The Work 1-15

[01Canes]

You know what says it all? In what has become a 24-page Campbell to UGA reaction thread, we still have yet to see anyone post "but next year's DB class is loaded, bro" and express any confidence in Rumph and co. winning more battles in 2019.

Gonna be funny when some drum up a familiar narrative of how we'd land more studs at DB if there wasn't so much message board negativity directed towards certain staff members (Rumph in this case).

 

[Tad Footeball]

Blame Rumph all you want but make sure you blame a lot of yourselves and most of your neighbors for making this the softest part of the country for a kid to leave to go play for some hilljack supported SEC team.

There's ZERO fear in ANY of these kids or their families about leaving here (and often outright disrespecting Miami as they do so). And I'm not talking stupid **** like fear of violence (even though Michael Irving said that'd have been the case for him) but just plain ol' fear of mass disappointment and social blowback.

Soooo go ahead and call for Rumph's head but make sure y'all hold every clown wishing every local kid well while sayin' "God bless! Go get yours!" and "You can rep da 305/954 anywhere!" to the same standard as they're just as much of the problem.

Can you imagine a kid at Tuscaloosa High throwing a Bama hat down at his signing day ceremony like the linebacker from Deerfield Beach did a few months ago? Or straight up goofing on them in a video like Jobe did?

Exactly. No. Him and his family actually would need police protection. We send them well wishes.

Rumph was sending "congrats, bro!" messages to Marco Wilson when he chose UF over us. And Rick is busy pumping up UGA before the NC game. It's a Planter's Peanut way of life, Tad.

That's 1000% fair on the Rumph front. It's funny (not for us) that he seemingly adopted that "God Bless" attitude while being a high school coach and that weak sauce (or at least non-cut throatedness) has also seemingly carried over to his recruiting style/results. Then on the other hand the dude must've been abrasive or something as a head coach in that "his" kids have to have some sort of issue with him as none are loyal. It's the worst of both worlds on the recruiting front with him.

I'm more lenient with Rick's UGA weak sauce. I gave him a pass this year. Let him send his well wishes the first year they're relevant post his departure and his recruits are actually playing for something. At worst it still keeps his name in good graces in that state with the families still loyal to Ol' CMR. This was it though. No more future well wishes shall be sent or you actually do start looking like a soft shouldered inferior to Curby.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Here’s a big part of the problem, and it’s on the staff to fix it, but it will take time.

And people that post here are a big part of the problem.

For years now, it’s been cool to shlt on the local program by local people.

If you live down here, in Dade, Broward, and PB county, you know it’s true. So it’s easy for local kids to disrespect us. They see it all around. They don’t see the loyalty.

Anybody that denies this is lying. From the inner city to the suburbs. Too many people, locals, just love clowning on their own, and it filters down. No wonder they leave and it’s totally cool with everybody.

It’s up to the staff to fix it and get the respect back.

But let’s not kid ourselves. South Florida is full of front running disrespectful divas that shlt on the U constantly, and if the kids family is pro U, then the kid hears it from his friends at school. It’s all over. And it’s a fact.

 

[Stylie]

Frierson is going to be a ******* beast. People are sleeping on him.

 

[Torocane]

This man Rumph can’t close on a guy he has had a relationship with for 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. Im truly in disbelief. Like a prospect has known you basically most of his life that he can remember but you can’t convince him to allow you to coach him on the next level.

Unfortunately this is true. Last year everyone said don't judge Rumph until Campbell...well apparently it's not looking good.
I really like the job he has done with the CB but this needed to happen.
Really good recruiting class especially if they get the DT that we supposedly lead for BUT Campbell needed to happen to make this class special.

 

[Cane901]

maybe not all hope is lost. Campbell commented on Chatfield's Miami pic with a U emoji.

 

[CANEZZ4LIFE]

Richt has to make changes on this staff if we want to be back. As simple as that. I get it, great class already, good momentum building season, turnover chain publicity. But lets be honest with ourselves.... If we wanna be Miami again, this is a battle you have to win. Everyone can see what kind of player he can be with their own 2 eyes. Size, hips, speed, not a diva. Simply all the tools to become the player he is projected to be. Major L for rumph. **** lowkey a comedy when you sit back and dissect it. Optimist coach, to high school coach, and 10+ years of knowing the kid and yet you still cant get him. Absolutely baffling. He's bringing nothing to the table, as simple as that. And please miss me with the "development" **** cause if we land the kids we truly want to, they're going to be the goods regardless. Rumph has no track record and its looking like he cant recruit. Kul has one of those and it will pay off in a month.


