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The Decline of South Florida

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DMoney said:
The key for national recruiting is budget. As the stats showed in the full article, we had terrible results nationally before our budget exploded. The South Florida signees were way better on average despite the many local whiffs.

When you have the budget to hire Cristobal and pay six-figures for national players, the map expands considerably. And the timing is perfect because South Florida has been slipping lately.
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Which is why it’s so important for Miami moving forward not finishing second for the Jeremiah Smiths if the world. It also doesn’t mean Miami can’t land kids in Georgia Alabama etc. and still be talented. Great post bro
 
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ilovelamp said:
Don't believe it's been mentioned but shifting demographics might have something to do with it. With the incoming wealth migration from NY, CA etc to the area it's become very expensive to raise a family in this. area. Even before the last few years young families in Miami had been heading north to Broward and I wonder if that trend is accelerating more north or out of state.
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This is a fact!! I was born and raised in Miami went to HS in the inner city and my entire no longer lives in Miami anymore. Some move north in state but the majority left the state to other parts of the country. In 10 yrs NW and other inner city schools will become a shell of it once was in football. GA, TX, TN, Carolinas will benefit greatly from the exodus.
 
gogeta4 said:
should make russell a priority in both sports next szn. Basketball n Football

My qb will likely be slinging them the ball this year at MNW.

Russell, Card, Flowers (cb) are kids we should be on from MNW.

I like Card more than Josh Moore who the Gators beat us out for but i get it as Moore frame is ELITE at 6'4 205.
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in Gogeta I Trust
 
k9cane said:
Here's a list/roster of standout Hurricanes that are from OOS. I put this together back in December. I basically went off the top of my head, so I know there are some omissions.....

QB - Vinny Testaverde (NY), Bernie Kosar (OH), Steve Walsh (MN), Gino Torretta (CA), Scott Covington (CA), Ken Dorsey (CA), Brock Berlin (LA), Brad Kaaya (CA), Malik Rosier (AL),

RB/FB- Stephen McGuire (NY), Keith Griffin (OH), Chuck Foreman(MD), Derrick Harris (TX), Nick Williams (MI), Graig Cooper (TN), Jarret Payton (ILL), Deejay Dallas (GA)

WR - Andre Brown (Ill), Reggie Wayne (LA), Braxton Berrios (NC), Kevin Williams (TX), Wesley Carroll (OH), Daryl Jones (TX), AC Tellison (TX), KJ Osborn (MI)

OL - Bryant McKinnie (NJ), Brett Romberg (CAN), Richard Mercier (CAN), Jason Fox (TX), Eric Winston (TX), Dennis Harrah (WV), Sherko Haji-Rausoli(CAN), Martin Bibla (PA) Gregg Rakozcy (NJ), Carlos Etheridge (NM), KC Jones (TX), Mike Sullivan (ILL), Seantrel Henderson(MN) Rod Holder (ILL)

TE- Glenn Dennison (PA), Rob Chudzinski (OH). Bubba Franks(TX), Jeremy Shockey (OK), Kellen Winslow II (CA), David Njoku (NJ), Greg Olsen (NJ), Chris Herndon (GA), Mondriel Fulcher(KS), Brevin Jordan (NV)

K- Michael Badgley (NJ), Dane Prewitt (AL)

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DL - Calais Campbell (CO), Darren Krein (CO), Greg Mark (NJ), Danny Stubbs (NJ), Rusty Meaderis (MO), Damione Lewis (TX), Cortez Kenned(ARK), Russell Maryland (ILL), Jaelen Phillips (CA), Jamaal Green (NJ), Allen Bailey (GA), Shane Curry (OH), Mark Caeser(NJ), Pat Riley (LA)

LB- DJ Williams (CA), Jessie Armstead (TX), Corwin Francis (TX), Jay Brophy(OH), Chris Campbell (TX)

DB- Ed Reed (LA), Tremain Mack (TX), Charles Pharms (TX), Terris Harris (TN), Casey Greer(TN), Corn Elder (TN), Vaughn Telemaque (CA) , Marcus Maxey (TX), James Lewis (NJ), Marcus Wimberly (TN),
CJ Richardson (TX), Bubba Bolden (NV), Mike Jackson (AL)

P- Jeff Feagles (AZ), Lou Hedley (AUS), Todd Sievers (IOWA)
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I know specialists get no love, but Sievers was an All-American kicker (not punter).
 
