Some interesting things I've noticed about the rooster

[Fly1]

Good points FarArcher

Hopefully he sees the horses we have this year and he utilizes them accordingly.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Archer, are you willing to admit that the talent on this rooster should yield at least a top 30 or 40 defense?

Yes, we have the talent, easy.

Look at our opponents. Not all of them are top ten teams.

But we'll try to make them look like they are.

 

[unionandsixth]

I'm negging myself because I do not understand our defense.

Can negging play DT?

 

[unionandsixth]

Would love to see us get Thomas, McCord and AQM on the field during obvious passing downs and let them loose.

When we could drop them into coverage instead? Not sure I agree with you on this one . . .

 

[mydas77]

I don't know who the **** you think you are, but you don't run siht.

I don't much give a flying rat's fuzzy a$$ if you don't like negativity or not. Sounds like a real personal problem, and you might need some professional help. In the meantime, maybe you can rub some Vagisil somewhere.

Let me clue you in on something. This site is read. On occasion, by folks with a whole lot more horsepower than you have. Let me clue you in on another truism: it's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

Me? I'm sick and tired of you knothead pretenders that everything's all better. It's not all better.

What I say may not do anything to rectify the situation, but then again, I'm not getting paid big bucks to stubbornly repeat the same, identical, dumbass scheme that hasn't worked ini three years. Because if I was getting paid in some level of athletics with some responsibility, Dorito would have been sent packing long ago, and after the Penn State hiring fiasco, so would that so-called Head Coach.

Go back to hangliding nude over prisons and making lewd use of service station hoses.

Really...who said I ran anything? You need help in the reading comprehension department. If the people "with horsepower" read this....why aren't they doing anything to make the situation better?

The sad thing is FarArcher...I agree with you in a lot of ways...D'Onofrio should be gone.

Geez, we were just having fun! Weren't we?

This off-season is so boring, it's painful. And when we have fun posting, specifically disagreeing, it increases postings, it gets the blood going, it's fun, and it's like going verbal with your brothers.

I know we agree in lots of ways. I just have to provide some vinegar in what would normally be some really boring a$$ed threads.

If not for me and a few others, one thread would start, there'd be ten "likes" and then it would just dry up.

Due entirely to my contrary nature and my impeccable eye for coaching talent, I just love to bust into the party here among all the Golden supporters and athletic supporters, and bring them back to reality.

It's so easy to point out the deficiencies of the coaching staff. I'm not a people person, but a task oriented personality. If one can't do something, then my idea is for them to get clear of the task and get someone in who can make it happen. Ten friggin' years I've been watching coach after coach fall flat on his ***. Some likeable guys, each one, but they weren't up to the task here at Miami.

And every year we hang onto someone who clearly isn't up to the task, is another year of frustration because we'll suk.

Well said FarArcher......my personality is very similar. And YES.....the past ten years have been very painful.

In your opinion...and I'm not looking for ammo....besides a wholesale coaching staff change....who/what would you change? Just curious. What young coaches out there would you like to hire?

No, no. I was being facetious about an impeccable eye for coaching talent.

I know that defense wins games. Offense packs the bleachers. So whoever, would need to either be a defensive guru, or be able to hire one. The shame is, we do have a lot of talent this year, but I have zero faith in them being coached to play to their strengths.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen at Miami.

He's taking thoroughbreds and trying to pull stumps with them. He's taking speed, and slowing it to a crawl. He's taking instinct, and substituting spots on the field. He's taking long time rushing instincts, and making them hold in place. He's taking kids and trying a defense that most Pro teams couldn't play.

What your offense practices against, that's going to be their measure. What your defense practices against, that too, is going to be your measure. We have talent spotted all over the field. And **** if they don't make some good plays in spite of coaching and scheme.

Golden is organized. I'll give him that. But he's too entrenched. He has no flexibility. He has NEVER been exposed to having this much speed and natural playing abilities, and doesn't have a clue as to what to do with it. If you have Mustangs, you give them their head, and they'll get you to where you want to go.

I'm not an expert on anything, but I know men. And to hold these young men to a system entirely alien to what they've known all their playing lives, is criminal. I can see a coach setting up a defense that as the season goes on, he realizes is just wrong for the group he has. But to repeat the same, identical, stupid, unbelievable crap that didn't work in year one, didn't work in year two, didn't work in year three, and THEN talk about continuity? More of the same?

That's how I know he's not up to the job. He can't keep up with the game on game day, which is why we never see adjustments until we've been burned on the same, identical play, ten times (almost) in a row.

If you can't make basic adjustments, if you can't intuit what the other team is doing, and if you can't follow the first rule of conflict/war/fighting, like 'what you show, you will not do, and what you don't show, you will do.' Golden sets up a game plan, goes to the game, and that's it. And for him to blame the players, game after game, ****es me off something fierce.

If a player, a soldier, or hunting buddy is making the same mistakes again and again, either you didn't actually correct him, you didn't actually teach him, or he has no business on the grounds.

