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I get the so called "randomness" of the sport but come on after awhile if it aint working anymore you need to make change
UM V. Missouri State - Miami wins 7-5 with Missouri State's lead off hitter for the inning getting on 6 times, Missouri State's multiple errors handing us 2 runs. We won that game because Missouri State let us win.
Omaha results are the whole population I'm concerned about. It's not a sample of the whole you've claimed all of this time because CWS competition is for the national title. In that population of 5 games, we are 1-4. That sucks, and it deserves analysis not just limited to statistics.
I've honestly never heard of a program in any sport at any level that has a permanent attitude that regular seasons are great and winning the whole thing would be fun but isn't really part of the expectations.
There isn't anyone inside the programs at LSU, Fullerton, South Carolina, UCLA, etc., who has the attitude that championships aren't attainable by hard work and that Omaha is just a random crap shoot.
Unfortunately you don't get that it's part of a bigger picture.
Look under our scoreboard and tell me which years are listed, and why.
no one here criticized do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3[/URL] for the job he did during the probation years. Its like they don't get it. If you wanted to be petty, you would mention those years specifically.
Why? Because it would be unreasonable to EXPECT a team on probation down ships to win a title.
@cane since birth, @BWCD, @Jaromir Jagr, @imurcane, @KeyWestConchs,It's not 2 games. It's about 10 games at Omaha since '01 and I'm pretty sure we played bad baseball in 2 of the wins.
It is 2 games.
2 out of 64.
And yet you dismiss the overwhelming majority (62) and base your judgments on just the last 2.
Somehow we're soft (even though we're not) and we failed against the best teams (even though we didn't).
Since they love talking about 50 win seasons, winning conference championships, national seeds, and getting to Omaha is "winning". Here's our performances at Omaha since '01 because I put up a "small" sample size.
College World Series history: Past champions and game recaps - Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald
2003:
UM v. Texas - Texas wins 13-2 with 5 UM errors, 6 walks by the pitchers, and 12 K's by our players. That's bad baseball
UM V. Missouri State - Miami wins 7-5 with Missouri State's lead off hitter for the inning getting on 6 times, Missouri State's multiple errors handing us 2 runs. We won that game because Missouri State let us win.
UM v. Texas - Texas wins 5-1 with 8 walks by our pitchers, 1 walk by our batters, and 7 runners left on base. That's bad baseball.
2004:
College World Series history: Past champions and game recaps - Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald
UM v. LSU - UM wins 9-5 with 2 errors, 4 walks and 9 K's by UM players. That's bad baseball but we still won because LSU's bats went quiet 3rd inning on.
UM v. Cal State Fullerton - Fullerton wins 6-3 with UM commiting 4 errors and leaving 8 on base. That's bad baseball and it could've been worse because Fullerton left 11 runners on base with only two walks by us btw
This one is a gem. UM v. South Carolina - South Carolina wins 15-11 with 11 K's by UM players, 9 walks by our pitchers, 9 runners left on base, 2 errors, and only 1 walk by our players. That's bad baseball.
2006:
College World Series history: Past champions and game recaps - Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald
UM v. Oregon State - UM wins 11-1 and even though we left 8 runners on base, it was a **** good ball game
Another gem. UM v Rice - Rice wins 3-2 with 10 K's by UM players, 11 runners left on base, only 2 walks by UM players, and 2 errors. Bad baseball
UM v. Oregon State - Oregon State wins 8-1 with only one total walk by us but we just got outplayed
2008:
College World Series history: Past champions and game recaps - Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald
UM v. UGA - UGA wins 7-4 with 10 strikeouts and 7 runners left on base. That's bad baseball
UM v. FSU - UM wins 7-5 but with 9 runners left on base and 2 errors. That's bad baseball and FSU left 17 runners on base ( a fuggin record) and K'd 9 times so our bad baseball wasn't as bad a theirs.
3rd gem. UM v. Stanford - Stanford wins with10 k's by UM players, 12 runners left on base, and 2 errors. That's bad baseball
2015:
UM v UF - UF wins 15-3 with 11 runners left on and 3 errors. El juego de pelota fue horrible....that's spanish for bad baseball because I know you sapingos aren't bilingual like I am.
