That Tennessee offense!

[Rellyrell]

FIFY. We still do ish like take a kicker 2nd round as recently as '16, but yea it was sweet for yall until we got this dude knocking out his own bro in law who played for Chi lol.

BTW, I may be a lil bias cause I dont think D. Brooks got the love he deserved while playing, but Urlacher was a lil overrated to me.....

No, I’ve had arguments about Lach. Love his time here, but yeah, he was a bit overrated & Lance Briggs don’t get the love he deserves.

 

[DTP]

Who tf big name recruit picks UCF???

You don’t think recruiting matters to g5 programs too? Of course they’re not stealing players from Alabama but if you’re not signing good players, you’re going to get smoked every week.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Wow, that was one of the funnest most exiting offenses I have ever seen. I mean, win or lose, that makes a team fun to watch. Knowing they can go toe to toe with 5* players instead of getting your **** pushed in.

Where can I get one of those for the Canes?

Acting like Tennessee just appeared out of nowhere is silly.

Per a September 2019 article about Georgia dumping $200-million into their program—it listed the Vols as having the third largest recruiting budget and spend ($5-million between 2016 and 2019). They've been spending big for YEARS. It's just now starting to pay off.
(That, and landing Hooker was a program-changer for them.)

They spend big and have put together some nice classes with tremendous facilities:

According to a recent USA Today Network study, the Bulldogs spent about $1.5 million more than any other public university in a Power 5 conference on recruiting during fiscal years 2016 to 2018. The report stated the Bulldogs spent more than $7 million during the three-year period, which was well ahead of the next closest schools, Alabama (about $5.6 million) and Tennessee (about $5 million).

Inside Georgia's $200 million quest to take down Alabama

By spending big on facility upgrades, recruiting and coaches, Georgia is making a financial investment many believed needed to happen for it to compete at the top of the food chain.

www.espn.com

 

[Canesfan1899]

Yes, there is no real explanation for why Duke is more competitive than us. I will say that we have no team speed. Perhaps our coaches are "Big Names" only.

And perhaps the coaches need a little time to bring in some more team speed. Don’t think the cupboards were quite as full as many of us, myself included, thought.

 

[Unsider]

If only we had gotten The Lane Train, or at least hired Brady, Briles, Lebby, or a number of the other guys that were rumored as OC.

Instead, we’re left with the **** that is our offensive scheme, which has looked a little better the past 2 weeks, but is still mightily struggling to put up points. I suspect that 20 or 24 points won’t be good enough next week against Duke, or any of the teams left on our schedule. Duke has 35 tonight against the Heels, we only managed to score 24.

Also, the Holes are playing tough, competitive, and disciplined ball every week. They gave Clemson all they could handle tonight. I don’t see us winning that game, and the Clemson game could get ugly real quick.

No one on this site can honestly tell me that Duke has more talent than us, or that they weren’t a bigger “rebuild”, as many of you are claiming that we now are. Yet Duke has looked miles better than us this season with a brand new HC and staff.

Bottom line is that our staph sucks, and not having the most talented squad that we’ve ever had really compounds it all.

Except for the first paragraph, bullseye! We just need a good OC.

 

[OldhamA]

How do we know they would do well here like they are or would elsewhere? Seriously, maybe the HC’s philosophy is driving the script which may also be the reason we had a hard time hiring an OC???

Well the offence has adapted as the season has gone on, so I've no idea where this "Cristobal is a caveman and wants a plodding offence" narrative has come from.

We're literally throwing the ball 70% of the time now.

 

[OldhamA]

I'm tired of watching garbage *** offenses. Just ******* tired of it.

I'm tired of watching garbage *** players - hopefully Cristobal will change that.

 

[hoops156]

I'm tired of watching garbage *** players - hopefully Cristobal will change that.

hes gonna get the players here. he does it everywhere. its on game day where he's not great. he just doesn't have a good feel for the game and his in game decisions reflect that. **** def get the best talent we've had since the title days though. well hit a ceiling w him though around 10 wins. he just isn't good enough as a coach to take you over the top. maybe he hits gold w a visionary OC and he stays out of his way scheme wise. 10 wins on average is still the best we would have done since our last title so ill take it bc it sets the next guy when we eventually fire mario for not winning a title to actually win if its a better x and o guy

 

[NJshoreCane]

Last year was Norvell’s second season, not his first.