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

 

[Gatorhater]

This reminds me of a article on grantland I read a little while back about the Seattle Seahawks defense and running a 43 under. Seattle has such a funky group of front 7 players like playing 300+ lbs red Bryant at one DE spot and pass rusher Chris Clemons at the other spot (similar to chick and McCord). It goes on to talk about the differences between a one gap and 2 gap defense and how 1 gapping is a more aggressive defense, but you need to to bring a safety down to account for the last gap. Pete Carroll fixed that by having a couple players 2 gap and the rest one gap.

It also says this defense was far to much for a college team to handle and he could never implement it at USC. I'll post the link if you guys wanna read it.




http://grantland.com/features/whos-laughing-now/

This is the biggest problem with this staff. I've been around people in the program long enough to know that the staff is not comprised of a bunch of incompetents. Green? Yes. Incompetent? Not at all. In fact, I think the group as a whole has the potential to be an elite staff in a few years once Mr. Swag cuts his teeth (I think he's going to be a good one) and the defense is fixed. Al has learned and adapted to the culture a ton since he arrived. But he and his boy still think they are the smartest guys in the room. They just can't concede that this scheme takes both elite lineman and advanced capacity for the scheme. They have failed to sign the elite interior guys needed for the scheme. And they refuse to acknowledge that the scheme is too complex for many of our players, most of whom come from poorly coached high school programs. I am going to hope, blindly, that we see the defense adapt this year to its personnel. I'll argue this until I turn blue: we have more raw talent on this team than we've had in almost a decade, even with the dearth of interior lineman (we really haven't had any interior lineman worth a **** since Coker was clapping on the sidelines). I'm not a coach, but from my fan's perspective, Dorito needs to simplify the scheme and adjust it to fit our roster.

Yes, yes, yes. Well said. This is a system you use when you can't get quick fast players who can play aggressive. The lack of interior quality is long standing and hurt our old 4-3 also. To me it seems Al is building a defense designed to win ONE game against a team like our old '86 team and his pride will not let him admit this is not the place for it and he is wrong to try to use it here. He will beat FSU with it, maybe even this year, but will continue to get beat by teams willing to take 6 yards a play every down.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Really...who said I ran anything? You need help in the reading comprehension department. If the people "with horsepower" read this....why aren't they doing anything to make the situation better?

The sad thing is FarArcher...I agree with you in a lot of ways...D'Onofrio should be gone.

Geez, we were just having fun! Weren't we?

This off-season is so boring, it's painful. And when we have fun posting, specifically disagreeing, it increases postings, it gets the blood going, it's fun, and it's like going verbal with your brothers.

I know we agree in lots of ways. I just have to provide some vinegar in what would normally be some really boring a$$ed threads.

If not for me and a few others, one thread would start, there'd be ten "likes" and then it would just dry up.

Due entirely to my contrary nature and my impeccable eye for coaching talent, I just love to bust into the party here among all the Golden supporters and athletic supporters, and bring them back to reality.

It's so easy to point out the deficiencies of the coaching staff. I'm not a people person, but a task oriented personality. If one can't do something, then my idea is for them to get clear of the task and get someone in who can make it happen. Ten friggin' years I've been watching coach after coach fall flat on his ***. Some likeable guys, each one, but they weren't up to the task here at Miami.

And every year we hang onto someone who clearly isn't up to the task, is another year of frustration because we'll suk.

Well said FarArcher......my personality is very similar. And YES.....the past ten years have been very painful.

In your opinion...and I'm not looking for ammo....besides a wholesale coaching staff change....who/what would you change? Just curious. What young coaches out there would you like to hire?

No, no. I was being facetious about an impeccable eye for coaching talent.

I know that defense wins games. Offense packs the bleachers. So whoever, would need to either be a defensive guru, or be able to hire one. The shame is, we do have a lot of talent this year, but I have zero faith in them being coached to play to their strengths.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen at Miami.

He's taking thoroughbreds and trying to pull stumps with them. He's taking speed, and slowing it to a crawl. He's taking instinct, and substituting spots on the field. He's taking long time rushing instincts, and making them hold in place. He's taking kids and trying a defense that most Pro teams couldn't play.

What your offense practices against, that's going to be their measure. What your defense practices against, that too, is going to be your measure. We have talent spotted all over the field. And **** if they don't make some good plays in spite of coaching and scheme.

Golden is organized. I'll give him that. But he's too entrenched. He has no flexibility. He has NEVER been exposed to having this much speed and natural playing abilities, and doesn't have a clue as to what to do with it. If you have Mustangs, you give them their head, and they'll get you to where you want to go.

I'm not an expert on anything, but I know men. And to hold these young men to a system entirely alien to what they've known all their playing lives, is criminal. I can see a coach setting up a defense that as the season goes on, he realizes is just wrong for the group he has. But to repeat the same, identical, stupid, unbelievable crap that didn't work in year one, didn't work in year two, didn't work in year three, and THEN talk about continuity? More of the same?

That's how I know he's not up to the job. He can't keep up with the game on game day, which is why we never see adjustments until we've been burned on the same, identical play, ten times (almost) in a row.