UM v Arkansas - UM wins 4-3 and benefit from Arkansas playing bad baseball with their four errors causing our 2 errors to go unnoticed but we played ok.
UM v. UF - UF win 10-2 and other than the 12 K's, we got outplayed
2016:
UM v. Arizona - Arizona wins 5-1 with 14 K's by UM players and only 3 walks. That's bad baseball, they didn't even adjust to the strike zone at all, they stood there with the same approach all night long.
UM v. UC Santa Babara - UC Santa Barbara wins 5-3 because we got outplayed
So it looks like "randomness" is their word for playing bad baseball or getting outplayed at Omaha.
Exactly, not just 1 season, but 16. Its funny, no one here has criticized #3 for the job he did during the probation years. Its like they don't get it. If you wanted to be petty, you would mention those years specifically. But you don't. JJ doesn't. No one does. Why? Because it would be unreasonable to EXPECT a team on probation down ships to win a title. The other years, expectations ON!
UM V. Missouri State - Miami wins 7-5 with Missouri State's lead off hitter for the inning getting on 6 times, Missouri State's multiple errors handing us 2 runs. We won that game because Missouri State let us win.
Stopped reading after this.
Your issues are pathological.
It's all about winning unless we win then you come up with another reason why the performance wasn't good enough.
Jagr does the same thing. He rails about our results in the regular season but when we have 50-win seasons it doesn't matter. Only the postseason matters! Then when we win in the postseason it doesn't matter. Only Omaha matters!
It's the ultimate bait and switch.
These guys are just perpetual whiners. They live for this stuff.
maybe you should read the article where the Missouri State players literally say they gave us two runs
"It's tough to come to the College World Series and give people runs," SMS shortstop Shaun Marcum said. "We gave Rice a run or two Saturday. We gave Miami two runs today that I can think of, and maybe more."
The most consistent thing about Miami baseball since '01 is that we play our worst baseball of the year once we reach Omaha.
The most consistent thing about Miami baseball since '01 is that we play our worst baseball of the year once we reach Omaha.
This is just revisionist garbage.
Just like taking the word of a Southwest Missouri State player about how they gave us runs.
4 games total for those playing at home...and in Omaha for context.Omaha results are the whole population I'm concerned about. It's not a sample of the whole you've claimed all of this time because CWS competition is for the national title. In that population of 5 games, we are 1-4. That sucks, and it deserves analysis not just limited to statistics.
You're suggesting that we change something (you have't told us what) that has worked all season (both regular and post) because in two games in two seasons we struggled.
Yes, it's nonsense that we play so well during a major part of the season, then **** the bed in Omaha. I agree with that.It's nonsense.
Jagr does the same thing. He rails about our results in the regular season but when we have 50-win seasons it doesn't matter. Only the postseason matters! Then when we win in the postseason it doesn't matter. Only Omaha matters!
4 games total for those playing at home...and in Omaha for context.Omaha results are the whole population I'm concerned about. It's not a sample of the whole you've claimed all of this time because CWS competition is for the national title. In that population of 5 games, we are 1-4. That sucks, and it deserves analysis not just limited to statistics.
You're suggesting that we change something (you have't told us what) that has worked all season (both regular and post) because in two games in two seasons we struggled.
Now - I'm not 100% sure what needs to be changed...I have some ideas, but nothing ironclad that is a lock to make us win in Omaha. That's on Morris to figure out, he's the manager - and that's where the criticism/examination begins. It's pretty clear when you win a bunch of games over the regular season/regionals/supers, and then you get to Omaha and **** the bed...that you need to examine why that happened. That's all I'm here for, and I'm willing to discuss all possibilities except for this randomness/bad luck BS you've been peddling, because that's just a copout to deflect any criticism/examination of the job Morris has been doing once we reach Omaha.
Yes, it's nonsense that we play so well during a major part of the season, then **** the bed in Omaha. I agree with that.It's nonsense.
The bell-hop-gnome deserves credit. As Jagr predicted back in February, Coastal Carolina just defeated Arizona for the crown of Omaha.
Omaha is not the least predictable tournament in sports. We will add this accomplishment to the troll's litany of accomplishments (i.e. giving proper directions in the keys, great luggage porting ability, identifying best key lime pie in the isles, etc...)