SteMo

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I was thinking about his mechanics, decision making etc while watching the game the other day. His timing and footwork is wayyyy off and honestly, I do not think he is a good fit for the pistol. The pistol is based off of rhythm and quick reads. He needs to get the ball out faster to allow our wr/te to make plays in space and right now he has gone all Jacory and holds on to the ball too long, stares his guys down and throws so late that the players only have time to make the catch. When is the last ball where he hit one of our wr in stride and he was able to have time to make a guy miss and gain big yards.

I think he was much better when he was under center, he was forced to use his 3-5-7 step drops and that allowed time for the wr to get open then he could make his reads easier. I think the pistol has his steps off and that is forcing the rest of his mechanics to be messed up.

I think for whatever reason, he has begun to rely only on his arm strength and not his players skill. He is not taking the easy throws. He is constantly trying to make the tough outside throw when a lot of the time there is an easy throw right there in front of him. I think the same thing happened to Jacory, he tried to do everything with his arm instead of trusting his playmakers. I think he has drank a bit too much of his own off season cool aid. OC needs to reign him in and let him know his job is to allow his dynamic players to be dynamic by getting them the ball quickly so they can do what they do.

His best plays the past few weeks were on play action. Which to me indicates just what I described. There was one play yesterday where he could have hit Clive on a quick roll out but he held it and hit Asante who was quickly dropped. It really concerned me to see that because the easy throw was right there. There was another later where Waters was crossing the middle wide open and he threw a deep out.

I think SteMo has the ability to change it up as we go. He did late last yr and thats what resulted in his solid play late in the year. I want to see him manage this offense and not play like he is the only offense.

Just my .02
 
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I think he is having issues under center, in the pistol and in shotgun. The only time he consistently makes a proper throw his when he gets out of the pocket and moves with a WR/TE. I agree that playaction has worked well too (he moves on the fake handoff).

I think because of his injury he is afraid to plant and is simply not doing so. I think that he is healed and he can move pretty well too but his brain is telling him not to or he is scared to plant.

As for a that Cleveland play, his hit Cleveland for a larger gain. I thought it was a good play. I think he was saved by that insane Walford catch on one drive, that ball was a rocket. The play that bothered me was when Morris and Walford were rolling out, I think it was 2nd and 4th. Walford is wide open and drops the pas thrown to him. That play was going for at least a first down and possibly a TD. Instead, we run on 3rd down (pick up 3 yards) and on 4th down and turn it over on downs.

The point is that when Morris delivers the ball, it must be caught. We can't make these mistakes against FSU.
 
I'm worried we're going to play the "scared" to throw it offense we've been running.. we're not going to win the game like that, we might keep it close, or make it look better but that's not how you win this type of game.. we need to come out like we did against UF and stick to that.. I think we could have put up more points against UF if we hadn't gone to the coker t so quickly... i'd like to see a play action pass on at least 2 or 3 first downs.. every first down against wake was a run play... we're not going to win if we're only passing when we "have to"
 
I'm worried we're going to play the "scared" to throw it offense we've been running.. we're not going to win the game like that, we might keep it close, or make it look better but that's not how you win this type of game.. we need to come out like we did against UF and stick to that.. I think we could have put up more points against UF if we hadn't gone to the coker t so quickly... i'd like to see a play action pass on at least 2 or 3 first downs.. every first down against wake was a run play... we're not going to win if we're only passing when we "have to"

talking bout the UF game, we had to fold up bc our OL couldn't keep the DL out of the backfield.
 
what we needed more SM threads on his mechanics...

we all KNOW SM is the guy...unless he is hurt he is the guy with 3 or 5 ints against FSU he is the MAN...

If he plays like a senior we win if he plays like he has NO CHANCE....we need to work the chains and run the ball to help him...
 
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it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow
 
it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow

Wow is correct.

There was not 11 drops, I think you mean incompletions. Walford dropped one, he also saved him on another. Let's cancel them out.

Morris still has crap footwork, I am sorry if you disagree. There is a big change since USF, I can't believe you don't see it.
 
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it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow

Wow is correct.

There was not 11 drops, I think you mean incompletions. Walford dropped one, he also saved him on another. Let's cancel them out.

