The two biggest things Sam Bruce brings to the table

[brock]

Again, I love having him on board. But I've yet to see how an elite short area burst guy with elite moves and quickness could be held to 9 yards per catch over the course of an entire season in high school, especially on a team with multiple weapons that didn't allow opponents to focus on Sam.

Because Jake Allen sucks (uf commit) 1600 yds 18td 8int with all those weapons. Sean white threw for 2300 and 29tds when he was at university with bruce (auburn commit) 15ypc and 9tds that year. Hes never going to have #1 type receiver stats but he can make major impacts on gameplanning and special teams. You cant toss a LB or 99% of safeties on him.

Jake allen does not suck...If you actually watch St Thomas game they run a rather conservative offense...

Is that their general philosophy or did they handcuff allen on purpose? Okorn thre for 2500 22td 4int...seems like they knew what they had in allen.

Handcuffed because he ain't that good

 

[CaneStuck@USF]

Once Sam Bruce grows in to his voice, he will be like 6'8. Dude sounds like Sunny Odogwu looks.

 

[kryptonite]

What I like - he's fearless, attacks the ball, goes over the middle, has big hands.

What I don't like - He looks like too much of a strider sometimes, even though he's small, and the way he runs in the open field. A lot of times he'll come to complete stops to let the defender go by, cuts laterally or backwards, jumps, or spins. All that stops your forward momentum. It looks great, but it doesn't lead to any extra yardage. It's something you can get away with at the High School level, but not in College. Bruce is more start and stop quickness vs. quickness in changing directions while moving forward. This is why I think his ceiling is limited.

Duke probably averaged 15 yards after coming to a complete stop on long runs and returns.

 

[DTP]

Ryan Schneider was Bruce's offensive coordinator at University School and STA so it's not like they changed the system. The offense was more conservative at STA because they didn't trust the quarterback as much. When you've got a team that loaded with talent on both sides of the ball, the last thing you want to do is allow less talented teams to stick around because your quarterback keeps turning the ball over.

 

[iLoveTDs]

I haven't paid much attention to him because Al has me conditioned just losing his sort anyway. Now that we might actually keep him, I watched. Wow. Kid is old Cane. Kaaya and him together for two years with a real QB coach(Mark not his baby boy) are going to be eyepoping. Only negative I saw was carrying the ball a little exposed, but who cares.

I saw too much dancing at the LOS. But all that will be fixed very quickly with Dugans (or any college WR coach for that matter).

No need to fix what clearly works... It worked in the video... Consistently beat his man off the LOS by "dancing"

But I will agree with that it might be too much... And that dugans will minimize it to the point were he isn't wasting time on making moves at the LOS...

In 1 on 1 drills, u need to create separation, u are the only thing the db has to worry about...

So basically I'm agreeing with you, I just wouldn't call it dancing... I'd say he was smart to do it because it made him look great...

Love the swag

Go Canes

In college you don't have a lot of time to create separation at the line like that. There was way too much souljah boy in that video. From all of the players. It's most likely a 7v7 thing, or just HS kids who haven't developed proper technique.

There are no wasted moves in CFB/NFL.

Was just an observation. Excited to have the kid.

 

[TrueCane]

I see it the exact opposite i hoppe he does well here but even his exchange with future commits like nick roberts bruce seems as though a drama queen, his game film is avg at best

 

[TrueCane]

Seems like they didnt have room for him at ohio st no need to reccomit to a school your already comitted at whole process has been a mess

 

[JHallCanes]

I know one thing he better be tucking that ball instead holding it out in one hand at the next level where they will strip him like crazy doing that crap. Otherwise he is an explosive talent just needs to do some fundamentals.

He's just doing that in 7on7 because there are no fumbles.

7 on 7 a good WR should dominate the DBs. Not taking anything away from him but that's exactly the type of setting that suits him. I'm excited to see him but I don't see Santana just because of his stature. Santana was an elite downfield threat. Not saying Bruce can't be of course but no reason to make comparisons just because of size.

 

[caneallday21]

Closest thing to Steve Smith I've seen in a loooooong time. Short but a badass who is a leader and athleticism and hands that are top notch

 

[rayray]

i think he might turn out for us like jarvis landry turned out for the dolphins. doesn't have breakaway straight line speed but is really quick in short areas, will be a high volume receiver who moves the chains and breaks tackles and who will rip off a big play every once in a while. also is tough, energetic and a good special teams player.

 

[rayray]

What I like - he's fearless, attacks the ball, goes over the middle, has big hands.

