Stadium Renovations

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Sounds like this deal is definitely going to get done. I know the feelings are mixed on the renderings, but this could be huge for UM. Assuming it does:

-Modern Looking Stadium that gets nationwide pub
-Louder
-Seats Closer
-Better Vendors
-Reduced seating capacity (I believe)
-Potentially more shade during noon/afternoon games (not sure how the actual temp will compare due to ventilation--sure they will do a good job, though)

What is not to like here? I'm personally excited as **** about it. With the Schwartz Center nearing completion, throw in a very modern stadium in a couple years Golden and the boys have a better product to sell to recruits.
 
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Obviously the situation could be exponentially better but beggars can't be choosers and a baby step in the right direction is still a step in the right direction. Go Canes!
 
Any link to an article about the deal is definitely going to get done?
 
Im tellin ya the canopy will amplify the crowd noise

Even if we only got 40K it will sound louder

Check out the euro stadiums with canopys on u tube

Very loud
 
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Are SoFL voters in the mood to vote for a tax increase to fund renovations on a privately owned stadium? I guess we'll find out in May. But it doesn't read like definitely getting done to me.
 
Sounds like this deal is definitely going to get done. I know the feelings are mixed on the renderings, but this could be huge for UM. Assuming it does:

-Modern Looking Stadium that gets nationwide pub
-Louder
-Seats Closer
-Better Vendors
-Reduced seating capacity (I believe)
-Potentially more shade during noon/afternoon games (not sure how the actual temp will compare due to ventilation--sure they will do a good job, though)

What is not to like here? I'm personally excited as **** about it. With the Schwartz Center nearing completion, throw in a very modern stadium in a couple years Golden and the boys have a better product to sell to recruits.


Please let this happen! One of the best parts about the Orange bowl was that we felt like we were part of the game because we were so close to the field. At Joe Robbie you have such a disattached feeling because all the seats are so far from the field.

That, and it makes us that much louder when were close! I know that place will never be the OB, but this will at least help.
 
NO SUPER BOWL = NO PUBLIC FUNDING

Miami Dolphins said Thursday they won’t use county hotel-tax dollars to finance renovations to Sun Life Stadium unless the NFL awards South Florida the 50th or 51st Super Bowl.

Even if Miami-Dade voters approve the funding in a potential May referendum, their decision would be moot if, days later, South Florida does not win Super Bowl L, to be held in 2016, or Super Bowl LI, in 2017.

The decision marks the latest concession from the Dolphins as they seek political support for state and county taxes to upgrade their Miami Gardens football stadium and add an open-air canopy. The team says the renovations are necessary to attract national college football title games and Super Bowls — particularly the showcase 50th game, which South Florida is vying for along with the San Francisco area.

The Dolphins’ proposal has received approval in quick succession from several committees in the Florida Legislature but has not been considered by the full House or Senate. The team wants legislative and voter approval by May 22, when NFL owners will award the two Super Bowls.

Dolphins CEO Mike Dee announced the team’s position to make county funding contingent on a Super Bowl award after returning from NFL owners meetings in Phoenix, a sign that a majority of owners support South Florida’s bid for one of the two big games.

“I can’t tell you which one that will be, but I can tell you that we’re confident that vote is going to go our way,” Dee said in a news conference.

The Super Bowl award condition would technically apply only to county hotel taxes and not to the state sales-tax subsidy the Dolphins are also seeking. But the team has pitched both sources of funding as part of a single deal, so if one stream of money were to go away, the whole plan would likely fall apart.

Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez first raised the possibility of making any county funding conditional on a Super Bowl last month, when the Dolphins agreed to his referendum request.

“I don’t want to be eligible for anything,” the mayor said at the time. “I’d like to see the results and actually land something.”

Dee characterized the Super Bowl condition as a “risk” for the team. He rejected suggestions that the agreement is an attempt by the time-pressed Dolphins to prod ongoing negotiations with Gimenez over a potential funding deal.

Gimenez, Dee and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross met for nearly six hours at County Hall last Friday night. Dee would not say Thursday whether they discussed the Super Bowl award condition at that meeting.

On Thursday, Gimenez asked the Florida Division of Elections to opine on whether the Dolphins could pay for the potential referendum, which the county elections department estimates would cost $3 million to $5 million.

Gimenez had said Miami-Dade would have to bear the expense because an existing state opinion from the 1980s prohibited private entities from funding elections. But in his request to Maria Mathews, head of the elections division in Tallahassee, Gimenez also noted that state law was amended in 1992 to require pari-mutuels to indirectly defray elections costs by depositing an equal sum with the county.

“I do not believe ... that the taxpayers of Miami-Dade County should be forced to shoulder the costs (estimated between $3 million to $5 million) of this election brought about by a request from a private party,” he wrote. “I therefore intend to require the Miami Dolphins organization to pay for the costs of such an election.”

Racetracks indirectly reimbursed Miami-Dade and Broward counties for nearly $7 million spent on a special gambling election in 2005. Several Miami-Dade commissioners have said the Dolphins should pay for the referendum.