Morris still has crap footwork, I am sorry if you disagree. There is a big change since USF, I can't believe you don't see it.

you dont know what good footwork is suppose to look like. You are not a QB coach, it's always going to be bad in your view of Morris b/c that's how you see him, you cant have "crap" footwork but complete 17/28 passes can you??? didnt know that.

11 incompletions is what i mean.... do you think thats too much, when Clive dropped 1 that wouldve went for a 1st down, but Miami ended up not converting the 4th and 1, 2 plays later.

Also like i said he made the smart decisions to throw the ball away a couple of times, so out of the 11 "incompletions" 1 drop, 2 or 3 balls were thrown away, so that leaves 6-8 incomplete passes that may or may not have been on Morris.

WOW smh
 
This is the problem with many "Strong-armed" QBs; they rely on their arm to compensate for bad timing, faulty footwork, and a lack of anticipation. Even on some of the out patterns, you can see SM waits until after the receiver comes out of his break to throw rather than anticipating the break.
 
This is the problem with many "Strong-armed" QBs; they rely on their arm to compensate for bad timing, faulty footwork, and a lack of anticipation. Even on some of the out patterns, you can see SM waits until after the receiver comes out of his break to throw rather than anticipating the break.

you dont even know what you are talking about
 
Morris is a paradox, he is consistently inconsistent. He's due to get hot though and the next 2 weeks would be an ideal time.
 
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it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow

Wow is correct.

There was not 11 drops, I think you mean incompletions. Walford dropped one, he also saved him on another. Let's cancel them out.

Morris still has crap footwork, I am sorry if you disagree. There is a big change since USF, I can't believe you don't see it.

Gotta roll with Consig on this one. The jump throws are a bit much. It's mind over matter at this point for Morris. He needs to get comfortable ASAP and let it rip.
 
One problem may be that our interior line seems weaker than it should. I see a lot of teams getting push right up the middle, which doesn't allow for a pocket to form. When there is one, SM seems hesitant to step into it and tend to throw while back pedaling, which will cause a high miss every time.
 
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it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow

Wow is correct.

There was not 11 drops, I think you mean incompletions. Walford dropped one, he also saved him on another. Let's cancel them out.

Morris still has crap footwork, I am sorry if you disagree. There is a big change since USF, I can't believe you don't see it.

you dont know what good footwork is suppose to look like. You are not a QB coach, it's always going to be bad in your view of Morris b/c that's how you see him, you cant have "crap" footwork but complete 17/28 passes can you??? didnt know that.

11 incompletions is what i mean.... do you think thats too much, when Clive dropped 1 that wouldve went for a 1st down, but Miami ended up not converting the 4th and 1, 2 plays later.

Also like i said he made the smart decisions to throw the ball away a couple of times, so out of the 11 "incompletions" 1 drop, 2 or 3 balls were thrown away, so that leaves 6-8 incomplete passes that may or may not have been on Morris.

WOW smh

WOW, stop being a child and discuss. Stop fake shaking your head. You are no QB coach either, at least I will fully admit that I am not one.

Listen, do you think his footwork is great? Do you think there are zero issues? It is clear to a novice like myself and the announcers on TV he was having issues, but you let me know.

Yes, 17/28 is not a good game. Morris didn't do much, he made errant throws but instead of turning it over he threw it away. So some improvement. Morris has issues on may passes, so if he fixes some things perhaps he goes 21 for 28. There is a big difference.

Side note: The throwaways are included in the stats for everyone. 60% is nothing to brag about. Sorry he has work to do and needs to set his feet.

Agree to disagree.
 
Hey if your content wit 191 yards passing and not daring to use your qb when you need to win a game like we have the past two weeks than hey good for you. I think that Morris has the ability to be a 24-32 with 325yards type of qb week in week out. So when I see him throwing for meager numbers I wonder whats up. When I see us consistently not throwing late in games, trying to come back no less, it concerns me. There were many throws he missed on Saturday where guys made good catches, the out that was way behind Hurns, the deep ball to Coley that he had no right catching but did cause he a fuggin boss.

