The Work - Canes Camp #3

[terdferguson]

I was pretty worried about this season. But now that I know that we're bending well.......well that changes everything.

 

[Rellyrell]

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I know it's early, but this is shaping up nicely.

One thing is for certain. These guys have really committed in the off season. From everything I've read and heard in interviews the whole team is in great condition, there is tremendous leadership, excellent chemistry, and talent at every position throughout the 2 deep.

You have long time observers Zagacki and Bailey Jr., saying this team is extremely talented, conditioned, and driven.
We have a franchise qb.
We have Chad Thomas saying this is going to be the best defense in the country.
We have 6 good, with the potential to be great receivers.
A stable of good/great rb's.
10 O lineman.
2 deep on the d line and linebacker.
Howard, Burns, Elder at CB with Bush, Jenkins, Crawford, Carter at safety.

The haters are going to hate no matter what happens, but at the end of the year, don't be surprised if this team shocks everyone with how good they are.

yeah, lets fuggin hope so......

The horrible thing about the vocal minority of haters is that say we go 10-2, win the coastal, then win the ACCCG, then lose The Orange Bowl in a close game and finish 11-3, the haters will still say we suck.

If we go undefeated, and lose the national championship game, the haters will still say the coaches are terrible, they can't develop talent, they suck ****.

I've been a die hard since Saban was the coach here, and the reason the great seasons are great is because I still remember how getting to The Peach Bowl was an incredible success. The great seasons are great because of the hardship, heartbreak and turmoil in the years before.

Remember Jimmy's first year here? Inherited a National Championship team and went something like 8-5. If the internet was around then, the vocal minority would have been lambasting him as a hick piece of shiit loser, especially after the Penn State Fiesta Bowl.

Mark my word, good times are on the near horizon.

[MENTION=5532]rudebuddha[/MENTION]: so haters are those who expect better for this program?? Yeah, OK, buddy. First off, your JJ comparison is horrible and inaccurate at best. The fans on this board were in complete support of Golden his first couple of years here. He was more popular than many of the players. It wasn't until last year that we turned rabid on him. Why? B/c he tried to sneak out the back door for another school, and it was evident he didn't want to be here...hence we went 6-7.

It wasn't until he basically told the admin, f u, pay me or I'm not leaving vs. settling on a reasonable buyout that caused hatred. It wasn't until he used excuse after excuse vs. holding himself and his staff responsible that we turned on him. Again, why? B/c he has proven he's not a Miami guy.

You're right, better things are on the horizon, but mark my words, it won't be with Golden. You actually think Golden and his "circle" can win 10 games with less NFL talent and a harder schedule than last years???! Give, me a second and let me get you the deed to a bridge I'm selling in Idaho for the low, low price of $300k.

 

[brock]

This team has the talent to win 10 games period

In Optimist or Pop Warner?

future NFL players currently on the team

Artie Burns, Deon Bush, Joe Yearby, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, Jaquan Johnson, Mark Walton, Dobard, Grace, Carter, Waters, Gus Edwards, Berrios, AQM, Chad Thomas,
Malcolm Lewis, Wyche, Scott, Kaaya, Tyriq McCord, Chris Herndon, Corn Elder, Demetrius Jackson, Trent Harris, Kamalu, McDermott, Raphael Kirby, Darrion Owens, Danny Isidora, Sunny Odogwu, Nick Linder, Trevor Darling, Heurtelou, Moten.

I only included Walton and Jaquan Johnson from the true freshmen.

I'm not saying all these guys will get drafted, but I will say over half of them will get drafted, the rest will be UFA's.

That's a talented group of guys

We were arguably more talented last year and went 6-7. Our OL is a mess, with no depth. Our skill positions are as weak as I can remember. Why the optimism?

Gtfoh are skill positions are very good this year what are you talking about lol

 

[Jmhcane]

**When asked if there’s any chance Gerald Willis becomes eligible to play this season, Golden said, “I don’t think so. We are not counting on that. Just trying to get him indoctrinated and inclimated with what we want to do and how we want to do it.”

