The game I'd love to see...

Ya'll gettin' trolled on a non-troll board.

No it's not like that. 2001 canes were a great team and I'm not taking anything away from them. Consider for a moment though that maybe... just maybe.... there is a little bit of homerism going on right now on this thread.

We all know about all the NFL players on that team so that's not even the point. The 2002 Canes had a lot of NFL players as well, no? Well they didn't win it all. That's because there's more to winning than having a ton of NFL talent on your roster.

We're headed in the right direction under Al Golden. Sorry, though, you'll never convince me that any team coached by Larry Coker could ever beat Nick Saban's Alabama. It ain't happening.

2002 was the most talented team of all time NOT to win the MNC. Ken Dorsey was back for his senior season, I mean we were smoking. We still managed to blow it. 2001 could have ended up the same way except, you gotta admit, aside from FSU we didn't play anybody.

The main takeaway here is: Larry Coker sucks balls.
 
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This Alabama OL makes them all time worthy. One of the best Ive ever seen. Absolute beasts.
 
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But anyone who thinks that there is another amateur football team that could have beaten the 2001 Miami Hurricanes needs to be tested.
 
No it's not like that. 2001 canes were a great team and I'm not taking anything away from them. Consider for a moment though that maybe... just maybe.... there is a little bit of homerism going on right now on this thread.

We all know about all the NFL players on that team so that's not even the point. The 2002 Canes had a lot of NFL players as well, no? Well they didn't win it all. That's because there's more to winning than having a ton of NFL talent on your roster.

We're headed in the right direction under Al Golden. Sorry, though, you'll never convince me that any team coached by Larry Coker could ever beat Nick Saban's Alabama. It ain't happening.

2002 was the most talented team of all time NOT to win the MNC. Ken Dorsey was back for his senior season, I mean we were smoking. We still managed to blow it. 2001 could have ended up the same way except, you gotta admit, aside from FSU we didn't play anybody.

The main takeaway here is: Larry Coker sucks balls.

The main takeaway is we turned the ball over how many times in that games & Terry Porter is a ****face! In all honesty we didn't deserve to win that game & it still had to be handed to OSU. That's how good we were!
 
No it's not like that. 2001 canes were a great team and I'm not taking anything away from them. Consider for a moment though that maybe... just maybe.... there is a little bit of homerism going on right now on this thread.

We all know about all the NFL players on that team so that's not even the point. The 2002 Canes had a lot of NFL players as well, no? Well they didn't win it all. That's because there's more to winning than having a ton of NFL talent on your roster.

We're headed in the right direction under Al Golden. Sorry, though, you'll never convince me that any team coached by Larry Coker could ever beat Nick Saban's Alabama. It ain't happening.

2002 was the most talented team of all time NOT to win the MNC. Ken Dorsey was back for his senior season, I mean we were smoking. We still managed to blow it. 2001 could have ended up the same way except, you gotta admit, aside from FSU we didn't play anybody.

The main takeaway here is: Larry Coker sucks balls.

The main takeaway is we turned the ball over how many times in that games & Terry Porter is a ****face! In all honesty we didn't deserve to win that game & it still had to be handed to OSU. That's how good we were!

Like there were truly forces of nature at work that defy logic. Roscoe fumbling that ball when we were about to blow their doors off in the 2nd half. Sean getting pick pocketed. Glenn Sharpe's RETARDED coverage on Jenkins on 4th and 14. I mean it was just ridiculous. and we STILL won the game.
 
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No it's not like that. 2001 canes were a great team and I'm not taking anything away from them. Consider for a moment though that maybe... just maybe.... there is a little bit of homerism going on right now on this thread.

We all know about all the NFL players on that team so that's not even the point. The 2002 Canes had a lot of NFL players as well, no? Well they didn't win it all. That's because there's more to winning than having a ton of NFL talent on your roster.

We're headed in the right direction under Al Golden. Sorry, though, you'll never convince me that any team coached by Larry Coker could ever beat Nick Saban's Alabama. It ain't happening.