And a friend of mine who happens to be a gaytor fan screenshotted this and sent it to me saying "yall might as well hire surtain" with laughing emojis. I sent back a fck you text. I could say so many things about his sorry *** 4-7 team, but I know this is an L for us. No way around it.

Hire Ed Reed and problem solved.

I'm on board. ****, Lets be real. A couple of years ago richt hired rumph. And from the outside looking in I have always asked myself, if you're going to get a coach with no college coaching experience, why rumph and not Reed? Richt obviously thought he had pull on the trail and we see that's not correct. I think E. Reed was with the bills as an assistant at the time. The hire was questionable at best then and has went down hill.

 

[gogeta4]

posted this somewhere else, but it should go here too since this is essentially a fire rumph thread now. IMO he has yet to actually miss on anybody since Campbell and Surtain haven't even decided yet.

Chris Henderson - probably was Rumphs fault, but lets be real, that kid was a ****ing little b**** . What he did, he deserved to get his *** chewed out for. He couldn't handle getting yelled at and coached up so he decided to run. That doesn't sound like someone I want.

Brian Edwards - imo wasn't good, or deserving of being in this class, especially after seeing who was in the 2018 class. But it appears this was a miss. However I'd argue it was a miss for Banda not Rumph. Everything we heard was that Banda was the main recruiter and those two were tight.

Asante Samuel - wasn't Rumphs fault. Actually, most of the intel has said that Rumph was one of the guys that was fighting for Asante to get an offer from the very beginning. We ended up slow playing him to the point we didn't even recruit him until like a week before ESD. No **** Rumph wasn't able to flip him that late. Again, don't see why people are blaming Rumph for that one if he wanted the kid, but was basically overruled.

Josh Jobe, again if anything this one is on Banda. But actually this kid is just 100% af and was definitely payed to go to Bama. Why is Rumph being blamed for this one?

Campbell, finally a player that Rumph can actually be blamed for that isn't a ****ing total **** *** b**** . Campbell is a top 3 CB in the country, possibly the best. We are competing with UGA and Bama, who were both just playing in the national Championship. Obviously Rumph and he have a good relationship, but its entirely possible the ONLY reason we are even in it is because of Rumph. I mean look at all the schools he's been looking at, they've all been the top schools in the country and out of state: UGA, Bama, Clemson, tOSU and Miami have been the 5 main schools he's looked at from the beginning. Campbell was never an easy get and anyone that thinks he was is an idiot - regardless what his relationship with our CB coach is. Still this would be a loss for Rumph, but lets not act like because we lost Campbell, its 100% on Rumph. LASTLY, this one isn't even over with. Yall a bunch of defeated little pussies.

Divaad Wilson, again how is this on Rumph when we didn't even recruit him because he had "Beef" with other commits, mainly Frierson. I mean if anything thats Friersons fault we didn't go after him. This isn't on Rumph.

Patrick Surtain. I guess this one is on Rumph, but I wouldn't say he "lost" this recruiting battle since we were never in it to begin with. If we have <5% chance at getting someone at best, thats not someone that is a realistic target. Again, probably the only reason we even have that 5% chance is due to Rumph being the coach.

So yall literally want to fire Rumph SOLELY because we MIGHT miss out on Tyson Campbell. If that is your opinion, thats fine, but say that. Dont make up a bunch of other bs reasons to justify it.

wow at this board. I think i predicted this as well. Folks making up every excuse for Rumph.

Yall fight that L so hard. And i dont get why.

Rumph could literally lose recruiting Mike Rumph Jr to FAU and some of yall would say "well his mama breast feeded him, thats on her"

In your post...you have blamed Bags, Frierson(dont know how?), Richt, Banda, Henderson's feelings, all to say what we alreay know....HE SUCKS AS A RECRUITER.