I personally really like Morris, I think the kid has the goods. I just hate seeing him not trust his mechanics and players they way he has been lately. I didnt mean to beat a dead horse. They were a few observations I made while watching the game.

Your right I am not a coach, however I do enjoy discussing the X's and O's of the game. With the access you can get on ESPN etc you can learn a lot about the game. Do you ever watch the qb stuff Gruden does every yr before the draft? Half of it is all about footwork. It doesn't take a professional to figure out you dont want your qb backpedaling while throwing even if he does complete it. Just because you have success does not make it right. I expect to see the Passing MVP of that college summer camp look better. And I think he can and will. He just needs to trust his mechanics and teammates.
 
it's the same **** every week.....

Morris mechanics, his footwork, REPEAT.... the **** is making me dizzy.

He went 17/28 against WF, 1 of the 11 drops were on Clive Walford who missed a wide open screen pass that wouldve went for a 1st down.

he did the smart play by throwing the ball away a couple more times in the game, so now we are talking about his mechanics based on 6-8 missed passes in the game.

wow

Wow is correct.

There was not 11 drops, I think you mean incompletions. Walford dropped one, he also saved him on another. Let's cancel them out.

Morris still has crap footwork, I am sorry if you disagree. There is a big change since USF, I can't believe you don't see it.

you dont know what good footwork is suppose to look like. You are not a QB coach, it's always going to be bad in your view of Morris b/c that's how you see him, you cant have "crap" footwork but complete 17/28 passes can you??? didnt know that.

11 incompletions is what i mean.... do you think thats too much, when Clive dropped 1 that wouldve went for a 1st down, but Miami ended up not converting the 4th and 1, 2 plays later.

Also like i said he made the smart decisions to throw the ball away a couple of times, so out of the 11 "incompletions" 1 drop, 2 or 3 balls were thrown away, so that leaves 6-8 incomplete passes that may or may not have been on Morris.

WOW smh

WOW, stop being a child and discuss. Stop fake shaking your head. You are no QB coach either, at least I will fully admit that I am not one.

Listen, do you think his footwork is great? Do you think there are zero issues? It is clear to a novice like myself and the announcers on TV he was having issues, but you let me know.

Yes, 17/28 is not a good game. Morris didn't do much, he made errant throws but instead of turning it over he threw it away. So some improvement. Morris has issues on may passes, so if he fixes some things perhaps he goes 21 for 28. There is a big difference.

Side note: The throwaways are included in the stats for everyone. 60% is nothing to brag about. Sorry he has work to do and needs to set his feet.

Agree to disagree.

i'm not a footwork specialist..... but you cant throw 17/28 w/ "crap" footwork. Show me the sloppy throws that he made b/c of "crappy" footwork in the Wake Forest game.

There were some guys he missed b/c of not making the right reads but for the most part he did a lot better job at making good reads. Throwing the ball away counts against your stats but what's ur point??? that he shouldve just thrown the ball into coverage for an interception???

The balls that he threw away were the smart decisions... those have nothing to do w/ bad mechanics. What r u saying?

you are just reaching trying to blame him for not being perfect. He didnt have a lot of yards or opportunities to throw b/c the defense couldnt get off the field on 3rd down, maybe if they did he wouldve had the opportunity to make those mistakes that you hope he makes, and i would be able to agree w/ your point of view.
 
i'm not a footwork specialist..... but you cant throw 17/28 w/ "crap" footwork. Show me the sloppy throws that he made b/c of "crappy" footwork in the Wake Forest game.

There were some guys he missed b/c of not making the right reads but for the most part he did a lot better job at making good reads. Throwing the ball away counts against your stats but what's ur point??? that he shouldve just thrown the ball into coverage for an interception???

The balls that he threw away were the smart decisions... those have nothing to do w/ bad mechanics. What r u saying?

you are just reaching trying to blame him for not being perfect. He didnt have a lot of yards or opportunities to throw b/c the defense couldnt get off the field on 3rd down, maybe if they did he wouldve had the opportunity to make those mistakes that you hope he makes, and i would be able to agree w/ your point of view.

You're unable to discuss this in a fair manner so let's agree to disagree and move on.
 
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