Al really means "We have to castrate him first"

Indoctrinate huh, fancy way of saying brain washed

The latter term was "inculcate". FYI.
I know I'll get slammed for this, but Golden is a very well-spoken guy. In a lot of the player interviews, most of these guys are pretty well-spoken, too.

 

[Jmhcane]

PLEEEZ

--Harris feels like the mentality of this year’s group is different from last year.

“We’ve been getting off the ball a lot more aggressively, just trying to get at the quarterback.”

 

[Canefam]

Hearing that Linder and Isidora are "dominating" is a good thing. I think Gall has the ability to be solid at LG. Then, whoever wins the LT job will be at least solid, and the one who loses out on the LT job will be our RT.

Having BCU and FAU at the top of our schedule helps out for the OL, we will get to gel together and keep battling it out in those 2 should be easy games.

Your a solid poster, keep contributing..

 

[VA_Cane_54]

Waters in space is scary! I like it!

 

[FrancisSawyer]

I know it's early, but this is shaping up nicely.

One thing is for certain. These guys have really committed in the off season. From everything I've read and heard in interviews the whole team is in great condition, there is tremendous leadership, excellent chemistry, and talent at every position throughout the 2 deep.

You have long time observers Zagacki and Bailey Jr., saying this team is extremely talented, conditioned, and driven.
We have a franchise qb.
We have Chad Thomas saying this is going to be the best defense in the country.
We have 6 good, with the potential to be great receivers.
A stable of good/great rb's.
10 O lineman.
2 deep on the d line and linebacker.
Howard, Burns, Elder at CB with Bush, Jenkins, Crawford, Carter at safety.

The haters are going to hate no matter what happens, but at the end of the year, don't be surprised if this team shocks everyone with how good they are.

yeah, lets fuggin hope so......

The horrible thing about the vocal minority of haters is that say we go 10-2, win the coastal, then win the ACCCG, then lose The Orange Bowl in a close game and finish 11-3, the haters will still say we suck.

If we go undefeated, and lose the national championship game, the haters will still say the coaches are terrible, they can't develop talent, they suck ****.

I've been a die hard since Saban was the coach here, and the reason the great seasons are great is because I still remember how getting to The Peach Bowl was an incredible success. The great seasons are great because of the hardship, heartbreak and turmoil in the years before.

Remember Jimmy's first year here? Inherited a National Championship team and went something like 8-5. If the internet was around then, the vocal minority would have been lambasting him as a hick piece of shiit loser, especially after the Penn State Fiesta Bowl.

Mark my word, good times are on the near horizon.

I have been a hardcore fan almost as long and remember that Peach Bowl well. You are quite wrong however to paint everyone who is down on this staff, program and administration with such a broad brush. Your comment about people complaining if we went 14-0 then lost in the National Championship game is just plain dishonest as is your attempt to compare the first year of JJ's tenure here with Al Tin's pathetic and excuse filled 4 years. Nice try but you lose credibility by going to such a ridiculous extreme.

Your beloved Al Tin has had 4 count them 4 years to show us what he is all about. 4 years to inspire the respect and the confidence of the fan base and what does your hero have to show for that? The exact statistics have been posted ad nauseum. Al Tin is a smooth talking used car salesman with absolutely no substance at all behind his schtick. The foul stench of his mediocrity emanates from every single crevice of this once proud program. Let me ask you an honest question Buddha. What has Al Tin ever shown you besides his meat pipe to lead you to believe that he is capable of coaching this team to 11 or 14 wins? We will all be hanging on the edge of our seats waiting. Poor Al Tin. He won 6 whole games last year with a plethora of NFL talent and us haters just don't appreciate it. That is basically what you are saying and it sounds ridiculous.

If he ends up turning it around and sustains success then I along with the vast majority of rational posters here will give him the credit he deserves. The bottom line is he hasn't shown himself to be anywhere near capable of doing that and keep in mind we have a 4 year sample size. You are correct in your assessment of this teams talent. I believe this is a very talented squad that should win 10 games at least especially considering the garbage schedule this year. I don't know how the heck Al Tin managed to get a stay of execution but he has a fantastic opportunity this year to prove his worth or at least some competence to us awful haters this year. Let's see what he does with it. You ask us to take your word that good times are on the horizon. Fine. We will hold you to that word.