Mike we know thats you...You even suck at Posting.

What you gonna do knowing your going up against Randy Shannon for Bethel and he got the last visit?. Lmao

Your dislike for Rumph is starting to sound personal bro.

I am ****ed at Rumph too but he has proven to be a good DB coach at developing talent. And he can recruit..he just isnt at the point where he can recruit against the big dogs yet. Lets hope that will come in time.

Bringing him on as DB coach was going to have growing pains. Not sure why veteran posters like yourself and Chise' didnt see that coming. I am just happy it didnt come in the likes of him not being able to coach.

Not a dislike at all. Was one of my favs when he played here.
I just feel he was brought in to have inroads to land the AH kids...and he has struck out badly at that.
I believe its a wasted coach spot and always had because i never thought he would be an elite recruiter, and that doesnt take away from the fact that he is a green COACH.
-Everybody seems to tout him as an elite coach...but wheres the proof?. At AH they had Chad Wilson, Pat Surtain, as well as Daryll Porter i believe that coached dbs.
So im thinking he was brought into be a recruiter...well thats not working out so well. A cb coach is very similar to a rb coach where for the most part either you got it or you dont as a player for the most part.

I keep it real. If we can bring in a legit DB coach and free up 2 spots for coaches i'll be all for it. I guess some guys are off limits for whatever reason.

 

[ShadowSpring]

View attachment 57219 maybe not all hope is lost. Campbell commented on Chatfield's Miami pic with a U emoji.

Welp that is good.

 

[BrentIsACuckGBRsucks]

If Richt doesn't fire Rumph, then I will start to question his killer mentality.

Seriously if he cant get TC sign with all of our built in advantages how can we ever count on him to land an elite recruit. Lots of guys can teach technique.

 

[Combo]

Byrd in '16. Henderson and Edwards in '17. Campbell in '18. It's an established pattern that CB recruiting ***** the bed down the stretch.

 

[John77]

Everyone’s hopes of a truly elite DB class are pretty much gone. We have a solid group but not elite. We are going to end up bringing five in and one of them is going to be Bethel.

Our offensive recruiting has been on a whole different level than defensive. We need an ace recruiter on the defensive side badly. Every coach on that side is expendable as far as I’m concerned. Maybe Kool gets a pass but not even sure about that.

 

[Meat]

Everyone’s hopes of a truly elite DB class are pretty much gone. We have a solid group but not elite. We are going to end up bringing five in and one of them is going to be Bethel.

Our offensive recruiting has been on a whole different level than defensive. We need an ace recruiter on the defensive side badly. Every coach on that side is expendable as far as I’m concerned. Maybe Kool gets a pass but not even sure about that.

If they bring in Bethel at CB but they won't take Xavier Peters or Bonitto at LB, then this defensive staff are just idiots.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Rumph could be a good secondary coach but he is not a good recruiter. After last year recruiting class was in, I remember reading in one of his interviews him admitting he needs to change some of the ways he was recruiting kids. I guess he hasn't made positive change yet.

Adrian Colbert says hello.

Adrian Colbert was probably the fastest guy on the roster at 6'+ with good agility and a great mindset for corner. There are a lot of coaches who would've had success with Adrian Colbert. The fact that he did nothing at Texas is an indictment of Texas' program, not some proof that Rumph is a miracle worker. Corn Elder was a great college football player. The other CBs we've had have been OK, but certainly nothing at all to make me think that Rumph is this fantastic DB technician who's making chicken salad out of chicken **** as some like to portray. There were lots of times the secondary just didn't get the job done against the Wisconsin and Pitts of the world, let alone Clemson/Bama level programs. You can debate the reasons why but the bottom line is we need a gigantic talent infusion, and we just whiffed on a ton of South Florida studs 2 years in a row.

These dudes keep trying to portray Colbert as one of Jerry's Kids. That dude got worked over by Chuck ******* when he decided to dump on all the vets and go with a youth movement to try to save his job. The fact that Colbert plays in the NFL should tell these dopes that he's always had ability.

Objectively, Rumph did do a good job with Colbert. Just cause it doesn't fit a narrative doesn't mean it isn't the case.

