liked FSU. Atlantic isn't in overtown. It isn't a UM feeder school. There really aren't that many UM fans up that way.

I was actually thinking about Patrick Peterson, not Preston Parker. Thanks for reminding me, there were TWO PPs we lost who we should have had, and ONE was actually F*CKING COMMITTED to us.

And Patchan was a legacy that had been recruited here the entire time. His father AND Uncle played here. Would have been like Chick saying "f8ck you" to us. He was even tight with Marve, and guys like you were running around talking about how "dont sweat it, he's a LOCK".

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Yeah dude, just because. After all the reasons I laid out for you above, that have held true in South Florida recruiting for years, it's just because. Glad that's what you could take away from that. You're a **** porster.

OH you mean like Antone Smith was? Like PP was? Like Matt Patchan (A F*CKING LEGACY) was? Or how about Teddy B?

Smith is Pahokee...never did well there
PP got paid
Teddy B was in the middle of a coaching change

Patchan is the ONLY guy who fits the description and his mamma cried when he chose Ufag.

Most guys stay in Dade county. It's just historical fact. The outlier is not the "rational" point of view.

Matt Patchan was a redneck from Tampa. He didn't fill the bill at all. Parker didn't get paid; he genuinely liked FSU. Atlantic isn't in overtown. It isn't a UM feeder school. There really aren't that many UM fans up that way.

Think he's talking about Patrick Peterson

Correct, but Parker was another fair point and Im glad he brought him up, as that was another one half the cats were declaring a "lock".

 

[jerzeycane]

The fact is that you are naming outliers and not the rule.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

The fact is that you are naming outliers and not the rule.

Brother who said anything about the rule? Im not saying Thomas is going to FSU. Im NOT saying we wont get him.

ALL I have said is, he's a VERY high profile kid that we are facing some STIFF competition for. And despite the fact that SO many factors should be pushing him here, he's still taking visits, has NOT committed, and has seemed generally intrigued by other schools. I DONT think its CRAZY, to express SOME concern about what he's going to do, at least until we get some CLEAR indication that he's made up his mind to stay home. My point in highlighting those other guys were, they were all highly recruited national big time kids, who supposedly loved UM, with families who loved UM, and people thought they were LOCKS to us, until they werent.

So to suggest that its INCONCEIVAVBLE that we lose Thomas, to ME, is being ridiculous. Because it is very MUCH conceivable. It has happened before. Im not saying its GOING to happen, but to act like it cant happen, is not living in reality IMO.

 

[PUNCICANE]

kind of exhausting for 6. Dude was in Cali this weekend, on visit to Miami during the week then off to FSU this weekend. I'd imagine his zero sunshine @ss is gonna wanna get the f@ck outta Trailerhassee after the first day.

 

[jerzeycane]

The fact is that you are naming outliers and not the rule.

Brother who said anything about the rule? Im not saying Thomas is going to FSU. Im NOT saying we wont get him.

ALL I have said is, he's a VERY high profile kid that we are facing some STIFF competition for. And despite the fact that SO many factors should be pushing him here, he's still taking visits, has NOT committed, and has seemed generally intrigued by other schools. I DONT think its CRAZY, to express SOME concern about what he's going to do, at least until we get some CLEAR indication that he's made up his mind to stay home. My point in highlighting those other guys were, they were all highly recruited national big time kids, who supposedly loved UM, with families who loved UM, and people thought they were LOCKS to us, until they werent.

So to suggest that its INCONCEIVAVBLE that we lose Thomas, to ME, is being ridiculous. Because it is very MUCH conceivable. It has happened before. Im not saying its GOING to happen, but to act like it cant happen, is not living in reality IMO.

That's not what you said. No one here said it was inconceivable. People have simply listed the valid and RATIONAL reasons as to why he would choose here and you implied with your initial post that it wasn't rational to think any other way. It's very rational to lean the history of dade county recruits who attended Booker T and it's really that simple.

 

[pcitycane]

da fug does this have to do with thomas visiting fsu>

 

[CANE4LIFE]

The fact is that you are naming outliers and not the rule.

