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Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
 
Tweed said:
I believe they ran their 40 inside the bubble, while the kids in orlando ran outside where it was cold & wet.
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Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
 
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Cane44 said:
what is the knock on Schwartz? with that size and elite speed and his HL tape, idk how he's still like 5th-7th on our WR wish list.... weak in routes? hands?
what do XWilliams, Hightower, etc have over him?
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It's probably just a case of his true future is in track and field. Unfortunately, we aren't a premiere destination for track and field.

People see Schwart's times and think, woah... that's fast. It is, but he's doing it as a two sport athlete against guys who focus solely on track and beating them. How fast would he run of he optimized his body for track?
 
Peter Ariz said:
Few things that jump out at me... DJ Ivey 4.2 shuttle and 35.8 vertical.

Kayode Oladele's numbers are ridiculous. Miami will continue to recruit him.

Dominick Watt is a grown man.

Sitkowski already 6-6 and he's not even 17.
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Also surprised the N. Silvera measured in at 6'2"
 
Jassid82 said:
Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
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Abdullah is 188 and wilder is 200-205 and is 6'2.
 
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Peter Ariz said:
Few things that jump out at me... DJ Ivey 4.2 shuttle and 35.8 vertical.

Kayode Oladele's numbers are ridiculous. Miami will continue to recruit him.

Dominick Watt is a grown man.

Sitkowski already 6-6 and he's not even 17.
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If Sitkowski does not become a top flight QB; I would turn in him into a big time tight end.
 
Jassid82 said:
Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
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Sometimes a "take" is about more than just the numbers!! Likewise..sometimes a "pass"..has nothing to do with the numbers!!
 
252cane said:
Jassid82 said:
Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
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Abdullah is 188 and wilder is 200-205 and is 6'2.
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I hate to see us caught in size like Golden used to do. Speed and quickness, football !Q, violence on the filed and playmaking ability..................it hurt us when we let those kids slipped from out hands and went to other schools. FSU?
 
Charlton and Head have GREAT shuttle times, despite being in the 4.9 range.

I'd take a flyer on Abdullah. If he can't make it as a starter, there's certainly a spot for him as a special teams deamon, a la Weaver twins
 
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Jassid82 said:
Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
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How about skills? Way more to being a football player than size and speed.
 
Liberty City El said:
For the record, I've stated since August of last year that I felt Surtain was overrated & is not the #1 ranked CB in Florida.

Yall know me, I'm not downplaying him just because he's not coming to Miami, I've seen him play live & have never felt he was this Elite CB that's the undisputed best in nation.

Imo, Samuel is the best pure cover corner in Florida, regardless of whether he comes to Miami or not & to me, Tyson Campbell is the best CB on AH.

Surtain is a really good player, he's no doubt top 5 among the 2018 DB's, but I don't think he's as good as he is rated.

Imho, the best CB in the nation is Anthony Cook from Lamar Texas, he's not coming to Miami either, but I think he's a true Elite Ballhawk lockdown CB, with 10INT's on his career despite missing part of his Junior year with an injury.

Surtain Jr only has 4INT's for his career... So does Al Blades Jr.

I could be wrong, but I'm sorry, I don't see the #1 ranked CB in the nation when I watch Surtain Jr play, I see a really good CB/S who if he was named Patrick Sartin Jr would be a 4-star & not as highly touted.
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I think Campbell will be the better player but you can't call Campbell the best CB on heritage if surtain started over him at cb last year while he played more nickel and free safety
 
Kyle Liburd said:
Liberty City El said:
For the record, I've stated since August of last year that I felt Surtain was overrated & is not the #1 ranked CB in Florida.

Yall know me, I'm not downplaying him just because he's not coming to Miami, I've seen him play live & have never felt he was this Elite CB that's the undisputed best in nation.

Imo, Samuel is the best pure cover corner in Florida, regardless of whether he comes to Miami or not & to me, Tyson Campbell is the best CB on AH.

Surtain is a really good player, he's no doubt top 5 among the 2018 DB's, but I don't think he's as good as he is rated.