Mario and staff have not shown me anything that tells me we will be able to score 30 points or more against a P5 opponent, which spells trouble against all of our remaining foes.

VT is a horrible team, and we managed only 20. The Heels D is buns, and we only managed 24.

Getting some guys back might help some, but not going up tempo has really hurt our chances to score more points, in my opinion.

My bad. Even worse regarding Norvell and staff.

Agree on all your points.
My post just questioned your opinion on the FSU game.

Duke also.
But I didn't want to jinx us on Saturday.
We'll see then if they're miles ahead of us.

 

[TemplarCane]

Acting like Tennessee just appeared out of nowhere is silly.

Per a September 2019 article about Georgia dumping $200-million into their program—it listed the Vols as having the third largest recruiting budget and spend ($5-million between 2016 and 2019). They've been spending big for YEARS. It's just now starting to pay off.
(That, and landing Hooker was a program-changer for them.)

They spend big and have put together some nice classes with tremendous facilities:

According to a recent USA Today Network study, the Bulldogs spent about $1.5 million more than any other public university in a Power 5 conference on recruiting during fiscal years 2016 to 2018. The report stated the Bulldogs spent more than $7 million during the three-year period, which was well ahead of the next closest schools, Alabama (about $5.6 million) and Tennessee (about $5 million).

Inside Georgia's $200 million quest to take down Alabama

By spending big on facility upgrades, recruiting and coaches, Georgia is making a financial investment many believed needed to happen for it to compete at the top of the food chain.

www.espn.com

Tennesee wasn’t spending on quality HCs though. Now they‘ve made what appears to be a great hire. Thats the payoff.

 

[mossmadness]

I agree that Tenn needs to play better on defense. But despite not being top 20 on D they are 6-0 and just beat Bama. More than that though offenses like theirs are just more exciting to watch. Probably doesn’t hurt recruiting either.

Defense is a lot more talent driven than offense. You better have big time talent on defense if you want to be consistently good defensively.

Offense is where a team can go a lot further with just a system.

Tenn. not having as quick a turnaround defensively makes sense Based on how few recruiting classes the staff has under them.

 

[407cane]

still very early in the season for all the overreaction in this thread.. tennessee is improved but it's not simply an on and off switch, they will fall. even sumlin and manziel knocked off bama.

I'm a UCF grad so I like heupel, but he has his faults

 

[razrcane]

Acting like Tennessee just appeared out of nowhere is silly.

Per a September 2019 article about Georgia dumping $200-million into their program—it listed the Vols as having the third largest recruiting budget and spend ($5-million between 2016 and 2019). They've been spending big for YEARS. It's just now starting to pay off.
(That, and landing Hooker was a program-changer for them.)

They spend big and have put together some nice classes with tremendous facilities:

According to a recent USA Today Network study, the Bulldogs spent about $1.5 million more than any other public university in a Power 5 conference on recruiting during fiscal years 2016 to 2018. The report stated the Bulldogs spent more than $7 million during the three-year period, which was well ahead of the next closest schools, Alabama (about $5.6 million) and Tennessee (about $5 million).

Inside Georgia's $200 million quest to take down Alabama

By spending big on facility upgrades, recruiting and coaches, Georgia is making a financial investment many believed needed to happen for it to compete at the top of the food chain.

www.espn.com

They’ve always had a large recruiting budget bc they have to. There’s not much talent in TN and they have always recruited nationally.

 

[NJcane55]

You havent seen anything yet wait until mario’s offense gets rolling

 

[cway313]

I’ve been stumping for Heupel since 2018...

That’s why anytime people mention Leach I always say his disciples are significantly better than him.

They took his & Hal Mumme’s elite revolutionary passing concepts & combined with the Spread rushing attack.

And now in modern day Football it’s the most difficult Offense to defend against & literally levels the playing field, even when you’re up against defensive talent that far outweighs you & is better overall athletically.

I know I’m a broken record, but this is where my frustration has come from with this program for such a long **** time & why I (used to lol) have such impassioned debates with people on here who for whatever reason were against us becoming a more high powered Offensive centric team & thought that we needed to transform into “tUfF & FiZiCuLL!” Lol.