If you can't make basic adjustments, if you can't intuit what the other team is doing, and if you can't follow the first rule of conflict/war/fighting, like 'what you show, you will not do, and what you don't show, you will do.' Golden sets up a game plan, goes to the game, and that's it. And for him to blame the players, game after game, ****es me off something fierce.

If a player, a soldier, or hunting buddy is making the same mistakes again and again, either you didn't actually correct him, you didn't actually teach him, or he has no business on the grounds.

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

 

[grover]

Archer, I will allow myself to be optimistic through the first 4 games and take stock after the Nebraska result. Why? Because Golden & D'O put this team together to execute their defense. They did not recruit Green, Highsmith, Rodgers, Cornelius, Gaines, Porter or Robinson. In many, many discussions on this topic, they claim their multiple-set defense is specifically designed to create those pressure situations, but they didn't have the right personnel. Well, this is their team now. There is not one Shannon kid left on defense. So it stands to reason this is the year the package should come together.

If we waste the pass rushers and CBs like Howard and Burns who love to press this year using a soft zone, then either Golden has to give up defense and hire a real DC who will run the show right, or he has to go. I'm not expecting miracles, but the defensive talent on this roster is more than good enough to move from the bottom quartile in yards against and third-down conversions against to at least the top half. Throw in a few positive turnovers by our guys, and that will be enough for Duke and Coley to lead us to 9 or more wins.

 

[mydas77]

Geez, we were just having fun! Weren't we?

This off-season is so boring, it's painful. And when we have fun posting, specifically disagreeing, it increases postings, it gets the blood going, it's fun, and it's like going verbal with your brothers.

I know we agree in lots of ways. I just have to provide some vinegar in what would normally be some really boring a$$ed threads.

If not for me and a few others, one thread would start, there'd be ten "likes" and then it would just dry up.

Due entirely to my contrary nature and my impeccable eye for coaching talent, I just love to bust into the party here among all the Golden supporters and athletic supporters, and bring them back to reality.

It's so easy to point out the deficiencies of the coaching staff. I'm not a people person, but a task oriented personality. If one can't do something, then my idea is for them to get clear of the task and get someone in who can make it happen. Ten friggin' years I've been watching coach after coach fall flat on his ***. Some likeable guys, each one, but they weren't up to the task here at Miami.

And every year we hang onto someone who clearly isn't up to the task, is another year of frustration because we'll suk.

Well said FarArcher......my personality is very similar. And YES.....the past ten years have been very painful.

In your opinion...and I'm not looking for ammo....besides a wholesale coaching staff change....who/what would you change? Just curious. What young coaches out there would you like to hire?

No, no. I was being facetious about an impeccable eye for coaching talent.

I know that defense wins games. Offense packs the bleachers. So whoever, would need to either be a defensive guru, or be able to hire one. The shame is, we do have a lot of talent this year, but I have zero faith in them being coached to play to their strengths.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen at Miami.

He's taking thoroughbreds and trying to pull stumps with them. He's taking speed, and slowing it to a crawl. He's taking instinct, and substituting spots on the field. He's taking long time rushing instincts, and making them hold in place. He's taking kids and trying a defense that most Pro teams couldn't play.

What your offense practices against, that's going to be their measure. What your defense practices against, that too, is going to be your measure. We have talent spotted all over the field. And **** if they don't make some good plays in spite of coaching and scheme.

Golden is organized. I'll give him that. But he's too entrenched. He has no flexibility. He has NEVER been exposed to having this much speed and natural playing abilities, and doesn't have a clue as to what to do with it. If you have Mustangs, you give them their head, and they'll get you to where you want to go.

I'm not an expert on anything, but I know men. And to hold these young men to a system entirely alien to what they've known all their playing lives, is criminal. I can see a coach setting up a defense that as the season goes on, he realizes is just wrong for the group he has. But to repeat the same, identical, stupid, unbelievable crap that didn't work in year one, didn't work in year two, didn't work in year three, and THEN talk about continuity? More of the same?

That's how I know he's not up to the job. He can't keep up with the game on game day, which is why we never see adjustments until we've been burned on the same, identical play, ten times (almost) in a row.

If you can't make basic adjustments, if you can't intuit what the other team is doing, and if you can't follow the first rule of conflict/war/fighting, like 'what you show, you will not do, and what you don't show, you will do.' Golden sets up a game plan, goes to the game, and that's it. And for him to blame the players, game after game, ****es me off something fierce.

If a player, a soldier, or hunting buddy is making the same mistakes again and again, either you didn't actually correct him, you didn't actually teach him, or he has no business on the grounds.

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

The progress is in the roster. Any person with a brain knows that switching from a 4-3 base to a 3-4 based is hard and takes time. It has taken them years to get the right guys for the roles needed in their scheme. I believe the results will come since the talent is improving.

For the record, I hate the scheme, but I understand football and rosters and understand why we have been bad. Guys he inherited were terrible for what he wants to do. The man has a core belief about how you play defense and is working to get the right guys for his belief.

Next year will be the first year he has had guys recruited for this scheme who are big enough, strong enough, talented enough and experienced enough to produce the results we expect on the field.