Imho, the best CB in the nation is Anthony Cook from Lamar Texas, he's not coming to Miami either, but I think he's a true Elite Ballhawk lockdown CB, with 10INT's on his career despite missing part of his Junior year with an injury.

Surtain Jr only has 4INT's for his career... So does Al Blades Jr.

I could be wrong, but I'm sorry, I don't see the #1 ranked CB in the nation when I watch Surtain Jr play, I see a really good CB/S who if he was named Patrick Sartin Jr would be a 4-star & not as highly touted.
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I think Campbell will be the better player but you can't call Campbell the best CB on heritage if surtain started over him at cb last year while he played more nickel and free safety
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Campbell played Safety because AH had Surtain & Marco at CB... But, as a CB Campbell is better imo.
 
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Combo said:
Jassid82 said:
Southcane said:
Abudllah can add weight after he comes in. But as a LB his 40 time being better than the 40 times of our both committed elite RB's is very telling.
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We took Wilder who is the same size and slower then Abdullah but we won't take Abdullah...(according to those in the know on here) Makes no sense to me.
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How about skills? Way more to being a football player than size and speed.
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Not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying Wilder (in HS) was a better football player than Abdullah now? Everyone seems to rave about Abdullah's playmaking ability.
 
Kyle Liburd said:
Liberty City El said:
For the record, I've stated since August of last year that I felt Surtain was overrated & is not the #1 ranked CB in Florida.

Yall know me, I'm not downplaying him just because he's not coming to Miami, I've seen him play live & have never felt he was this Elite CB that's the undisputed best in nation.

Imo, Samuel is the best pure cover corner in Florida, regardless of whether he comes to Miami or not & to me, Tyson Campbell is the best CB on AH.

Surtain is a really good player, he's no doubt top 5 among the 2018 DB's, but I don't think he's as good as he is rated.

Imho, the best CB in the nation is Anthony Cook from Lamar Texas, he's not coming to Miami either, but I think he's a true Elite Ballhawk lockdown CB, with 10INT's on his career despite missing part of his Junior year with an injury.

Surtain Jr only has 4INT's for his career... So does Al Blades Jr.

I could be wrong, but I'm sorry, I don't see the #1 ranked CB in the nation when I watch Surtain Jr play, I see a really good CB/S who if he was named Patrick Sartin Jr would be a 4-star & not as highly touted.
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I think Campbell will be the better player but you can't call Campbell the best CB on heritage if surtain started over him at cb last year while he played more nickel and free safety
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Didn't Yearby start over Dal Cuck?
 
Kyle Liburd said:
Liberty City El said:
For the record, I've stated since August of last year that I felt Surtain was overrated & is not the #1 ranked CB in Florida.

Yall know me, I'm not downplaying him just because he's not coming to Miami, I've seen him play live & have never felt he was this Elite CB that's the undisputed best in nation.

Imo, Samuel is the best pure cover corner in Florida, regardless of whether he comes to Miami or not & to me, Tyson Campbell is the best CB on AH.

Surtain is a really good player, he's no doubt top 5 among the 2018 DB's, but I don't think he's as good as he is rated.

Imho, the best CB in the nation is Anthony Cook from Lamar Texas, he's not coming to Miami either, but I think he's a true Elite Ballhawk lockdown CB, with 10INT's on his career despite missing part of his Junior year with an injury.

Surtain Jr only has 4INT's for his career... So does Al Blades Jr.

I could be wrong, but I'm sorry, I don't see the #1 ranked CB in the nation when I watch Surtain Jr play, I see a really good CB/S who if he was named Patrick Sartin Jr would be a 4-star & not as highly touted.
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I think Campbell will be the better player but you can't call Campbell the best CB on heritage if surtain started over him at cb last year while he played more nickel and free safety
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Why not? I'd strongly argue that, particularly in HS, a safety has a larger impact on a defense than a CB. Maybe Campbell was seen as the more versatile and rangy of the 2 and thus made more sense to play him at FS. Doesn't mean he is any less capable as a CB.
 
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