Brother who said anything about the rule? Im not saying Thomas is going to FSU. Im NOT saying we wont get him.

ALL I have said is, he's a VERY high profile kid that we are facing some STIFF competition for. And despite the fact that SO many factors should be pushing him here, he's still taking visits, has NOT committed, and has seemed generally intrigued by other schools. I DONT think its CRAZY, to express SOME concern about what he's going to do, at least until we get some CLEAR indication that he's made up his mind to stay home. My point in highlighting those other guys were, they were all highly recruited national big time kids, who supposedly loved UM, with families who loved UM, and people thought they were LOCKS to us, until they werent.

So to suggest that its INCONCEIVAVBLE that we lose Thomas, to ME, is being ridiculous. Because it is very MUCH conceivable. It has happened before. Im not saying its GOING to happen, but to act like it cant happen, is not living in reality IMO.

That's not what you said. No one here said it was inconceivable. People have simply listed the valid and RATIONAL reasons as to why he would choose here and you implied with your initial post that it wasn't rational to think any other way. It's very rational to lean the history of dade county recruits who attended Booker T and it's really that simple.

No no no no no no no no SIr. Go back and read what I posted above. The guy made a post that basically said, we are in good shape with him, but it MAY not be a done deal YET. I said that was sensible analysis of the situation. WeOwn then come in and said it was NOT rational, and that the ONLY rational way to look at it, is that he's basically a LOCK, because he's local and his mother wants him here. Despite the fact that the kid has NOT committed, has continued to take visits, and hasnt given any clear indication that he's just messing around and is going to stay home. Again, I never said he WOULDNT come, nor that we dont have a good history at BTW, or any of that stuff. I simply agreed that its NOT a DONE DEAL yet, and history says that there ARE no DONE DEALS, until the LOI is faxed in. THAT is rational. I never said it was IRRATIONAL to think that we are in a good position with the kid, or any of that. But you cant just assume he's a LOCK, because he's local.

 

[jerzeycane]

Listen man, you wanna **** on every bit of good news or positive development, you are well within your right. Everyday it's something different with you.

- we aren't getting coley
- Jimbo will try to hire Cristobal
- we aren't going to reach a settlement with the NCAA

stop acting like somebody ****ed in your cereal every freakin morning

 

[PUNCICANE]

The fact is that you are naming outliers and not the rule.

Brother who said anything about the rule? Im not saying Thomas is going to FSU. Im NOT saying we wont get him.

ALL I have said is, he's a VERY high profile kid that we are facing some STIFF competition for. And despite the fact that SO many factors should be pushing him here, he's still taking visits, has NOT committed, and has seemed generally intrigued by other schools. I DONT think its CRAZY, to express SOME concern about what he's going to do, at least until we get some CLEAR indication that he's made up his mind to stay home. My point in highlighting those other guys were, they were all highly recruited national big time kids, who supposedly loved UM, with families who loved UM, and people thought they were LOCKS to us, until they werent.

So to suggest that its INCONCEIVAVBLE that we lose Thomas, to ME, is being ridiculous. Because it is very MUCH conceivable. It has happened before. Im not saying its GOING to happen, but to act like it cant happen, is not living in reality IMO.

That's not what you said. No one here said it was inconceivable. People have simply listed the valid and RATIONAL reasons as to why he would choose here and you implied with your initial post that it wasn't rational to think any other way. It's very rational to lean the history of dade county recruits who attended Booker T and it's really that simple.

sounds like Steve Buscemi trying to rationalize why he doesnt tip

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Listen man, you wanna **** on every bit of good news or positive development, you are well within your right. Everyday it's something different with you.

- we aren't getting coley
- Jimbo will try to hire Cristobal
- we aren't going to reach a settlement with the NCAA

stop acting like somebody ****ed in your cereal every freakin morning

I NEVER said we arent getting Coley. I expressed doubts and said I would feel a lot better if the info was coming from UM sources, not FSU sources, as those tend to just be ploys to get more money by assistant coaches. I NEVER said we werent going to get him. Go back and read that thread.