Btw, I have no problem with you disagreeing with people. My problem is I can't open a thread about ANYTHING without seeing your five sentences. You continually spam every thread with your anti-golden crap, which typically derails the intended conversation.

Happy bday coach - archer says fire golden

Roster is changing on defense - archer says golden sucks

We get a recruit - archer says golden will ruin him or says the scheme sucks.

C'mon man. Give it a break.

 

[AUcane]

This reminds me of a article on grantland I read a little while back about the Seattle Seahawks defense and running a 43 under. Seattle has such a funky group of front 7 players like playing 300+ lbs red Bryant at one DE spot and pass rusher Chris Clemons at the other spot (similar to chick and McCord). It goes on to talk about the differences between a one gap and 2 gap defense and how 1 gapping is a more aggressive defense, but you need to to bring a safety down to account for the last gap. Pete Carroll fixed that by having a couple players 2 gap and the rest one gap.

It also says this defense was far to much for a college team to handle and he could never implement it at USC. I'll post the link if you guys wanna read it.


http://grantland.com/features/whos-laughing-now/

Carroll, like Dungy, prefers not to two-gap. The problem isn’t the theory — a potential two-for-one where a single defender can clog up two running lanes is a great deal for the defense — but rather that two-gapping too often results in hesitant defensive linemen who try to read and react and thus fail to disrupt the offense.

“When you put a defensive lineman in a gap and tell him he has to control the gap, he can play very aggressively,” Carroll said at a coaching clinic.

“We want to be an attacking, aggressive football team,” he said at another clinic. “We don’t want to sit and read the play like you often have to with two-gap principles of play.”

I think I'm gonna puke.

 

[mydas77]

This reminds me of a article on grantland I read a little while back about the Seattle Seahawks defense and running a 43 under. Seattle has such a funky group of front 7 players like playing 300+ lbs red Bryant at one DE spot and pass rusher Chris Clemons at the other spot (similar to chick and McCord). It goes on to talk about the differences between a one gap and 2 gap defense and how 1 gapping is a more aggressive defense, but you need to to bring a safety down to account for the last gap. Pete Carroll fixed that by having a couple players 2 gap and the rest one gap.

It also says this defense was far to much for a college team to handle and he could never implement it at USC. I'll post the link if you guys wanna read it.


http://grantland.com/features/whos-laughing-now/

Carroll, like Dungy, prefers not to two-gap. The problem isn’t the theory — a potential two-for-one where a single defender can clog up two running lanes is a great deal for the defense — but rather that two-gapping too often results in hesitant defensive linemen who try to read and react and thus fail to disrupt the offense.

“When you put a defensive lineman in a gap and tell him he has to control the gap, he can play very aggressively,” Carroll said at a coaching clinic.

“We want to be an attacking, aggressive football team,” he said at another clinic. “We don’t want to sit and read the play like you often have to with two-gap principles of play.”

I think I'm gonna puke.

Did you read the rest? Carroll acknowledged that his current scheme employs strategic two-gapping from one guy depending on the call. Two gapping is not our core issue, talent is. We have all latched on to this idea that 2gapping is what has destroyed our defense when the truth is our players have been bad for years now. Dline flat out sucked for **** near a decade.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Well said FarArcher......my personality is very similar. And YES.....the past ten years have been very painful.

In your opinion...and I'm not looking for ammo....besides a wholesale coaching staff change....who/what would you change? Just curious. What young coaches out there would you like to hire?

No, no. I was being facetious about an impeccable eye for coaching talent.

I know that defense wins games. Offense packs the bleachers. So whoever, would need to either be a defensive guru, or be able to hire one. The shame is, we do have a lot of talent this year, but I have zero faith in them being coached to play to their strengths.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen at Miami.

He's taking thoroughbreds and trying to pull stumps with them. He's taking speed, and slowing it to a crawl. He's taking instinct, and substituting spots on the field. He's taking long time rushing instincts, and making them hold in place. He's taking kids and trying a defense that most Pro teams couldn't play.

What your offense practices against, that's going to be their measure. What your defense practices against, that too, is going to be your measure. We have talent spotted all over the field. And **** if they don't make some good plays in spite of coaching and scheme.

Golden is organized. I'll give him that. But he's too entrenched. He has no flexibility. He has NEVER been exposed to having this much speed and natural playing abilities, and doesn't have a clue as to what to do with it. If you have Mustangs, you give them their head, and they'll get you to where you want to go.

I'm not an expert on anything, but I know men. And to hold these young men to a system entirely alien to what they've known all their playing lives, is criminal. I can see a coach setting up a defense that as the season goes on, he realizes is just wrong for the group he has. But to repeat the same, identical, stupid, unbelievable crap that didn't work in year one, didn't work in year two, didn't work in year three, and THEN talk about continuity? More of the same?

That's how I know he's not up to the job. He can't keep up with the game on game day, which is why we never see adjustments until we've been burned on the same, identical play, ten times (almost) in a row.

