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Thoughts on the game plan and play calling by Shannon Dawson vs the Gators? To me his best game was vs TAMU last year and this past weekend was more vanilla and was made to look better by Cam Ward. It’s hard to separate the game plan and play calling from the QB performance when you have a great QB like Cam Ward.
 
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I thought he showed alot of great things and variety. Not sure what you mean by Vanilla, I saw motion, shifts, exit/cheetah motions (which I been asking for since its literally run by pro team in same stadium), short game was cooking to wr and tes, even under center stuff which Im assuming was for Martinez and will open up play action down the line, Different tempo, more than just that dive into pile duo run game, counters and some stuff the 9ers/fins/rams do like the fletcher td when you have motion one way and have brown lead the other or the fake pitch to Martinez jet motion the other way with George (UF LB played it well but was a nice play and setup with lead blockers). We got 2 TE looks, 5 wide looks, guys running wide open, even went for jugular when they were already dead with reverse pass

Im not the guy to break it down but I saw more in this game than most others, even just the running game we were mostly duo last year and rarely varied from that. I could nitpick here and there but why we threw for 385 AND left meat on bone with drops and such even with execution being at high level with basically no penalties on hostile road environment. I wish I knew how to cut **** up lol..

Now the new test will be when the film comes out and defenses adjust and conference foes have film, will we have counters for the counters and continue to cook as season wears on.
 
Well whose idea was it to beat UF's Defense by throwing the ball?

The same guy who probably came up with the idea to beat TAMU by throwing the ball.

Did you see us out there running 4 verts every play? If not, that probably means we had multiple route combinations we were running & I would suspect those combos were "designed" to get specific players open, but I could be wrong.

What gameplan would you prefer? And how would you be able to distinguish between what's gameplan & what is just Cam Ward being Cam Ward?
 
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Memnon said:
Well whose idea was it to beat UF's Defense by throwing the ball?

The same guy who probably came up with the idea to beat TAMU by throwing the ball.

Did you see us out there running 4 verts every play? If not, that probably means we had multiple route combinations we were running & I would suspect those combos were "designed" to get specific players open, but I could be wrong.

What gameplan would you prefer? And how would you be able to distinguish between what's gameplan & what is just Cam Ward being Cam Ward?
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Shannon Dawson OC has what it takes, but the real challenge is for Shannon Dawson, Sports Psychologist. It takes a soft touch to take a caveman all the way to the cosmos.
 
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Memnon said:
Well whose idea was it to beat UF's Defense by throwing the ball?

The same guy who probably came up with the idea to beat TAMU by throwing the ball.

Did you see us out there running 4 verts every play? If not, that probably means we had multiple route combinations we were running & I would suspect those combos were "designed" to get specific players open, but I could be wrong.

What gameplan would you prefer? And how would you be able to distinguish between what's gameplan & what is just Cam Ward being Cam Ward?
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I saw it being discussed on another thread but I wanted your opinion. What do you make of the offensive line splits being so tight? I saw Chase Daniel mention it on a video and I wondered what the purpose for it was.
 
If Jacolby George doesn't cut inside on the end around and follows the blockers outside, that's a long gain and maybe a tuddy.

If Sam Brown and X connect on the trick play, that's a tuddy.

If RayRay Joseph catches the ball, that's a tuddy.


And we still scored 41 lol
 
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Memnon said:
Well whose idea was it to beat UF's Defense by throwing the ball?

The same guy who probably came up with the idea to beat TAMU by throwing the ball.

Did you see us out there running 4 verts every play? If not, that probably means we had multiple route combinations we were running & I would suspect those combos were "designed" to get specific players open, but I could be wrong.

What gameplan would you prefer? And how would you be able to distinguish between what's gameplan & what is just Cam Ward being Cam Ward?
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We’re fortunate to have so many ex OC’s to break down every play call for us novices
 
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Manfred_Cane said:
If Jacolby George doesn't cut inside on the end around and follows the blockers outside, that's a long gain and maybe a tuddy.

If Sam Brown and X connect on the trick play, that's a tuddy.

If RayRay Joseph catches the ball, that's a tuddy.


And we still scored 41 lol
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We also had a missed FG too. Easily talking 17-21 missed points.
 
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Manfred_Cane said:
3rd down. Backed up against our end zone. He calls an RPO with Arroyo in the backfield. Cam pulls and hits Arroyo out the backfield for a 1st down.


That's the good ****.
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**** yes

Man when you can call multiple plays in the red zone where the guy scoring barely gets touched going in, you’ve called some good plays
 
He had some nice calls and some variety in formations I really liked. They still used a ton of max protect stuff and sent three guys out against 7 defenders but Cam was able to punish them with scrambles if the defense just dropped into deeper zones.

Underrated play I really liked was when they were backed up near the goal line and they lined up Arroyo in the backfield as an H back. On the snap, he released across the formation like he was going to block a split zone and drew in the linebacker, he ran right past the linebacker for an easy 10 yard pass that the defense was completely lost on. Really nice play design.
 
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