 

[Coach Macho]

Where is this talent that you guys speak of?

The defense looks pretty good but who are our studs on offense other than Brad? Coley is a flake, we don't know what we're gonna get out of him. Waters is a good player but I wouldn't consider him a certified stud. Berrios has shown a little. Scott hasn't played football in 5 years. The O-line has lost 5 NFL players within the past 2 seasons. We're bare as ****. All of them are question marks. Edwards and Yearby have shown flashes but neither has shown us that they can be a stud. The other RB's are question marks. None of the TE's have shown anything yet.

People that say we have all this talent on offense are going off pure speculation IMO. At least we have depth and experience on defense. There's guys on defense that we can definitely say are studs cause we've seen it.

I'm not optimistic about this offense at all. They've sucked the past 2 seasons and they've been loaded with NFL guys.

 

[DJWilliams55]

Macho let's hear a little more about our switch in the spring to a 1 gap style.

I assume it's still a 3-4 but more like 4-3 Under. Kind of like a Wade Phillips style.

 

[We'retheBoss]

Golden likened the position to “Noah’s Ark”

The team may be Noah's Ark, but Golden and NoD are the global catastrophe.

 

[brock]

Where is this talent that you guys speak of?

The defense looks pretty good but who are our studs on offense other than Brad? Coley is a flake, we don't know what we're gonna get out of him. Waters is a good player but I wouldn't consider him a certified stud. Berrios has shown a little. Scott hasn't played football in 5 years. The O-line has lost 5 NFL players within the past 2 seasons. We're bare as ****. All of them are question marks. Edwards and Yearby have shown flashes but neither has shown us that they can be a stud. The other RB's are question marks. None of the TE's have shown anything yet.

People that say we have all this talent on offense are going off pure speculation IMO. At least we have depth and experience on defense. There's guys on defense that we can definitely say are studs cause we've seen it.

I'm not optimistic about this offense at all. They've sucked the past 2 seasons and they've been loaded with NFL guys.

You have to think we had a 1st round receiver, best tight end in the nation, one of the best running backs in the nation so they should have gotten at least50-60% of the offensive production in terms of yards in which they did. With that being said the offensive was clearly catered to them for the most part last year. The offense have some talented players who will show it once they become the featured part of the offense. It happens every year to ever team

 

[gacaneaddict]

The defense looks pretty good but who are our studs on offense other than Brad?

If the OL can give him any time that would be the reason. Most important position in the field.

 

[The Franchise]

We've been bending since Folden got here. I saw everyone bent over for the entire last 4 games of last season.

 

[blackvern]

To me its all about health.. You ****gots wanna be real let's be real.....Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year? Dorsett with all of his talent was neutered last year...Rashawn Scott is a better type WR for Kaayaa. Scott will lead this team in receptions if he stay healthy... Theres no reason COley cant put up Dorsetts numbers last year....For all the beast DOrsett was he had no lateral quickness.. We threw screens to him that amounted to nothing...Waters, Berrios, and COley are better at the screen game. Yall acting like Dorsett was our offense... He was an after thought most games.... Dorsett is not a loss to this offense whatsoever...I see no rason why we shouldnt have a better passing game then last year..Kaaya in 2nd year.. Yearby is just as good as DUke in the passing game.Now the run game Im holding my breath on

 

[Cane Dynasty]

To me its all about health.. You ****gots wanna be real let's be real.....Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year? Dorsett with all of his talent was neutered last year...Rashawn Scott is a better type WR for Kaayaa. Scott will lead this team in receptions if he stay healthy... Theres no reason COley cant put up Dorsetts numbers last year....For all the beast DOrsett was he had no lateral quickness.. We threw screens to him that amounted to nothing...Waters, Berrios, and COley are better at the screen game. Yall acting like Dorsett was our offense... He was an after thought most games.... I see no rason why we shouldnt have a better passing game then last year..Kaaya in 2nd year.. Yearby is just as good as DUke in the passing game.Now the run game Im holding my breath on

In all fairness he sure did keep those safeties back. That opened up much of the underneath stuff that Kaaya had so much success with. It will be interesting to see if Corley can scheme around not having that sure fire deep threat and safeties that will be playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