If you can't make basic adjustments, if you can't intuit what the other team is doing, and if you can't follow the first rule of conflict/war/fighting, like 'what you show, you will not do, and what you don't show, you will do.' Golden sets up a game plan, goes to the game, and that's it. And for him to blame the players, game after game, ****es me off something fierce.

If a player, a soldier, or hunting buddy is making the same mistakes again and again, either you didn't actually correct him, you didn't actually teach him, or he has no business on the grounds.

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

The progress is in the roster. Any person with a brain knows that switching from a 4-3 base to a 3-4 based is hard and takes time. It has taken them years to get the right guys for the roles needed in their scheme. I believe the results will come since the talent is improving.

For the record, I hate the scheme, but I understand football and rosters and understand why we have been bad. Guys he inherited were terrible for what he wants to do. The man has a core belief about how you play defense and is working to get the right guys for his belief.

Next year will be the first year he has had guys recruited for this scheme who are big enough, strong enough, talented enough and experienced enough to produce the results we expect on the field.


Btw, I have no problem with you disagreeing with people. My problem is I can't open a thread about ANYTHING without seeing your five sentences. You continually spam every thread with your anti-golden crap, which typically derails the intended conversation.

Happy bday coach - archer says fire golden

Roster is changing on defense - archer says golden sucks

We get a recruit - archer says golden will ruin him or says the scheme sucks.

C'mon man. Give it a break.

That's not the way it works. We used to get dropped in among illiterates to train them, and in a few months, those we trained - not hand selected - had four times the successes per man than the well-trained regular US combat troops. Don't propose to tell me how to train men or adapt to the tactical situation. And we didn't get do-overs, we weren't allowed any half-assed excuses, and if you ever want to talk about operating under a 'cloud'???

Only an idiot tries to instill some completely new system irregardless of personnel.

I've heard for three years Golden doesn't have the personnel. Well any halfway intelligent commander adapts his plan to what he has to work with, and squeeze every ounce of effort out of his ability.

We didn't sit around bching about personnel. We had to work with what we had. We had to train what we had. We had to lead what we had. We had to adapt our strikes with what we had.

We didn't sit around wishing for Ph.D's driving masses of armor.

Yeah, I'll say it again. Golden suks. He suks because he is just like McClellan. You can read about Lincoln's pretty boy for yourself.

He'll never win because he doesn't understand the basics of dealing with young men. He can't improvise. He can't make do and then make better. The game is moving too fast for him - zero in-game adjustments. Look at him on the sidelines - he looks just like Randy did, but with a bit more emotion.

He thinks he's really that bright. He thinks he pretty much knows what he's doing. Typical thinking of all young men, especially among those whose stubborn pride takes them down.

He could probably be a really good coach in a decade or so, but we don't have the time.

 

[sebastian91]

And since grover was talking about rotations, stunting, man-press and blitzes - which we've not seen in . . . some three years . . . it's only informative to point that out.

If you were paying attention, you would know that all of those things happened with more frequency last year than the year before. It's reasonable to expect that we'll see more of those things next year than we did last year.

 

[mydas77]

No, no. I was being facetious about an impeccable eye for coaching talent.

I know that defense wins games. Offense packs the bleachers. So whoever, would need to either be a defensive guru, or be able to hire one. The shame is, we do have a lot of talent this year, but I have zero faith in them being coached to play to their strengths.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen at Miami.

He's taking thoroughbreds and trying to pull stumps with them. He's taking speed, and slowing it to a crawl. He's taking instinct, and substituting spots on the field. He's taking long time rushing instincts, and making them hold in place. He's taking kids and trying a defense that most Pro teams couldn't play.

What your offense practices against, that's going to be their measure. What your defense practices against, that too, is going to be your measure. We have talent spotted all over the field. And **** if they don't make some good plays in spite of coaching and scheme.

Golden is organized. I'll give him that. But he's too entrenched. He has no flexibility. He has NEVER been exposed to having this much speed and natural playing abilities, and doesn't have a clue as to what to do with it. If you have Mustangs, you give them their head, and they'll get you to where you want to go.

I'm not an expert on anything, but I know men. And to hold these young men to a system entirely alien to what they've known all their playing lives, is criminal. I can see a coach setting up a defense that as the season goes on, he realizes is just wrong for the group he has. But to repeat the same, identical, stupid, unbelievable crap that didn't work in year one, didn't work in year two, didn't work in year three, and THEN talk about continuity? More of the same?

That's how I know he's not up to the job. He can't keep up with the game on game day, which is why we never see adjustments until we've been burned on the same, identical play, ten times (almost) in a row.

If you can't make basic adjustments, if you can't intuit what the other team is doing, and if you can't follow the first rule of conflict/war/fighting, like 'what you show, you will not do, and what you don't show, you will do.' Golden sets up a game plan, goes to the game, and that's it. And for him to blame the players, game after game, ****es me off something fierce.

If a player, a soldier, or hunting buddy is making the same mistakes again and again, either you didn't actually correct him, you didn't actually teach him, or he has no business on the grounds.

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

The progress is in the roster. Any person with a brain knows that switching from a 4-3 base to a 3-4 based is hard and takes time. It has taken them years to get the right guys for the roles needed in their scheme. I believe the results will come since the talent is improving.

