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Why is anyone bothering trying to convince the only subset of college football fans that believe something that they are wrong?
 

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I just hope we aren’t waiting for a guy to get a yes or no from ND. Move on to the next you if you are getting slow played.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Property tax is highly subjective.

When I was at UM, Coral Gables used to brag about having the lowest millage rate (property tax rate) in Dade County. Uh, yeah, because the value of the real estate was so high. So Coral Gables property tax bills were higher (on a total basis) than elsewhere in Dade, but at a lower tax rate (millage rate). It's a trade-off.

CA and NY have suffered from skyrocketing property values, which makes the total bill higher each year, even if the millage rate remains constant. I would also point out that the populations of CA and NY are higher than almost any other state (as well as higher population densities), which necessitates more roads, schools, fire, police, and other types of services.

It should be noted that localities (property tax, some local-option sales tax) are different from states (income tax, sales tax). States set a budget and get a TON of money from the federal government (OVER HALF of Florida's state budget revenue comes from the federal government), and states can deficit-spend. Cities and counties have to balance their budgets and therefore the millage rate on property taxes gets adjusted each year to cover the number.

Actually, the six highest PROPERTY TAX RATE states are:

1. New Jersey (widely-known and heavily-complained-about at 2.49%, also the highest annual tax on a median-priced house)
2. Illinois (2.27%, and #6 highest annual tax on a median-priced house)
3. New Hampshire (2.18% and #3 highest annual tax on a median-priced house)
4. Connecticut (2.14% and #2 highest annual tax on a median-priced house)
5. Vermont (1.90% and #7 highest annual tax on a median-priced house)
6. Wisconsin (1.85% and #11 highest annual tax on a median-priced house)

Texas is 7th (1.80% and #14 on annual tax). New York is 9th (1.72% and #4 on annual tax). Pennsylvania is 11th (1.58% and #16 on annual tax). Ohio is 13th (1.57% and #22 on annual tax). Florida is 28th (0.89% and #27 on annual tax).

California is 37th (0.76% but jumps to #9 highest annual tax on a median-priced house). It's just that...property has a very high valuation in CA.
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I agree with you regarding subjectivity, but I think to have an all-encompassing conversation about taxes it would have to also incorporate the total effective tax rate by state. New Hampshire has no income or sales tax, but some of the highest property taxes in the country. I don't necessarily look at that and take it as an indication of the abusive tax policy of NH. And yes a good point made about the amount of money each state receives from the fed gov't to be used towards budgets. I also like that you listed the highest annual tax on a median priced house, that seems to be a more reliable/indicative #).

As for the sky rocketing property values, I can't speak for CA but in NY the property values fell back down to earth like much of the US post-2008. They began to recover I think somewhere in 2015 (but it varies by county), and once covid hit property values went shooting up because many, many people chose not to leave the state but still wanted out of NYC. So the counties within 2 hours or so of NYC have seen huge increases. Several homes in and near my neighborhood sold for between 10-30% over the asking price. And we are not talking lakefront property lol. Just your basic suburbs.
 
I read MF as mother Fvcker too. Not gonna lie, I prefer that to that stupid **** shît some of our fans do with CMC.
 
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NateDogg said:
I agree with you regarding subjectivity, but I think to have an all-encompassing conversation about taxes it would have to also incorporate the total effective tax rate by state. New Hampshire has no income or sales tax, but some of the highest property taxes in the country. I don't necessarily look at that and take it as an indication of the abusive tax policy of NH. And yes a good point made about the amount of money each state receives from the fed gov't to be used towards budgets. I also like that you listed the highest annual tax on a median priced house, that seems to be a more reliable/indicative #).

As for the sky rocketing property values, I can't speak for CA but in NY the property values fell back down to earth like much of the US post-2008. They began to recover I think somewhere in 2015 (but it varies by county), and once covid hit property values went shooting up because many, many people chose not to leave the state but still wanted out of NYC. So the counties within 2 hours or so of NYC have seen huge increases. Several homes in and near my neighborhood sold for between 10-30% over the asking price. And we are not talking lakefront property lol. Just your basic suburbs.
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My wife and I choose a great time to leave our rental in NYC to buy in nassau county in one of the pricier neighborhoods since it’s where she grew up… 😞

At least my 30 year mortgage is fixed at 2.5%
 
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JD08 said:
I said ND was better based on perception of the last 5+ years. We have underacheived and have been remiss in our commitment to success. We see that's changed, but outside of die hard fans, not many others do. They think we're the same old perennial wannabes who used to be something and got passed.

I haven't said jack about the current roster.

To come here, Belk would need to buy into the belief that everythting will get better and have to want to be a part of that. Otherwise, he can go to ND and having that on a resume is still worth more than having us on there because look at the great coaches in the last 15 years who worked at Miami.

This is what Mario's up against. He got to recruit coaches as well as players.
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Obviously DCs under former DC head coaches can still advance career-wise (see Dan Lanning, etc) but I still think this would have to have some sort of significant weight in comparing our opening to ND's-

Go to ND and you're going to work under the dude that was just the DC there. You going to work under a dude that is getting massive media love now too. IF you're successful there as his DC how much credit are YOU getting or is Freeman being hailed as the defensive master?

Come here and it's YOUR D under a head coach that isn't even known for x's and o's on HIS side of the ball on offense. Have success here and it's all the love Manny Diaz got here when our D appeared to be good under him as a coordinator on steroids.
 
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JD08 said:
Having just driven to TN and back, it's about the same as most places in FL, maybe a little cheaper. North GA had the cheapest at $2.81/gal at one station.

That said, we have places here that drive our average up. Gas around here is ~3.40, but 15 miles away in West Palm, my wife pays 20 cents a gallon less.
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$4+ where I live. FML. And my can requires 93 Octane.
 
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