Still not enough to judge Rumph as a CB coach. Some good and bad signs. We'll learn more this year.

I am not sure 8 games is a large enough sample size for a 5th year senior to objectively define Rumphs impact. It is entirely possible the only benefit to coming to Miami was giving a tall fast kid another chance to be noticed after a poor turn of events at his original school.

 

[Calinative]

Yall trippin. Id rather just hire a 10th coach for special teams, whose main job is to recruit his *** off.

Lol, isn't that (plus TEs) basically Coach Hartley's job description? Based on what we've seen to date, he's much better at recruiting than coaching STs. It does seem like all our better recruiters (Hartley, Dugans, Searels, and Brown) coach on the offensive side of ball.

Hatley needs to just stick to TE. and yeah he's been killing it recruiting.

We need a dedicated ST coach that will be a defensive recruiter. Thats what Im saying. I mean a LB coach would be fine too i guess. But I think its pretty clear that LB or ST is the positions that are most likely to get an additional coach.

imo though it seems like Banda is the main guy recruiting DBs, and Rumph is kinda the assistant DB recruiter. Like Rumph is the guy developing the talent, and Banda is the guy recruiting the talent. Thats just how it seems to me. So all these threads about firing Rumph are kidna retarded imo.

 

[JHallCanes]

Rumph could be a good secondary coach but he is not a good recruiter. After last year recruiting class was in, I remember reading in one of his interviews him admitting he needs to change some of the ways he was recruiting kids. I guess he hasn't made positive change yet.

Adrian Colbert says hello.

Adrian Colbert was probably the fastest guy on the roster at 6'+ with good agility and a great mindset for corner. There are a lot of coaches who would've had success with Adrian Colbert. The fact that he did nothing at Texas is an indictment of Texas' program, not some proof that Rumph is a miracle worker. Corn Elder was a great college football player. The other CBs we've had have been OK, but certainly nothing at all to make me think that Rumph is this fantastic DB technician who's making chicken salad out of chicken **** as some like to portray. There were lots of times the secondary just didn't get the job done against the Wisconsin and Pitts of the world, let alone Clemson/Bama level programs. You can debate the reasons why but the bottom line is we need a gigantic talent infusion, and we just whiffed on a ton of South Florida studs 2 years in a row.

These dudes keep trying to portray Colbert as one of Jerry's Kids. That dude got worked over by Chuck ******* when he decided to dump on all the vets and go with a youth movement to try to save his job. The fact that Colbert plays in the NFL should tell these dopes that he's always had ability.

Amen to that.

Ive watched Colbert a lot this year and he flat out belongs in the NFL. People brushed it off because SF was garbage but they had good safeties. Their defense started playing really well and Colbert jumped off the screen. He’s a beast.

 

[Canefan70]

If we get the right guys putting pressure on the qb than I could play DB next year. I'm waiting for the "but he was wearing the Canes wristband repping the U."

Honestly Rumph knowing the family all those years could of been a negative. Maybe TC and family felt he learned as much as he could from Rumph. Its not a knock, its just what it is. Same reason why Tiger switches swing coaches every so often, you learn what you can and move on.

Let's not hate on Rumph. He is our guy and he is a Cane for life. If we would of been in the playoff maybe TC looks at us differently who knows. I think some of us forget we **** the bed the last 3 games especially the PITT game. We didn't look good at all. We will start winning the battles more when we get closer to competing for a NC. I'll hang up and listen now.

This is the mentality that needs to be gone. Just because you played at the school doesn't give you a free pass to not perform optimally at your position - ie get the recruits you're supposed to. In the 3 years Rumph has been here, this is whom he's missed on:

Year 1: Byrd
Year 2: Edwards, Henderson, and Wilson
Year 3: Samuel, Campbell (trending in this direction)

That's an alarming trend of talent that has left the state for other programs.

Wins and losses have nothing to do with it, it's supposed to be about relationships. Miami overperformed from what it was initially slated to win this year. Our inconsistencies at QB are the main reason for the last 3 losses. The Clemson game was simply a product of our talent level isn't up to par yet.

You could say we crapped the bed all you want. I saw UGA crap the bed on that last defensive play which cost them a title. That team will take a significant step back next year where Kirby's going to be under a microscope.