What I don't like - He looks like too much of a strider sometimes, even though he's small, and the way he runs in the open field. A lot of times he'll come to complete stops to let the defender go by, cuts laterally or backwards, jumps, or spins. All that stops your forward momentum. It looks great, but it doesn't lead to any extra yardage. It's something you can get away with at the High School level, but not in College. Bruce is more start and stop quickness vs. quickness in changing directions while moving forward. This is why I think his ceiling is limited.

this post gets at what i'm talking about with the landry comparison

 

[deleted4697]

So he will be a way better version than thearon collier? Or am I short changing him on that?

 

[Dwinstitles]

Hes not steve smith **** nah, hes just not fast enough. But hes a take because its a big sfla pull and he can be a good to great college player.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Closest thing to Steve Smith I've seen in a loooooong time. Short but a badass who is a leader and athleticism and hands that are top notch

Sorry but smith got toasties and that makes a huge difference

 

[Cribby]

Hes not steve smith **** nah, hes just not fast enough. But hes a take because its a big sfla pull and he can be a good to great college player.

Agree. I see no comparison . Steve was a freak of nature, pint size megaton . Dude was super strong , and electric . Fast *** ****.

Freaking DL and OL knew not to f with that dude, total bad *** on and off the field .

 

[gogeta4]

Again, I love having him on board. But I've yet to see how an elite short area burst guy with elite moves and quickness could be held to 9 yards per catch over the course of an entire season in high school, especially on a team with multiple weapons that didn't allow opponents to focus on Sam.

Because Jake Allen sucks (uf commit) 1600 yds 18td 8int with all those weapons. Sean white threw for 2300 and 29tds when he was at university with bruce (auburn commit) 15ypc and 9tds that year. Hes never going to have #1 type receiver stats but he can make major impacts on gameplanning and special teams. You cant toss a LB or 99% of safeties on him.

Jake allen does not suck...If you actually watch St Thomas game they run a rather conservative offense...

Jake Allen isnt that good...and to say they run a conservative offense would be playing it low key...

Their offense is terrible for the amount of talent....they dont run anything deep with Bruce...the deep throws went to Grimes....Irvin and Bruce worked the short stuff...with Bruce..getting even shorter stuff..quick screens. motion handoffs, wildcat, rb tosses.

His stats dont mean sh*t he is the goods...and he still was a focal point on most legit teams they played as he has been a star in s.fla since little leagues (everyone knows about him)...how u think hallandale kept it close.

Allen is overrated...had he still been at Cardinal Gibbons would he still be hyped or a uf commit...or just a kid with mid level offers...that STA name added to his offer sheet big time..

 

[FlipT]

Wow@Steve Smith comparison.Steve Smith was the Albert Belle of football because he could channel his anger into good results on the field.

 

[OldhamA]

steve smith ran a 4.39 40

there's no reason to think that with a college strength program that bruce can't get down to 4.4-4.45 range.

Will he be as good as smith? I doubt it but who knows.

Steve Smith was elite in space, and was exceptional at going up for the ball despite his size. Panthers would run 5-6 bubble screens a game to him and he would bound to break one for a massive gain

I'm a Panthers fan, so perhaps I'm biased, but Steve Smith in his prime is probably the best WR of this era.

Those 'smoke' screens were deadly - partly because it became a punt return when he got the ball in his hands, partly because if the CB came up and jammed him he had the speed to run away from anyone on a streak.

I haven't seen anything from Bruce to suggest he's remotely that talented - besides being a similar size and build. We'll see of course, he has 3 / 4 years to develop.

 

[Cribby]

Wow@Steve Smith comparison.Steve Smith was the Albert Belle of football because he could channel his anger into good results on the field.

I should block you and delete your number for this blasphemy

 

[Cribby]

steve smith ran a 4.39 40

there's no reason to think that with a college strength program that bruce can't get down to 4.4-4.45 range.

Will he be as good as smith? I doubt it but who knows.

Steve Smith was elite in space, and was exceptional at going up for the ball despite his size. Panthers would run 5-6 bubble screens a game to him and he would bound to break one for a massive gain

I'm a Panthers fan, so perhaps I'm biased, but Steve Smith in his prime is probably the best WR of this era.

Those 'smoke' screens were deadly - partly because it became a punt return when he got the ball in his hands, partly because if the CB came up and jammed him he had the speed to run away from anyone on a streak.

I haven't seen anything from Bruce to suggest he's remotely that talented - besides being a similar size and build. We'll see of course, he has 3 / 4 years to develop.

You aren't biased, dude dominated games at 5'9, and he's was an outside guy. Not your typical short slot.

He was a unicorn