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TheOriginalCane said:
Because he wins 1 game per year less than Matt Campbell did.

Come on, they are not very smart. They live in Toledo.
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Campbell had a 70% winning pct and Candle has a 62% so you're exactly right. The talk from them is that this season was a let down as expectations were a lot higher.

But 4 of their 6 losses were by 3 points or less including a 3 point away game loss to ND where they put up 29 points and were leading with less than 2 minutes left in the game (great game btw). Losses are still losses but this guy has never had a losing record at Toledo so idk why they're so up in arms.

 
JayCane20 said:
Yes
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Out of curiosity, why do you think Mario zero'd in on Jason Candle vs someone like Sean Lewis or even Tim Lester? Not saying one is better than the other but they're similar in that their young offensive minded, all in the same conference, and Mario doesn't really have any direct connections to either.

Maybe just felt Candle was the most realistic since he's potentially on the hot seat? Candle has better pedigree as a recruiter?

Curious to hear your thoughts too @Liberty City El @htownkidd
 
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JayCane20 said:
It’s very far along. Candle is sitting on it a few days or even slept on it last night and deciding today if I had to guess.

His name got out 2 weeks ago. It’s probably been going on a little before that. I can’t see it dragging on much longer one direction or the other
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Who reached out to whom? Kind of sounds he reached out given his situation. If he was offered, what's there to sit on?
 
Based on some of our best posters here and the fact Mario likes this guy I'm in...I looked him up myself and tried to find anything interesting...he has been the offensive coordinator since 2011 at Toledo (i'm not sure if he or Matt Campbell called the plays) but they averaged at least 31 points with him just being the OC
 
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This makes no sense to me. I just cannot see a DI head coach leaving to take an OC job. I know enos did it but he was on his way out.
 
I'm sorry, but I just don't see where this makes any sense.

If we're this late in the game and we're trying to pull a college head coach, then we have issues. This really concerns me thet we're trying to lure a head coach who has a job.

This doesn't make any sense for Candle regardless of a pay raise to be OC. He's the man in charge of his own program. He'll have a P5 job in the same amount of time as taking the Miami OC job if not sooner. I don't think he'd be here for more than 2 years at best. He'd be uprooting his family just to be in Miami for 2 years.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't benefit Candle. I would love to have him, but I would be more than shocked if he accepted the position.
 
redcane said:
This makes no sense to me. I just cannot see a DI head coach leaving to take an OC job. I know enos did it but he was on his way out.
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Huh? Enos was QB coach at Bama…so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.

As for Candle, it’s because he was completely ignored by other lowly P5 teams for their HC vacancies; plus his contract is up this year and a new AD coming in. He probably thinks he can get paid more here, show off his offense on a national scale, and parlay that with a P5 coaching gig.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
I'm sorry, but I just don't see where this makes any sense.

If we're this late in the game and we're trying to pull a college head coach, then we have issues. This really concerns me thet we're trying to lure a head coach who has a job.

This doesn't make any sense for Candle regardless of a pay raise to be OC. He's the man in charge of his own program. He'll have a P5 job in the same amount of time as taking the Miami OC job if not sooner. I don't think he'd be here for more than 2 years at best.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't benefit Candle. I would love to have him, but I would be more than shocked if he accepted the position.
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He understands that odds for success at Miami as an OC are greater than at Toledo. After he kills it here, the big boys will be after him for a HC gig. Plus, he's probably sick of Ohio. Been there his entire life.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
I'm sorry, but I just don't see where this makes any sense.

If we're this late in the game and we're trying to pull a college head coach, then we have issues. This really concerns me thet we're trying to lure a head coach who has a job.

This doesn't make any sense for Candle regardless of a pay raise to be OC. He's the man in charge of his own program. He'll have a P5 job in the same amount of time as taking the Miami OC job if not sooner. I don't think he'd be here for more than 2 years at best.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't benefit Candle. I would love to have him, but I would be more than shocked if he accepted the position.
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Since going 11-3 in 2017. He's lost 6 games in every season that wasn't the covid year. He's not on the trajectory of getting a Power 5 job. He's more likely to get fired after 2022. And if he gets fired at Toledo he's probably gonna have to be a Power 5 OC anyway to rebuild his reputation. Better to get out before you get fired.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
I'm sorry, but I just don't see where this makes any sense.

If we're this late in the game and we're trying to pull a college head coach, then we have issues. This really concerns me thet we're trying to lure a head coach who has a job.

This doesn't make any sense for Candle regardless of a pay raise to be OC. He's the man in charge of his own program. He'll have a P5 job in the same amount of time as taking the Miami OC job if not sooner. I don't think he'd be here for more than 2 years at best. He'd be uprooting his family just to be in Miami for 2 years.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't benefit Candle. I would love to have him, but I would be more than shocked if he accepted the position.
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Except word is he has reached out about several P5 vacancies and no one gave him the time of day. If that is the case, he’s peaked at Toledo and his best chance to move up is to show he can do it at a P5 level as OC. Also new AD coming there and his seat is apparently warm as head coach. Leave while you control the narrative.
 
Salt said:
Who reached out to whom? Kind of sounds he reached out given his situation. If he was offered, what's there to sit on?
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It’s a mutual thing. Same agency. He’s got to sit on leaving a HC position for an OC position. That’s a drastic career change.

A lot of background stuff to handle too. He’s got a staff in place that they may have to completely let go if the new HC doesn’t retain them or prepare for that possibility.

Now that it’s out in public - it has to speed up the process because his team comes back right around now, dead period opened up, etc. you’re gonna leave a lot of guys hanging from players to staff. A lot to filter
 
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CANEMC said:
He understands that odds for success at Miami as an OC are greater than at Toledo. After he kills it here, the big boys will be after him for a HC gig. Plus, he's probably sick of Ohio. Been there his entire life.
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That's not his end game. I don't care if fans hate on me. It makes no sense for him to come. It doesn't benefit his career. He's already a head coach with a job and is lined up for a P5 job soon.

I'm speaking the truth.
 
tane000 said:
Al Golden is a candidate for DC Job at Notre Dame.
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Number1CanesFan said:
I'm sorry, but I just don't see where this makes any sense.

If we're this late in the game and we're trying to pull a college head coach, then we have issues. This really concerns me thet we're trying to lure a head coach who has a job.

This doesn't make any sense for Candle regardless of a pay raise to be OC. He's the man in charge of his own program. He'll have a P5 job in the same amount of time as taking the Miami OC job if not sooner. I don't think he'd be here for more than 2 years at best. He'd be uprooting his family just to be in Miami for 2 years.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't benefit Candle. I would love to have him, but I would be more than shocked if he accepted the position.
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I will try and link the article if I can find it again but I mentioned it was about a month ago there seemed to be some friction between Candle and Toledo seemingly from contract (I’m guessing a little bit here)

So in that sense I think it’s give some more insight

If he goes to Miami and succeeds as an OC he will get a HC gig somewhere
 
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