A team like Tenn couldn’t have beat Bama any other way; when you’re overmatched against a team that has a significant talent advantage over you, your best bet is to make it a shoot out & the only way you can hang in a shoot out is if you’re equipped to do it, which means you have to throw the Football a lot... I know, I know that sacrilegious, but in today’s game, you can’t win big games like this without a potent offense & unless you have a roster like UGA’s or an OL & Defense like Michigan’s, you’re not gonna pound the rock to victory against really good teams like Bama.

Yes it’s about “Jimmy’s & Joe’s!”, but whether people realize it or not X’s & O’s are just as/if not more important. Having a good Offense is the most key cog in today’s era to be a winning program, that doesn’t mean you’ll win a Natty just because of your Offense (I’m not saying that), but if you want to be a 10+ win team & a perennial contender you’re gonna have a really rough go of it if you don’t have an Offense.

#SchemeMatters

Thoughts on the moderate changes Gattis has implemented .

 

[Boots]

still very early in the season for all the overreaction in this thread.. tennessee is improved but it's not simply an on and off switch, they will fall. even sumlin and manziel knocked off bama.

I'm a UCF grad so I like heupel, but he has his faults

I think they match up extremely well with Georgia and should take care of business rest of way. Defensively they stop the run and rush the passer well. Bama was their toughest match and they won. Imo they make playoffs

 

[Torocane]

I’ve been stumping for Heupel since 2018...

That’s why anytime people mention Leach I always say his disciples are significantly better than him.

They took his & Hal Mumme’s elite revolutionary passing concepts & combined with the Spread rushing attack.

And now in modern day Football it’s the most difficult Offense to defend against & literally levels the playing field, even when you’re up against defensive talent that far outweighs you & is better overall athletically.

I know I’m a broken record, but this is where my frustration has come from with this program for such a long **** time & why I (used to lol) have such impassioned debates with people on here who for whatever reason were against us becoming a more high powered Offensive centric team & thought that we needed to transform into “tUfF & FiZiCuLL!” Lol.

A team like Tenn couldn’t have beat Bama any other way; when you’re overmatched against a team that has a significant talent advantage over you, your best bet is to make it a shoot out & the only way you can hang in a shoot out is if you’re equipped to do it, which means you have to throw the Football a lot... I know, I know that sacrilegious, but in today’s game, you can’t win big games like this without a potent offense & unless you have a roster like UGA’s or an OL & Defense like Michigan’s, you’re not gonna pound the rock to victory against really good teams like Bama.

Yes it’s about “Jimmy’s & Joe’s!”, but whether people realize it or not X’s & O’s are just as/if not more important. Having a good Offense is the most key cog in today’s era to be a winning program, that doesn’t mean you’ll win a Natty just because of your Offense (I’m not saying that), but if you want to be a 10+ win team & a perennial contender you’re gonna have a really rough go of it if you don’t have an Offense.

#SchemeMatters

I admittedly don't know ****....but Tennessee looked tuff and physical to me lol

 

[Torocane]

Ever notice Alabama almost always struggles with really good offenses with really good quarterbacks?

Yeah they are very unique in that lol

 

[Supacane954]

That Tennessee oline was the difference, literally made Alabama D-line non existent

 

[Torocane]

Like I said, coaches get married to the system that got them to the HC ranks. Since Diaz was a defensive coach, I don't think changing the offensive scheme was as much an issue for him. He was content with giving Lashlee total autonomy.

The problem is that Cristobal is an offensive minded coach. He's not going to change his philosophy on that side of the ball. On defense I'm sure he has a scheme preference but I don't think he'd dictate to Steele what kind scheme he has to run.

This also goes to the constant refrain that Saban was willing to adapt his offense and go to a spread. Saban is a defensive minded coach. He's far more flexible on what happens to that side of the ball. If his teams could be more successful in the spread, he'd bring in a spread OC. IMO the chances that Mario as an offensive minded coach will go to a completely different scheme are slim and the only chance it happens is if/when he's on the hot seat and desperate.

To be fair Saban also did adapt his defense to deal with spread teams...but I get what you are saying.