We don't know the details of this recruitment. We don't know if Rumph is a straight shooter and doesn't kiss kid's @sses or what he does or doesn't do recruiting wise. I imagine he has the old school Canes mentality where you have to work hard and earn your spot. I think recruiting is a team effort whether you are the lead recruiter or not. You learn from the whole staff and use all your resources. All I know he has developed our guys and I am happy with it. All it takes is one player of elite caliber to stay home and play for the city and everyone will be on their knees for Rumph. If the NFL came calling tomorrow and Rumph left their would be the same people crying on this board that wanted to fire him today.

This Campbell recruitment and all the disdain and heartache people have..........we bring it on ourselves. We believe the reports and the rumors....we buy in and become vested in it. We even twist a story or picture or quote in our favor just so we can believe it even more. Before we go bashing Pete, Rattler, Rumph or anyone else ..........we need to look in the mirror because that's the only person that matters and the one who really believed he was coming to Miami.

 

[MIA42178]

No doubt UGA has been telling Tyson Campbell that if they had him on the team they would have won a national championship. Thats tough to argue with, because its not exactly wrong. Their one cb was getting his *** worked all game, and gave up that final TD because he didn't reroute the WR at all. 2 of the 3 schools we are competing with for him were just in the National Championship that either team could have won. And the school that is the biggest threat to us is UGA who was an inch away. I mean all uga has to do is show Campbell tape of their dbs getting worked, and how he could be THE difference maker. Thats tough to battle with.

Having said all that **** all of you, and Pete too, he's going to be a Cane.

If you’re talking about the final play, it’s absolutely wrong. It was a horrible deep cover 2 play call by Korby.

The CB passed off to FS who wasn’t there. BC the CB probably saw the spot WR coming across wide open

The slot WR and RB came across middle w no one within 15 yards of them. Either one of them would have gained a first down.

It was a bad play call.

 

[gogeta4]

Rumph could be a good secondary coach but he is not a good recruiter. After last year recruiting class was in, I remember reading in one of his interviews him admitting he needs to change some of the ways he was recruiting kids. I guess he hasn't made positive change yet.

Adrian Colbert says hello.

Adrian Colbert was probably the fastest guy on the roster at 6'+ with good agility and a great mindset for corner. There are a lot of coaches who would've had success with Adrian Colbert. The fact that he did nothing at Texas is an indictment of Texas' program, not some proof that Rumph is a miracle worker. Corn Elder was a great college football player. The other CBs we've had have been OK, but certainly nothing at all to make me think that Rumph is this fantastic DB technician who's making chicken salad out of chicken **** as some like to portray. There were lots of times the secondary just didn't get the job done against the Wisconsin and Pitts of the world, let alone Clemson/Bama level programs. You can debate the reasons why but the bottom line is we need a gigantic talent infusion, and we just whiffed on a ton of South Florida studs 2 years in a row.

These dudes keep trying to portray Colbert as one of Jerry's Kids. That dude got worked over by Chuck ******* when he decided to dump on all the vets and go with a youth movement to try to save his job. The fact that Colbert plays in the NFL should tell these dopes that he's always had ability.

Amen to that.

Ive watched Colbert a lot this year and he flat out belongs in the NFL. People brushed it off because SF was garbage but they had good safeties. Their defense started playing really well and Colbert jumped off the screen. He’s a beast.

thanks to Rumph. They were touting him for Corn Elder too like he wa sone of the little Giants.

Coaching is a part but you cant dress a pig too much out on that island. They got to have it. From early on you could see Colbert had it..Michael Jackson jumped off screen to me early on..folks were down on him but i always would chime and commend that he was first in the rotation at that time. Now with more seasoning you saw what we got in him.

Rumph will have some good guys to work with in this class...but Campbell wouldve thrown it over the top. Lets hope this was a godsend in that..our coaches that read tea leaves horribly at db..are now put on notice that were not leading.

 

[caneinpsl]

View attachment 57219 maybe not all hope is lost. Campbell commented on Chatfield's Miami pic with a U emoji.

I take that with a huge grain of salt. These kids support each other with whatever decisions they make. They aren't as divided as we are as fans.