For the record, I hate the scheme, but I understand football and rosters and understand why we have been bad. Guys he inherited were terrible for what he wants to do. The man has a core belief about how you play defense and is working to get the right guys for his belief.

Next year will be the first year he has had guys recruited for this scheme who are big enough, strong enough, talented enough and experienced enough to produce the results we expect on the field.


Btw, I have no problem with you disagreeing with people. My problem is I can't open a thread about ANYTHING without seeing your five sentences. You continually spam every thread with your anti-golden crap, which typically derails the intended conversation.

Happy bday coach - archer says fire golden

Roster is changing on defense - archer says golden sucks

We get a recruit - archer says golden will ruin him or says the scheme sucks.

C'mon man. Give it a break.

That's not the way it works. We used to get dropped in among illiterates to train them, and in a few months, those we trained - not hand selected - had four times the successes per man than the well-trained regular US combat troops. Don't propose to tell me how to train men or adapt to the tactical situation. And we didn't get do-overs, we weren't allowed any half-assed excuses, and if you ever want to talk about operating under a 'cloud'???

Only an idiot tries to instill some completely new system irregardless of personnel.

I've heard for three years Golden doesn't have the personnel. Well any halfway intelligent commander adapts his plan to what he has to work with, and squeeze every ounce of effort out of his ability.

We didn't sit around bching about personnel. We had to work with what we had. We had to train what we had. We had to lead what we had. We had to adapt our strikes with what we had.

We didn't sit around wishing for Ph.D's driving masses of armor.

Yeah, I'll say it again. Golden suks. He suks because he is just like McClellan. You can read about Lincoln's pretty boy for yourself.

He'll never win because he doesn't understand the basics of dealing with young men. He can't improvise. He can't make do and then make better. The game is moving too fast for him - zero in-game adjustments. Look at him on the sidelines - he looks just like Randy did, but with a bit more emotion.

He thinks he's really that bright. He thinks he pretty much knows what he's doing. Typical thinking of all young men, especially among those whose stubborn pride takes them down.

He could probably be a really good coach in a decade or so, but we don't have the time.

I appreciate your service, but what are you talking about. How does any of that tirade correlate to recruiting for and install ing a college football defense? No, training for military and training for cfb are not the same.

All Coaches have philosophies. Eventually all coaches try to get to their identity. The think players then think plays mantra is applied with in the contex of their philosophy. They recognized what they had in players when the first got here and decided a slow transition to their belief was best for the team. We barely introduced 3-4 concepts that first season , which debunks your view of them being too stupid to recognize the personnel did not fit their scheme. The more they have brought in their players, the more we have switched to the 3-4.

Will it work when he has the guys he wants? Don't know. What I do know is that as a cane I will be rooting my *** of for him, not praying for our demise.

Back to my original point...look at how you (we) have hijacked this good thread. Military? Really?

 

[Crystal Ball]

When are FarArcher and Smokey gonna stop sucking eachothers diks and leave the board?

 

[arizonacane]

I'm negging myself because I do not understand our defense.

Neither do the players.

 

[UMFarArcher]

No football discussion, just a bunch of hyperbole.

Real talk....the best way to defend today's college offense is with a multiple defense based out of a 3-4. It puts another athletic player on the field. I know its popular (and easy) to say 4-3 cover 1, but the offenses today are built to defeat the traditional scheme. Football is evolving!

I am not sure his defense can be picked up by the kids, but I do understand what he wants to do AND I can see the progress he is making towards getting the guys he needs to make the scheme work.

You get no "cool points" for being the loudest critic of the coaches. Even if you are right, all we get is 4 more years of hoping the next coach is the guy. I prefer to root for this staff because they represent our best chance at being relevant right now.


That said, stop hijacking every thread with your ****. We respect your position and deserve the ability to chat football without your 5 lines of rhetoric. They suck; we get it.

Now back to the OPs thread. Stop being selfish and grandiose.

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

The progress is in the roster. Any person with a brain knows that switching from a 4-3 base to a 3-4 based is hard and takes time. It has taken them years to get the right guys for the roles needed in their scheme. I believe the results will come since the talent is improving.

For the record, I hate the scheme, but I understand football and rosters and understand why we have been bad. Guys he inherited were terrible for what he wants to do. The man has a core belief about how you play defense and is working to get the right guys for his belief.

Next year will be the first year he has had guys recruited for this scheme who are big enough, strong enough, talented enough and experienced enough to produce the results we expect on the field.


Btw, I have no problem with you disagreeing with people. My problem is I can't open a thread about ANYTHING without seeing your five sentences. You continually spam every thread with your anti-golden crap, which typically derails the intended conversation.

Happy bday coach - archer says fire golden

Roster is changing on defense - archer says golden sucks

We get a recruit - archer says golden will ruin him or says the scheme sucks.

C'mon man. Give it a break.