WHat is negative about saying Jimbo might try to to make Mario an offer? I never said Mario would take or or leave here. Was simply responding to a post where someone claimed he WAS going up there as an OC,and I simply said It wouldnt surprise me if Jimbo TRIED to get him. How is that negative?

On the settlement with the NCAA, that opinion is not exactly shocking, its what most observers of the NCAA believe. I said we should certainly OFFER it, I just dont think they will back down that easy. I ALSO said, that they might try to work some expedited solution out, with a minor penalty to us, just to be rid of it, but not CALL it a "settlement" so they can save face. There again, I dont think that is being negative. Just realistic.

Its like some of you guys dont want to have actual discussions, just a giant circle jerk where everyone wants to outdo eachother with more outrageous homerism. WE got guys here saying we should demand the NCAA pay us 2 million bucks and repay us for missing bowls that WE SELF IMPOSED. Im not trying to be overly negative, just realistic.

Here's an example.

I think we are in VERY Good Shape with:

Collins, Kirkland and Grace.

I think we are in good shape with Thomas, but I dont think this thing is over.

I dont think we are going to land Coley or Bryant. But I could be wrong on Bryant.

How is that overly negative? I think that is a very FAIR assessment of the situation.

 

[jerzeycane]

[video=youtube;Z-qV9wVGb38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38[/video]

 

[Ukcanes1]

This week and Coley has absolutely helped UM with 6 ... but don't think this is a done deal yet

Probably the most sane and rational view of the situation on this board in 2 days.

Prepare to be Negged.

How? How is that "sane and rational?"

No, the "sane and rational" view has ALWAYS been to expect this kid to sign with UM. His mom wants him here. The only school he could go to where his mother would get to see him play is UM, and he has said that he wants that. He's been to campus tons of times. He took an official visit here. He has routinely said that Miami is recruiting him the hardest of any school. Micheal Barrow has been on him forever. And Micheal Barrow would actually be his position coach in college, unlike Coley, who wouldn't even coach on the same side of the ball as Thomas. He goes to Booker T. Washington, a school that FSU has never signed a player from. A school whose coach used to be on staff on UM. Whose most notable player in the years before Matthew Thomas played at UM. And an assistant coach at that school ran track at UM. And, Micheal Barrow is personal friends with the head coach of that school. And now, the only reason he had interest in FSU is at UM. So no, the "sane and rational" view has always been that this kid ends up at UM, just like the "sane and rational" view was that Kenny Phillips would end up at UM even though Trooper Taylor did a great job recruiting him, just like James Coley did with Matthew Thomas. It's like you can't handle any "sane and rational" view that has things going extremely well for UM. Get out of here with that bull****. This stuff with Thomas is OVER.

Sane and rational rarely describes a 17/18/19 year old male let alone a star player involved in recruiting.
As a die-hard with zero ties to recruiting I HOPE 6 signs with UM but I can understand not rolling out the Cane lock type ish.

 

[Willz3317]

Any one read what he said about the OV ?? Don'y have membership to that site. The comments seem pretty good and he still playing it pretty cool. I really like that T. Howard was his host , he's a Cane.. IMO

 

[PUNCICANE]

Any one read what he said about the OV ?? Don'y have membership to that site. The comments seem pretty good and he still playing it pretty cool. I really like that T. Howard was his host , he's a Cane.. IMO

they have an article about his reaction to Coley coming to the U too.....

somebody thats not a cheap f@ck, like the majority of us, please give it up

 

[The Franchise]

 

[pcitycane]

this thread sucks

 

[Canes239]

i LIKE to capitalize random WORDS to GET my crappy points ACROSS

 

[BigCaneAl]

Listen man, you wanna **** on every bit of good news or positive development, you are well within your right. Everyday it's something different with you.

- we aren't getting coley
- Jimbo will try to hire Cristobal
- we aren't going to reach a settlement with the NCAA

stop acting like somebody ****ed in your cereal every freakin morning

+10000000....Amen, wtf is your problem?