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htownkidd said:
Know this wasn’t easy for you D, we are here for you.
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I have to call balls and strikes.

My guess is that it’s just a cycle of prospects in the same age range who underachieved at the same time. The physical talent was there.

Kids like Jeremiah Smith and Rueben Bain have the mindset to match the physical. There will be others like them who emerge.

In the meantime, Mario and Canes Connection’s ability to win national battles is a game-changer. The timing is perfect with the local downturn.
 
@DMoney in your judgement how does the Florida taxes effect NIL with prospects? Itd be an interesting podcast on Miamis NIL advantages and disadvantages. Seems to me higher taxed states prospects would want to come to Florida schools.
 
dasqueel said:
@DMoney in your judgement how does the Florida taxes effect NIL with prospects? Itd be an interesting podcast on Miamis NIL advantages and disadvantages. Seems to me higher taxed states prospects would want to come to Florida schools.
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It helps when we are trying to flip a kid like Stubbs from USC.
 
brock said:
Gus Edward’s, while not as productive at Miami he still went on to be very productive in the nfl and graduated from Miami
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I thought he left Miami to go to Rutgers his Senior year? Did he not graduate from Rutgers and went to the NFL and then got his degree from Miami while in the NFL??
 
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2 points.

I don’t love this as a lead article on the front page of this website; and

Good reality write up….pretty **** good.

Cheers.

UM
 
k9cane said:
Here's a list/roster of standout Hurricanes that are from OOS. I put this together back in December. I basically went off the top of my head, so I know there are some omissions.....

QB - Vinny Testaverde (NY), Bernie Kosar (OH), Steve Walsh (MN), Gino Torretta (CA), Scott Covington (CA), Ken Dorsey (CA), Brock Berlin (LA), Brad Kaaya (CA), Malik Rosier (AL),

RB/FB- Stephen McGuire (NY), Keith Griffin (OH), Chuck Foreman(MD), Derrick Harris (TX), Nick Williams (MI), Graig Cooper (TN), Jarret Payton (ILL), Deejay Dallas (GA)

WR - Andre Brown (Ill), Reggie Wayne (LA), Braxton Berrios (NC), Kevin Williams (TX), Wesley Carroll (OH), Daryl Jones (TX), AC Tellison (TX), KJ Osborn (MI)

OL - Bryant McKinnie (NJ), Brett Romberg (CAN), Richard Mercier (CAN), Jason Fox (TX), Eric Winston (TX), Dennis Harrah (WV), Sherko Haji-Rausoli(CAN), Martin Bibla (PA) Gregg Rakozcy (NJ), Carlos Etheridge (NM), KC Jones (TX), Mike Sullivan (ILL), Seantrel Henderson(MN) Rod Holder (ILL)

TE- Glenn Dennison (PA), Rob Chudzinski (OH). Bubba Franks(TX), Jeremy Shockey (OK), Kellen Winslow II (CA), David Njoku (NJ), Greg Olsen (NJ), Chris Herndon (GA), Mondriel Fulcher(KS), Brevin Jordan (NV)

K- Michael Badgley (NJ), Dane Prewitt (AL)

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DL - Calais Campbell (CO), Darren Krein (CO), Greg Mark (NJ), Danny Stubbs (NJ), Rusty Meaderis (MO), Damione Lewis (TX), Cortez Kenned(ARK), Russell Maryland (ILL), Jaelen Phillips (CA), Jamaal Green (NJ), Allen Bailey (GA), Shane Curry (OH), Mark Caeser(NJ), Pat Riley (LA)

LB- DJ Williams (CA), Jessie Armstead (TX), Corwin Francis (TX), Jay Brophy(OH), Chris Campbell (TX)

DB- Ed Reed (LA), Tremain Mack (TX), Charles Pharms (TX), Terris Harris (TN), Casey Greer(TN), Corn Elder (TN), Vaughn Telemaque (CA) , Marcus Maxey (TX), James Lewis (NJ), Marcus Wimberly (TN),
CJ Richardson (TX), Bubba Bolden (NV), Mike Jackson (AL)

P- Jeff Feagles (AZ), Lou Hedley (AUS), Todd Sievers (IOWA)
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Well done sir! Some of our greatest players over the years were from OOS-Especially gems like Maryland and Kennedy-Nobody knew nothing about them we found them developed them the rest is history.
 