 

[blackvern]

To me its all about health.. You ****gots wanna be real let's be real.....Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year? Dorsett with all of his talent was neutered last year...Rashawn Scott is a better type WR for Kaayaa. Scott will lead this team in receptions if he stay healthy... Theres no reason COley cant put up Dorsetts numbers last year....For all the beast DOrsett was he had no lateral quickness.. We threw screens to him that amounted to nothing...Waters, Berrios, and COley are better at the screen game. Yall acting like Dorsett was our offense... He was an after thought most games.... I see no rason why we shouldnt have a better passing game then last year..Kaaya in 2nd year.. Yearby is just as good as DUke in the passing game.Now the run game Im holding my breath on

In all fairness he sure did keep those safeties back. That opened up much of the underneath stuff that Kaaya had so much success with. It will be interesting to see if Corley can scheme around not having that sure fire deep threat and safeties that will be playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

Meh I think keeping safeties back is overrated especially with Kaaya last year..... IMO teams came out to stop Duke not stop Dorsett... Skai Moore's people(Chad WIlson) Said that South Carolinas defensive game plan was to stop Duke and stop Duke only they were not worried about Kaaya beating them over the top... COley has the speed to put up 35 catches and 700 yards and beat teams deep

 

[Cane Dynasty]

To me its all about health.. You ****gots wanna be real let's be real.....Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year? Dorsett with all of his talent was neutered last year...Rashawn Scott is a better type WR for Kaayaa. Scott will lead this team in receptions if he stay healthy... Theres no reason COley cant put up Dorsetts numbers last year....For all the beast DOrsett was he had no lateral quickness.. We threw screens to him that amounted to nothing...Waters, Berrios, and COley are better at the screen game. Yall acting like Dorsett was our offense... He was an after thought most games.... I see no rason why we shouldnt have a better passing game then last year..Kaaya in 2nd year.. Yearby is just as good as DUke in the passing game.Now the run game Im holding my breath on

In all fairness he sure did keep those safeties back. That opened up much of the underneath stuff that Kaaya had so much success with. It will be interesting to see if Corley can scheme around not having that sure fire deep threat and safeties that will be playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

Meh I think keeping safeties back is overrated especially with Kaaya last year..... IMO teams came out to stop Duke not stop Dorsett... Skai Moore's people(Chad WIlson) Said that South Carolinas defensive game plan was to stop Duke and stop Duke only they were not worried about Kaaya beating them over the top...

There are however tons of coaches that disagree with that philosophy.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year?

True. The thing with Morris, is once you got to the 30-35 yd. line, the playbook/passing game was wide open.

 

[blackvern]

To me its all about health.. You ****gots wanna be real let's be real.....Kaaya did not have the arm to get the ball out to Dorsett like Morris did . WHy do you think he dropped off in production after having no drops last year? Dorsett with all of his talent was neutered last year...Rashawn Scott is a better type WR for Kaayaa. Scott will lead this team in receptions if he stay healthy... Theres no reason COley cant put up Dorsetts numbers last year....For all the beast DOrsett was he had no lateral quickness.. We threw screens to him that amounted to nothing...Waters, Berrios, and COley are better at the screen game. Yall acting like Dorsett was our offense... He was an after thought most games.... I see no rason why we shouldnt have a better passing game then last year..Kaaya in 2nd year.. Yearby is just as good as DUke in the passing game.Now the run game Im holding my breath on

In all fairness he sure did keep those safeties back. That opened up much of the underneath stuff that Kaaya had so much success with. It will be interesting to see if Corley can scheme around not having that sure fire deep threat and safeties that will be playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

Meh I think keeping safeties back is overrated especially with Kaaya last year..... IMO teams came out to stop Duke not stop Dorsett... Skai Moore's people(Chad WIlson) Said that South Carolinas defensive game plan was to stop Duke and stop Duke only they were not worried about Kaaya beating them over the top...

There are however tons of coaches that disagree with that philosophy.

I hear you im not saying that, Im saying that South Carolina wasnt scared of kayaa to dorsett and they played their safeties up to stop Duke... Go look at the game tape on youtube...We scored against FSU because we spread them out.... DOnt know why we stopped that attack