That's not the way it works. We used to get dropped in among illiterates to train them, and in a few months, those we trained - not hand selected - had four times the successes per man than the well-trained regular US combat troops. Don't propose to tell me how to train men or adapt to the tactical situation. And we didn't get do-overs, we weren't allowed any half-assed excuses, and if you ever want to talk about operating under a 'cloud'???

Only an idiot tries to instill some completely new system irregardless of personnel.

I've heard for three years Golden doesn't have the personnel. Well any halfway intelligent commander adapts his plan to what he has to work with, and squeeze every ounce of effort out of his ability.

We didn't sit around bching about personnel. We had to work with what we had. We had to train what we had. We had to lead what we had. We had to adapt our strikes with what we had.

We didn't sit around wishing for Ph.D's driving masses of armor.

Yeah, I'll say it again. Golden suks. He suks because he is just like McClellan. You can read about Lincoln's pretty boy for yourself.

He'll never win because he doesn't understand the basics of dealing with young men. He can't improvise. He can't make do and then make better. The game is moving too fast for him - zero in-game adjustments. Look at him on the sidelines - he looks just like Randy did, but with a bit more emotion.

He thinks he's really that bright. He thinks he pretty much knows what he's doing. Typical thinking of all young men, especially among those whose stubborn pride takes them down.

He could probably be a really good coach in a decade or so, but we don't have the time.

I appreciate your service, but what are you talking about. How does any of that tirade correlate to recruiting for and install ing a college football defense? No, training for military and training for cfb are not the same.

All Coaches have philosophies. Eventually all coaches try to get to their identity. The think players then think plays mantra is applied with in the contex of their philosophy. They recognized what they had in players when the first got here and decided a slow transition to their belief was best for the team. We barely introduced 3-4 concepts that first season , which debunks your view of them being too stupid to recognize the personnel did not fit their scheme. The more they have brought in their players, the more we have switched to the 3-4.

Will it work when he has the guys he wants? Don't know. What I do know is that as a cane I will be rooting my *** of for him, not praying for our demise.

Back to my original point...look at how you (we) have hijacked this good thread. Military? Really?

Tell me you can't be this dense. If you really were, light would be sucked in, never get out, and you'd look like a black hole.

Principles. You know what basic principle are?

The task is not germane to endeavors requiring training and teamwork. Golden did NOT recognize what they had in the players here, and that's the problem. He belongs up in the northeast somewhere. That Penn State, big, slow, grinding crap is NOT what Miami is.

We barely introduced 3-4 concepts the first year? What about the rest of it? We were as confused as a newborn in a ****y bar. On the snap, playing ten plus yards off a receiver, the defender ran instantly to a spot! That's why the outside passes ate us alive. What kind of dumbass 3-4 or even 4-3 scheme is that?

Seconds. Milliseconds. In all endeavors of conflict, speed kills. Speed wins. And there is no arguing the point. Our scheme on the Dline alone, wastes 1-2 seconds each play. Every play. Initiative then, always goes the the attacker.

You never, EVER, spot your opponent one second. Certainly not two seconds, or he'll beat you every time. Which is what we're seeing.

And I've seen some of the players Golden brought in. Many aren't here any more. The nationally recognized talents is just that - and that was no trick to evaluate.

So Golden wants a couple if fire plugs to plug the middle, and take up an extra lane? So does a lot of folks who would desire such a monster. But Golden doesn't HAVE the monster, but still attempts to do the same, stupid stuff anyway.

One principle widely known for millennia, is that you never reinforce (or repeat) a bad attack. If it didn't work the first time, it sure as **** won't work the second time. But Golden has been reinforcing his defensive attack - which is and was bad - three years running, and it looks like we'll see more of the same this year.

You're right in a manner. If Golden was a combat officer, he'd be dead two years back.

 

[UMFarArcher]

When are FarArcher and Smokey gonna stop sucking eachothers diks and leave the board?

That was classy.

I can see you put a lot of thought into that reply. Also indicated what pretty much stays on your mind.

Your momma know of these tendencies?

 

[mydas77]

I still have the Maryland game and the recent bowl game against Louisville recorded.

Please point out this progress you can see him making.

I've looked and looked at that game, and I'm missing something. We look just as pitiful in our last game as we did in his first.

Details please.

You gotta get a dictionary. Hijacking is not synonymus with disagreeing. Try it. It's D-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y. You can find one in most bookstores, and even online.

By sticking to my 5 lines, typing is so much easier. So you do your thing, and if my posts seem to trouble you, when you see my name, it's pretty complicated, but just don't read it.

The progress is in the roster. Any person with a brain knows that switching from a 4-3 base to a 3-4 based is hard and takes time. It has taken them years to get the right guys for the roles needed in their scheme. I believe the results will come since the talent is improving.

For the record, I hate the scheme, but I understand football and rosters and understand why we have been bad. Guys he inherited were terrible for what he wants to do. The man has a core belief about how you play defense and is working to get the right guys for his belief.

Next year will be the first year he has had guys recruited for this scheme who are big enough, strong enough, talented enough and experienced enough to produce the results we expect on the field.


Btw, I have no problem with you disagreeing with people. My problem is I can't open a thread about ANYTHING without seeing your five sentences. You continually spam every thread with your anti-golden crap, which typically derails the intended conversation.