Money has a lot to do with it-Especially in coaching -The pay for coaches down here absolutely sucks-The stipend these guys receive to give up their time is a disgrace I don’t blame them for leaving going out of state for better paying jobs.
 
Timmy T-Bags $$$ said:
I thought he left Miami to go to Rutgers his Senior year? Did he not graduate from Rutgers and went to the NFL and then got his degree from Miami while in the NFL??
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Most football players, especially out of state guys who don’t go home as much complete their bachelor’s program in three years or slightly more. They often take classes in both summer terms.
 
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To be honest Miami has a better shot getting elite kids outside of South Florida anyway. I’ve seen that elite elite kids down here want to get away far too often. We’ve been almost 0 for all of them since Coker

Sony Michel
Calvin Cook
Mathew Thomas
Pat Surtain
Tyson Campbell
Jordan Battle
Jeremiah Smith
Jerry Jeaudy
Amari Cooper
Calvin Ridley
Dallas Turner
Patrick Peterson
Teddy Bridgewater
Joey Boss
Nick Bosa
Lemarcus Joyner
TAMU cuck DT
 
I think it's a culture thing.

To me, other cultures, especially nationally, are changing and it's hard for a Florida kid to mesh with that.

Cormani to Colorado? Chubba Purdy to Florida State? I called these mis-fits from the jump.

Foremost, I think a kid has to go where he feels comfortable/confident within himself.
 
gogeta4 said:
On the bolded i would be recruiting this kid...

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Speaking of the west his twitter says he transferred to Miami Northwestern.
 
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DMoney said:
I have to call balls and strikes.

My guess is that it’s just a cycle of prospects in the same age range who underachieved at the same time. The physical talent was there.

Kids like Jeremiah Smith and Rueben Bain have the mindset to match the physical. There will be others like them who emerge.

In the meantime, Mario and Canes Connection’s ability to win national battles is a game-changer. The timing is perfect with the local downturn.
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I was posting about how few South Florida kids there were in the Top 50, 100 and 200. It's really amazing relative to previous classes. Yet as you say, Mario keeps crushing it in recruiting. If anything, his recruiting is getting stronger. Imagine how dominant we will become when the local football factories produce at their historic levels?!
 
88 said:
To be honest Miami has a better shot getting elite kids outside of South Florida anyway. I’ve seen that elite elite kids down here want to get away far too often. We’ve been almost 0 for all of them since Coker

Sony Michel
Calvin Cook
Mathew Thomas
Pat Surtain
Tyson Campbell
Jordan Battle
Jeremiah Smith
Jerry Jeaudy
Amari Cooper
Calvin Ridley
Dallas Turner
Patrick Peterson
Teddy Bridgewater
Joey Boss
Nick Bosa
Lemarcus Joyner
TAMU cuck DT
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If we were winning with the NIL program we have in place now, we get over half those recruits. Plus another 50 you didn't list.
 
88 said:
To be honest Miami has a better shot getting elite kids outside of South Florida anyway. I’ve seen that elite elite kids down here want to get away far too often. We’ve been almost 0 for all of them since Coker

Sony Michel
Calvin Cook
Mathew Thomas
Pat Surtain
Tyson Campbell
Jordan Battle
Jeremiah Smith
Jerry Jeaudy
Amari Cooper
Calvin Ridley
Dallas Turner
Patrick Peterson
Teddy Bridgewater
Joey Boss
Nick Bosa
Lemarcus Joyner
TAMU cuck DT
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A lot of these kids did not want to go away just to go away. Our program had no stability or execution. Plus there were self-inflicted wounds in a few of these cases too.
 
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