2002 was the most talented team of all time NOT to win the MNC. Ken Dorsey was back for his senior season, I mean we were smoking. We still managed to blow it. 2001 could have ended up the same way except, you gotta admit, aside from FSU we didn't play anybody.

The main takeaway here is: Larry Coker sucks balls.

The main takeaway is we turned the ball over how many times in that games & Terry Porter is a ****face! In all honesty we didn't deserve to win that game & it still had to be handed to OSU. That's how good we were!

That's all a part of the game. Alabama doesn't make mistakes like that in big games. I think they had like 2 penalties and no turnovers. That's why they would beat us under Coker.

If Al Golden is what I think he is.... look out world.
 
I think there are even other Canes teams that could have beaten the 2001 team.

On the premise of coaching, maybe... But that's just analytical side of separating one part of the process. Butch wasn't exactly a great game day coach either. Bama will never amass the skill players we have though. They get great DL, OL, LB'ers but the receiver corp isn't as dynamic as what we will field in 2013. A freshman WR is their best WR.
 
But anyone who thinks that there is another amateur football team that could have beaten the 2001 Miami Hurricanes needs to be tested.

I think there are even other Canes teams that could have beaten the 2001 team.

It's an extremely tall task man. People call that '01 team a pro team and every time they say it they need to be corrected. Check the stats. It's a PRO BOWL team.
 
It's amusing how these hypothetical matchups are always a rout. Like on golf message boards, it's either Tiger routing Jack or Jack routing Tiger, depending who you listen to. There's no risk since it's never going to happen, so everybody is happy to project to the extremes.

Defensively, this is the most vulnerable Alabama team in years. Their yards per pass attempt rose to 6.0 from the surreal 4.3 of last season. But I'm still not willing to assume victory, let alone a lopsided victory, over a team with that many athletes and so well coached. I think McCarron would give us fits, backed by that type of running game and with such tremendous schemes. Nebraska 2001 was an incredibly vulnerable team so that final image provides a skewed appraisal of 2001 Miami. I realize nobody will agree but I think Ohio State 2002 would have given the 2001 Canes plenty of trouble. Not enough to win, but certainly not blown out. That was a nightmare opponent that I dreaded all season in 2002.

After our results against teams like Penn State 1986, Alabama 1992 and Ohio State 2002, IMO it's fairly amusing to assume a giant victory over Alabama from this era. Matchups from position to position sound cute but bottom line the opponent is going to feature an astronomical power rating, very similar to our own.
 
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It's amusing how these hypothetical matchups are always a rout. Like on golf message boards, it's either Tiger routing Jack or Jack routing Tiger, depending who you listen to. There's no risk since it's never going to happen, so everybody is happy to project to the extremes.

Defensively, this is the most vulnerable Alabama team in years. Their yards per pass attempt rose to 6.0 from the surreal 4.3 of last season. But I'm still not willing to assume victory, let alone a lopsided victory, over a team with that many athletes and so well coached. I think McCarron would give us fits, backed by that type of running game and with such tremendous schemes. Nebraska 2001 was an incredibly vulnerable team so that final image provides a skewed appraisal of 2001 Miami. I realize nobody will agree but I think Ohio State 2002 would have given the 2001 Canes plenty of trouble. Not enough to win, but certainly not blown out. That was a nightmare opponent that I dreaded all season in 2002.

After our results against teams like Penn State 1986, Alabama 1992 and Ohio State 2002, IMO it's fairly amusing to assume a giant victory over Alabama from this era. Matchups from position to position sound cute but bottom line the opponent is going to feature an astronomical power rating, very similar to our own.

The thing about McCarron is that he doesn't move. I'd be interested to see how our line would hold up against Bama's front. Big Daddy Wilfork and Joseph vs. Barrett, Steen, and Warmack would be a clash that could create a 2nd grand canyon. Lacy would truck Vilma. ALOT lol, but I really don't think Bama would be able to stop us on offense. As good as Dee Milliner is, Dre would eat that boy alive and there is absolutely NO answer for Jeremy Shockey. Shockey, Portis, and AJ set our whole offense off in 2001 man. Couldn't focus on one dude and by the way they wouldn't touch Dorsey.
 