Happy bday coach - archer says fire golden

Roster is changing on defense - archer says golden sucks

We get a recruit - archer says golden will ruin him or says the scheme sucks.

C'mon man. Give it a break.

That's not the way it works. We used to get dropped in among illiterates to train them, and in a few months, those we trained - not hand selected - had four times the successes per man than the well-trained regular US combat troops. Don't propose to tell me how to train men or adapt to the tactical situation. And we didn't get do-overs, we weren't allowed any half-assed excuses, and if you ever want to talk about operating under a 'cloud'???

Only an idiot tries to instill some completely new system irregardless of personnel.

I've heard for three years Golden doesn't have the personnel. Well any halfway intelligent commander adapts his plan to what he has to work with, and squeeze every ounce of effort out of his ability.

We didn't sit around bching about personnel. We had to work with what we had. We had to train what we had. We had to lead what we had. We had to adapt our strikes with what we had.

We didn't sit around wishing for Ph.D's driving masses of armor.

Yeah, I'll say it again. Golden suks. He suks because he is just like McClellan. You can read about Lincoln's pretty boy for yourself.

He'll never win because he doesn't understand the basics of dealing with young men. He can't improvise. He can't make do and then make better. The game is moving too fast for him - zero in-game adjustments. Look at him on the sidelines - he looks just like Randy did, but with a bit more emotion.

He thinks he's really that bright. He thinks he pretty much knows what he's doing. Typical thinking of all young men, especially among those whose stubborn pride takes them down.

He could probably be a really good coach in a decade or so, but we don't have the time.

I appreciate your service, but what are you talking about. How does any of that tirade correlate to recruiting for and install ing a college football defense? No, training for military and training for cfb are not the same.

All Coaches have philosophies. Eventually all coaches try to get to their identity. The think players then think plays mantra is applied with in the contex of their philosophy. They recognized what they had in players when the first got here and decided a slow transition to their belief was best for the team. We barely introduced 3-4 concepts that first season , which debunks your view of them being too stupid to recognize the personnel did not fit their scheme. The more they have brought in their players, the more we have switched to the 3-4.

Will it work when he has the guys he wants? Don't know. What I do know is that as a cane I will be rooting my *** of for him, not praying for our demise.

Back to my original point...look at how you (we) have hijacked this good thread. Military? Really?

Tell me you can't be this dense. If you really were, light would be sucked in, never get out, and you'd look like a black hole.

Principles. You know what basic principle are?

The task is not germane to endeavors requiring training and teamwork. Golden did NOT recognize what they had in the players here, and that's the problem. He belongs up in the northeast somewhere. That Penn State, big, slow, grinding crap is NOT what Miami is.

We barely introduced 3-4 concepts the first year? What about the rest of it? We were as confused as a newborn in a ****y bar. On the snap, playing ten plus yards off a receiver, the defender ran instantly to a spot! That's why the outside passes ate us alive. What kind of dumbass 3-4 or even 4-3 scheme is that?

Seconds. Milliseconds. In all endeavors of conflict, speed kills. Speed wins. And there is no arguing the point. Our scheme on the Dline alone, wastes 1-2 seconds each play. Every play. Initiative then, always goes the the attacker.

You never, EVER, spot your opponent one second. Certainly not two seconds, or he'll beat you every time. Which is what we're seeing.

And I've seen some of the players Golden brought in. Many aren't here any more. The nationally recognized talents is just that - and that was no trick to evaluate.

So Golden wants a couple if fire plugs to plug the middle, and take up an extra lane? So does a lot of folks who would desire such a monster. But Golden doesn't HAVE the monster, but still attempts to do the same, stupid stuff anyway.

One principle widely known for millennia, is that you never reinforce (or repeat) a bad attack. If it didn't work the first time, it sure as **** won't work the second time. But Golden has been reinforcing his defensive attack - which is and was bad - three years running, and it looks like we'll see more of the same this year.

You're right in a manner. If Golden was a combat officer, he'd be dead two years back.

Your logic is so flawed that you cannot be reasoned with. I give you facts, you call names. I point out actual things that happened -- the gradual transition to the 3-4 and our long-standing lack of Dline talent-- you start touting "widely known principles" and two day military trainings. Lol.

Your basic premise is golden should not have tried to switch to the 3-4 because the athletes were not in place, and he should know that he will never get the athletes he needs for the scheme I.e. golden 3-4 capable dts. I mean, you can't possibly recruit those guys to the U.

You are right, golden and the staff and the administration are dumb.

Check back with me when you ready to talk FOOTBALL and... Stop spamming the board!

 

[Billy D Williams]

I am and always have been a 4-3 or Cover 2 (tampa 2) guy. Outside of the Steelers I don't know of any other teams who have run the 3-4 for years and been good at it consistently. Football games are won along the line. Outside of stunts, slants and opening holes for a blitzer, DL simply have to be able to aggressively penetrate and wreck havoc along the line. Gap control, read and react is passive styles defenses that leaves you vulnerable to whatever a team wants to run.