The Tale of Dan Enos: Failure In Numbers

There's a reason uga and bama offered him OC jobs....even Sabin and Dabo had bad seasons before becoming champions...why not wait to see before judging him post bama?

Harbaugh hired him too.

I'm sorry, but those coaches know good coaches when they see em. And Enos was in line to be the only Bama offensive staff member to be kept. If that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what does.

Great hire - beats the **** out of Apple-fvckin-white
 
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You know this how? You looked at their rosters during those years? Injuries?

That's like saying Vanderbilt had the exact level of athlete as the rest of the SEC and should make the playoff at least as often as Bama, Auburn, or UGA.

It's not like saying that at all, and it's weird you would think those are similar comparisons.
 
First:
Neither OC Applewhite or OC fedora was fired. They were fired as HCs which is a totally different jobs.

Second:
YES both those OCs put up better numbers than our new OC... in fact, it’s why they were offered HC gigs.

Fourth:
If a system can work without talent, what’ll it do WITH talent?

Houston's talent compared to the rest of their conference is a fvckin joke. The cougars get really good 3 star kids (sometimes even 4 and 5 star kids).

Their competition doesn't.

So I would actually argue that Applewhite had a built in advantage at UH.

Fedora is a guy I liked, and his showing in the ACC title game against Clemson was all I needed to see. but he probably turned us down - so we move on.

Enos will be good for us on the recruiting trail, and I guarantee you he ain't running that Arkansas fvckin offense here.

Manny wants an attacking, deceptive style of O (he never actually said spread).

Christ Peterson at Washington runs a very modern offense that disguises plays, uses motions, and confuses the **** out of teams. It's a modern offense - doesn't have to be shotgun 4/5 wide to win. We have a rich tradition of TEs and RBs. Build around that.
 
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Sources? How about turn your brain on and use some basic deductive reasoning. What is more likely, that Alabama, the school that has finger ****ed us for coaches going back to Stoutland and Pannunzio whenever they felt like it, just all of sudden let a coach walk without ever officially naming him OC? Or, Saban wanted change things up and did his outgoing subordinate a solid on the way out?

This move doesn't even make sense for Enos from a career trajectory standpoint. If Enos is truly the OC in waiting at Bama, why leave to come here, when he can coach Tua to another Heisman caliber season and parlay it into a HC job like Locksley did?


You sound like a chick who’s been dumped one too many times.

Every situation is individual. You have no backing for your position other than it’s happened so many times it has to be the case this time as well.
 
Not every single thing in a guy’s career has to be about money.
I actually think we offered him around 1.2 mil

Maybe Saban didn't wanna match or beat that offer.

Or MAYBE Dan Enos doesn't vibe right with Saban (Saban is gettin up there in age, and probably isn't the most pleasant guy to coach with).
 
I actually think we offered him around 1.2 mil

Maybe Saban didn't wanna match or beat that offer.

Or MAYBE Dan Enos doesn't vibe right with Saban (Saban is gettin up there in age, and probably isn't the most pleasant guy to coach with).

number 3 is what their fans are alluding to and what was posted right after the NC game on twitter. there were a lot of issues with the staff turnover, the staff and saban, and players and saban
 
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It's not like saying that at all, and it's weird you would think those are similar comparisons.
Why? Ur picking one team from the MAC and assuming they had the overall same level of athletes as the rest of the conference.
 
Honestly, not sure what to think. As a QB coach, he is likely to be an upgrade. We can all agree on that; however, as an OC he has not coordinated top shelf offenses. That cannot be disputed. On the other hand, the ’Bama boards are up in arms over his departure. He was considered by many to be the best coach (other than Saban) on the staff. That carries considerable weight as those fans know good coaching when they see it.

Enos doesn’t necessarily run a pure spread or Air Raid-type offense yet Bama and UGA both wanted him to be their OC. Pro style/limited spread offenses tend to win championships and not pure spread offenses. On the other hand, the Bama’s, UGA’s and Clemson’s - teams that run pro spread offenses - all have rosters filled with top-notch talent and massive OL’s. We don’t or not yet.