A Dolphins spokesman would not say Thursday if the team would be willing to cover the election costs.

“We’ll cross that bridge when we get there,” spokesman Eric Jotkoff said.

Before any referendum could take place, Florida lawmakers must approve legislation allowing the county to raise mainland hotel taxes to 7 percent from 6 percent and providing the Dolphins with an additional, $3 million annual state-tax subsidy.

Under the Dolphins’ initial proposal, owner Ross said private funds would cover just over half of the renovations, with public funds covering the rest. Gimenez said the team’s plan has changed significantly since negotiations began, although neither side has provided details.

Dee announced the Super Bowl award condition along with Rodney Barreto, chair of the South Florida Super Bowl Committee and a vocal Dolphins backer, who pledged that the “core” of any 50th or 51st Super Bowl activities would take place in downtown Miami. The last time Sun Life Stadium hosted a Super Bowl, in 2010, most official NFL activities took place in neighboring Broward.

“You’re going to look for basically the mouth of the [Miami] River north to the Adrienne Arsht Center” for the Performing Arts, Barreto said. He added that the committee has recruited four unnamed event-planning and hosting companies to put together “an incredible production in downtown Miami, the likes that no one’s ever seen before.”

Last week, Barreto’s committee rejected an NFL request to exempt league employees from paying local hotel taxes in exchange for landing a Super Bowl — unlike South Florida’s rival for the 50th game: Santa Clara, Calif., where a $1.2 billion stadium is being built for the San Francisco 49ers.



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/...mi-dolphins-public-funding.html#storylink=cpy
 
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Greedy F owners and players make me sick! That is why I haven't paid for an NFL ticket since 1977 and never will again.
 
Are SoFL voters in the mood to vote for a tax increase to fund renovations on a privately owned stadium? I guess we'll find out in May. But it doesn't read like definitely getting done to me.

Yeah not sure where OP's optimism is coming from. Honestly, I could go either way, I'm sick of funding these corrupt ********.
 
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Saying this is definitely going to get done makes it sound like you were in mitt Romneys inner circle where they were then shocked they lost.
 
Sounds like this deal is definitely going to get done. I know the feelings are mixed on the renderings, but this could be huge for UM. Assuming it does:

-Modern Looking Stadium that gets nationwide pub
-Louder
-Seats Closer
-Better Vendors
-Reduced seating capacity (I believe)
-Potentially more shade during noon/afternoon games (not sure how the actual temp will compare due to ventilation--sure they will do a good job, though)

What is not to like here? I'm personally excited as **** about it. With the Schwartz Center nearing completion, throw in a very modern stadium in a couple years Golden and the boys have a better product to sell to recruits.


Please let this happen! One of the best parts about the Orange bowl was that we felt like we were part of the game because we were so close to the field. At Joe Robbie you have such a disattached feeling because all the seats are so far from the field.

That, and it makes us that much louder! I know that place will never be the OB, but this will at least help.

I hate bringing up these ****** ******* gators but god **** they got the stadium aspect right. Fish bowl style. When you stand on the field it is ******* epic. Why is it that Dolphins/NFL stadiums don't follow suit?
 
The Florida Marlins should be permanently disbanded for the havoc they caused:

First they pay off politicians to ensure they can steal the OB site

Then they blow up the OB and replace it with a freaking modern art museum of a "baseball stadium"

They use their payoffs to somehow get the taxpayers to fit the bill for their joke team.

They then after one season and horrendous attendance get rid of all their players.

And now, the real team in town, the Phins, and the other great team in town, the Canes, are going to struggle to get their stadium upgraded bc people are turned off by the ****ig Marlins.
 
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The Florida Marlins should be permanently disbanded for the havoc they caused:

First they pay off politicians to ensure they can steal the OB site

Then they blow up the OB and replace it with a freaking modern art museum of a "baseball stadium"

They use their payoffs to somehow get the taxpayers to fit the bill for their joke team.

They then after one season and horrendous attendance get rid of all their players.

And now, the real team in town, the Phins, and the other great team in town, the Canes, are going to struggle to get their stadium upgraded bc people are turned off by the ****ig Marlins.

The Marlins sold over 2.2 million tickets last season, ranking 18th out of 30 clubs. However, their stadium has a smaller capacity than most. By stadium capacity % the Marlins ranked 13th in attendance with over 73% on average. I'm no fan of corporate welfare but let's stick to the facts.
 
Are SoFL voters in the mood to vote for a tax increase to fund renovations on a privately owned stadium? I guess we'll find out in May. But it doesn't read like definitely getting done to me.

You realize there is no tax increase hitting the voters, right?

It's paid for with the hotel bed tax. So the voters pay the tax only if/when if they stay in a Dade county hotel. It's a one penny increase to the bed tax.
 
The stadium deal by the Dolphins is very fair, but because of what happened with Marlins and public perception (and lack of education on the issue), this is an uphill battle all the way
 
Obviously the situation could be exponentially better but beggars can't be choosers and a baby step in the right direction is still a step in the right direction. Go Canes!

"Baby step?" After $400M, it will be the ONLY step. Think about it.

Tex
 
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