I hate to live in the past and I like our future, but the recent results have me thinking about match-ups that would be amazing to see. In light of Bama's recent success I'd love to see our 2001 team vs. an All-star made from Bama's last 3 teams that have made it to the NC game.

Thoughts? Other match-ups?

I think this year's Alabama team beats our 2001 team for two reasons: lines and coaching. Flame away.

2001 Miami had a better offensive line and much better defensive line.

Disagree.

gtfoh - The DL is indisputable and our OL gave up 4 sacks and produced a few NFL pro bowlers
 
You have to love how the argument switches from the 2001 teams success to the 2002 teams failures, as the backdrop of how we would not beat Bama.

Saban is a **** of a coach, and Bama deserves a lot of respect, but don't get it crossed.

The 2001 team , would have curbed stomped Bama.

Don't give me this ****, that we played in the Big East, and they play in the SEC.

We played in the Big East for a long *** time, and when it was our time to play the so called big boys we answered the bell.

When this program, was running right, there was no **** about how we faltered. Like all these **** programs around today, or even in that time.

Need to check your cane card @ the door homie, cause you are boarding on treason.
 
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And I love the big east then vs sec now argument. Cause there are sec west teams this year that had a Dwight Freeney on their dine. Or even a Darnell Dockett for that matter since we can talk about teams Miami played.
 
When Miami is running right, no one can touch them........not even the supposedly now untouchable Tide. I can understand why having the two laziest and incompetent head coaches on the planet for the past decade can change a persons view but don't get it twisted. Let Butch Davis not go to Cleveland and commit to Miami's apex like Saban is with Bama, the Tide would be an afterthought just like everyone else. God help college football if Miami ever gets a long standing successful coach and face of the program. More titles in the past 30 years than anyone without that luxury, something no other program can claim.
 
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It's amusing how these hypothetical matchups are always a rout. Like on golf message boards, it's either Tiger routing Jack or Jack routing Tiger, depending who you listen to. There's no risk since it's never going to happen, so everybody is happy to project to the extremes.

Defensively, this is the most vulnerable Alabama team in years. Their yards per pass attempt rose to 6.0 from the surreal 4.3 of last season. But I'm still not willing to assume victory, let alone a lopsided victory, over a team with that many athletes and so well coached. I think McCarron would give us fits, backed by that type of running game and with such tremendous schemes. Nebraska 2001 was an incredibly vulnerable team so that final image provides a skewed appraisal of 2001 Miami. I realize nobody will agree but I think Ohio State 2002 would have given the 2001 Canes plenty of trouble. Not enough to win, but certainly not blown out. That was a nightmare opponent that I dreaded all season in 2002.

After our results against teams like Penn State 1986, Alabama 1992 and Ohio State 2002, IMO it's fairly amusing to assume a giant victory over Alabama from this era. Matchups from position to position sound cute but bottom line the opponent is going to feature an astronomical power rating, very similar to our own.

No one is assuming a "giant" victory, but if you watched Alabama closely this year, you saw their weakest champion. They had all but lost that LSU game and it wasn't some "flukey" turnover game (like our BC game) or anything like that. They were outgained by nearly 33% in total yards, LSU had 2x the time of possession. Oh, the refs? Nope. Alabama was called for 1 penalty the whole game and LSU was called for 7. LSU converted 10 of 20 3rd downs while Alabama converted about 10%. It took such an emotional breakdown by LSU and upswing by Alabama, that they were virtually sapped the next week (their lone loss).

This Alabama team was also its most vulnerable against good Offensive Tackles - just what TAMU has. What did the 2001 University of Miami have at Tackle? Two All-Americans.

People will overstate this version of the Alabama team because their lasting impression was a beatdown of a completely overmatched Notre Dame team. But, let's not push this too far.
 
This is a joke. Alabama is a nice team but they've dominated a weak era in college football. College football and basketball are two sports that have been in a steady decline. There hasn't been a great college team since the USC teams 7 years ago.
 
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