The Past Decade: Revealed

[BWCD]

No - and I'm not whining. I think analyzing it and discussing it is fine. You, apparently, do not.

I think smart and informed analysis is always good.

You haven't provided any of that.

That's your opinion. Not a good one, but it is yours all the same, and you're more than entitled to it.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

If baseball were as random as you say it is, and we can't control it at all, then we're just one of the luckier programs in college baseball, I guess.

No you're just struggling with comprehension again.

The reason why we win a lot is because in baseball there are a lot of games. The more games played the more likely the better team comes out on top.

Conversely when the sample size is smaller the results are more random.

 

[BWCD]

We laid an egg in Omaha 2 straight seasons now. There has to be a better reason than randomness/bad luck.

No, again. People like you look for explanations for small random samples. I give you explanations and you lash out.

You're trying to make sense of something (the CWS) that rarely has any rhyme of reason to it.

Then why play in it if it's so random? Are you trying to say that the CWS has it wrong, and we need to go to a different system to help eliminate some of this randomness/bad luck?

There's an element of randomness and bad luck in every freaking sport, man. Rational people kind of put that to the side when discussing the ins and outs of why a team does/doesn't win. You, on the other hand, do not.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

.Why do we even play if it's SOOOO random?

Now you're just trying to save face because even the most clueless people on Earth know that baseball is the most random sport in the world.

We play because we're competitors and we want to win the championship. Unfortunately while the format is fun and dramatic it also very random and doesn't crown the best team.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

There are lies, **** lies, and then there's statistics. Mark Twain said that - much smarter man than you or I.

Yeah and the statistic that's lying is the 1-4 at the end. It's the least representative and tells you the least about the team.

 

[BWCD]

If baseball were as random as you say it is, and we can't control it at all, then we're just one of the luckier programs in college baseball, I guess.

No you're just struggling with comprehension again.

The reason why we win a lot is because in baseball there are a lot of games. The more games played the more likely the better team comes out on top.

Conversely when the sample size is smaller the results are more random.

Are you suggesting the CWS be a 50-game marathon for each team? Are we ensured that the "best" team will win, due to a bigger sample size?

You must be a statistician by trade, because you keep harping on percentages and sample sizes.

The problem is, with your sample size, any season has to come down to ONE GAME. Your logic on sample size is flawed at it's crux when it comes to determining a champion.

 

[BWCD]

There are lies, **** lies, and then there's statistics. Mark Twain said that - much smarter man than you or I.

Yeah and the statistic that's lying is the 1-4 at the end. It's the least representative and tells you the least about the team.

Again - too bad that's when the chips were down, and we were one of 8 teams playing for a national title. I still cannot see how that doesn't matter in even a small way to you.

And the only question any of us are asking, aside from your copouts of randomness/bad luck, why is 1-4 the outlier the past 2 years? If you don't like our reasoning on why, or who we're aiming any criticism at, you're well within your rights to sit down and STFU.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

I'm sorry, but if you win the National Title, you are BY ******* DEFINITION the best team.

Fanboy retardation personified.

 

[BWCD]

.Why do we even play if it's SOOOO random?

Now you're just trying to save face because even the most clueless people on Earth know that baseball is the most random sport in the world.

We play because we're competitors and we want to win the championship. Unfortunately while the format is fun and dramatic it also very random and doesn't crown the best team.

So now you're dismissing Omaha because you don't like the format of the CWS.

That's asinine.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

I'm sorry, but if you win the National Title, you are BY ******* DEFINITION the best team. That's why we play the games to begin with.

If you win the national championship you're the national champion.

That's why they play.

The fact that someone has to tell you this is embarrassing.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

One has nothing to do with the other. No way to equate it at all.

Just like Omaha results have nothing to do with regular season ones.

Or Omaha results have nothing to do with Jim Morris' ability to manage a team to Omaha success.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Then why play in it if it's so random? Are you trying to say that the CWS has it wrong, and we need to go to a different system to help eliminate some of this randomness/bad luck?

Again you're just trying to save face here.

Nothing rational or level-headed about it.

 

[BWCD]

I'm sorry, but if you win the National Title, you are BY ******* DEFINITION the best team.

Fanboy retardation personified.

It's facts, man. The year Fresno State won it all, they were crowned the champions, and the best team that year. Now, the opinion of others may have been that Rice or someone else was the "best team" that year, but the trophy sitting in Fresno today tells another story.

So...any year we won National Titles in Football or Baseball, were we not the "best team"? Should we give the trophies back in any of those years by your logic?

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Are you suggesting the CWS be a 50-game marathon for each team? Are we ensured that the "best" team will win, due to a bigger sample size?

No and no reasonable person would even ask that silly question.

I'm simply telling you that the current format is no conducive to crowning the best team.

 

[BWCD]

I'm sorry, but if you win the National Title, you are BY ******* DEFINITION the best team. That's why we play the games to begin with.

If you win the national championship you're the national champion.

That's why they play.

The fact that someone has to tell you this is embarrassing.

The fact that you're downplaying winning national titles is, well...they haven't created a word for that yet.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Again - too bad that's when the chips were down, and we were one of 8 teams playing for a national title. I still cannot see how that doesn't matter in even a small way to you.

It does matter. I'd like to win it again. But I just understand that a lot of it is luck and we've had great teams that didn't win in Omaha.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

why is 1-4 the outlier the past 2 years?

Because we went 99-27 in all the other games and we went 10-2 in all the other NCAA Tournament games.

That's an easy one.

 

[BWCD]

One has nothing to do with the other. No way to equate it at all.

Just like Omaha results have nothing to do with regular season ones.

Never tried to equate the two, Mr. "just baseball games". Thought we established that the former was more important than the latter?

Or Omaha results have nothing to do with Jim Morris' ability to manage a team to Omaha success.

Strip away all of the qualifiers, and you just said that "results have nothing to do with ability/success".

Wow.

[video=youtube;LQCU36pkH7c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/video]

 

[Brian Piccolo]

So now you're dismissing Omaha because you don't like the format of the CWS.

I don't dismiss it.

I watch it.

It's good fun.

But I know that it's all over the place.

 

[BWCD]

Are you suggesting the CWS be a 50-game marathon for each team? Are we ensured that the "best" team will win, due to a bigger sample size?

No and no reasonable person would even ask that silly question.

I'm simply telling you that the current format is no conducive to crowning the best team.

Pointing out a problem is useless without offering a solution.

So, since you're so smart...give us the solution. This is what discussion is all about. If you're going to complain about the CWS format and that's it, you're whining. If you want to offer a solution, go ahead.

Otherwise, sit this one out.