Maybe Enos was pro style at Arkansas because that’s what Bielema wanted given Bielema’s past work at Wisconsin. Maybe Enos learned to appreciate more spread concepts while at Bama under Locksley.

No se. I WANT to believe this is the right guy and that Enos is a home run. I’m HOPING for the best and excited for Spring ball. Color me cautiously optimistic...

Let’s ride.
 
People are enjoying hyping themselves over the “Bama OC” title he’s held for two weeks, even though he’s never called a single play for Saban.

There’s also rampant and furious *********ion due to the fact that Georgia is rumored to have offered, too. That’s fine, but if you look deeper than that at metrics of substance and numbers that quantify his actual output coaching offenses, there isn’t much to get excited about. There isn’t a pattern showing a history of routinely fielding great offenses.

Let’s look at the results. This is a post examining cold hard facts and indisputable numbers — Not one about who’s rumored to be pursuing him, or his job title, but objective stats. Stats Penos can’t escape.

He was the head coach at Central Michigan from 2010-2014. He had full control of that team. He could’ve run any offense he wanted. Here’s what he did:

Total offense:
2010: 49th
2011: 57th
2012: 64th
2013: 110th
2014: 70th

Scoring Offense:
2010: 82nd
2011: 91st
2012: 64th
2013: 96th
2014: 81st

So he winds up in Arkansas with that Butthead looking weirdo Belima. Here’s what he does as offensive coordinator:

Total Offenss:
2015: 25th
2016: 54th
2017: 94th

Scoring Offense:
2015: 27th
2016: 57th
2017: 61st

If you look at just his resume alone, he’s a terrible candidate. Not only is he not a fit for the style that best suits us AND the one Manny claimed to want, he has nothing in his history to indicate he’s capable of engineering highly powered and productive offenses. He can’t move the ball. He can’t score.

You throw his resume up against a guy like Fedora’s and he gets absolutely run out of the building. People like him because they hear “Alabama offensive coordinator” and we’re so desperate to be good we’ll like anything, so they build a small fire and grunt around it “hur hur Saban hur hur Bama OC” without delving any further into his past production or style.

Coming back to the facts:

Penos produced ONE respectable offensive unit in SEVEN seasons.

We can post homerun gifs or talk about which coaches wanted him, but when it has come time to put a successful offense on the field, he’s failed to do so 85% of the seasons he’s coached.

And those remain the facts.

I hope he has some late-career revelation that turns him into an offensive savant, but as of now, all he’s proven is that’s he’s a journeyman guy running an offense that seldom produces and is pretty opposite of what Manny said he wanted.

God help us all.
I will say this, you are a miserable **** but at least you have data to support your glass is empty stance. Even if I think your interpretation of it is wrong.
 
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Honestly, not sure what to think. As a QB coach, he is likely to be an upgrade. We can all agree on that; however, as an OC he has not coordinated top shelf offenses. That cannot be disputed. On the other hand, the ’Bama boards are up in arms over his departure. He was considered by many to be the best coach (other than Saban) on the staff. That carries considerable weight as those fans know good coaching when they see it.

Enos doesn’t necessarily run a pure spread or Air Raid-type offense yet Bama and UGA both wanted him to be their OC. Pro style/limited spread offenses tend to win championships and not pure spread offenses. On the other hand, the Bama’s, UGA’s and Clemson’s all have rosters filled with top-notch talent and massive OL’s.

Maybe Enos was pro style at Arkansas because that’s what Bielema wanted given Bielema’s past work at Wisconsin. Maybe Enos learned to appreciate more spread concepts while at Bama under Locksley.

No se. I WANT to believe this is the right guy and that Enos is a home run. I’m HOPING for the best and excited for Spring ball. Color me cautiously optimistic...

Let’s ride.
Going out on a limb there.
 
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Bottom line he’s gonna run a more open offense and is a good QB coach..
 
Not every single thing in a guy’s career has to be about money.

Seriously and not being a homer here. Hypitheticallly he's offered 1.5 mil at BAMA and 1.2 mil here.

Miami > Tuscaloosa
No income tax
Saban is a ****
The coastal sucks
He gets full credit for our offensive turnaround
Full control of the offense

There are plenty of reasons if money is somewhat equal to go somewhere else.
 
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