Seantrel is back at practice

[CaneInsideHer]

Let me get this straight...you guys are trying to say that Flowers, a true freshman with absolutely 0 games under his belt should hop right on over to the LT spot and start his first CFB game in arguably the most important position on the field? Because you think he has looked great in preseason practices? Sure no problem...

Cmon man...come the **** on!! Talk about over-hyping the freshmen...

Give this kid some time to grow...

You guys love to put the young kids on the tip-top of the pedestal only to shove them off by midseason after they don't meet your lofty, unrealistic expectations.

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

 

[rok]

I expect Seantrel to be the starting RT by the Bethune game.

Bunche - Jones

Feliciano - Lewis

McDermott - Wheeler

Linder - Johnson

Seantrel - Flowers

 

[Plzwork4]

Let me get this straight...you guys are trying to say that Flowers, a true freshman with absolutely 0 games under his belt should hop right on over to the LT spot and start his first CFB game in arguably the most important position on the field? Because you think he has looked great in preseason practices? Sure no problem...

Cmon man...come the **** on!! Talk about over-hyping the freshmen...

Give this kid some time to grow...

You guys love to put the young kids on the tip-top of the pedestal only to shove them off by midseason after they don't meet your lofty, unrealistic expectations.

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

 

[CaneInsideHer]

Let me get this straight...you guys are trying to say that Flowers, a true freshman with absolutely 0 games under his belt should hop right on over to the LT spot and start his first CFB game in arguably the most important position on the field? Because you think he has looked great in preseason practices? Sure no problem...

Cmon man...come the **** on!! Talk about over-hyping the freshmen...

Give this kid some time to grow...

You guys love to put the young kids on the tip-top of the pedestal only to shove them off by midseason after they don't meet your lofty, unrealistic expectations.

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

I understand the difference quite well, but that doesn't change the fact that I want the best person to play. If a freshman outperformed the rest, so be it.

 

[Plzwork4]

Let me get this straight...you guys are trying to say that Flowers, a true freshman with absolutely 0 games under his belt should hop right on over to the LT spot and start his first CFB game in arguably the most important position on the field? Because you think he has looked great in preseason practices? Sure no problem...

Cmon man...come the **** on!! Talk about over-hyping the freshmen...

Give this kid some time to grow...

You guys love to put the young kids on the tip-top of the pedestal only to shove them off by midseason after they don't meet your lofty, unrealistic expectations.

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

I understand the difference quite well, but that doesn't change the fact that I want the best person to play. If a freshman outperformed the rest, so be it.

He didn't beat anyone out at Left tackle. If he wins the left tackle job we are screwed. Also your reading comprehension needs work, because I also never said that there is a huge problem with him starting at right tackle. However, I don't believe that this is a good thing...having a true freshman starting on the OL is never a positive.

 

[BWCD]

Plzwork4 - Flowers won the RT job, not the LT job. Malcolm Bunche is our starting LT. Seantrel would have been our starting RT. So...Bunche is at "the most important position on the field", as you put it. The more you say Flowers is over there, the more it makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about. GoldCane was talking nonsense about moving Bunche from LT down to LG and putting Flowers at LT was just nonsense...and it should have stopped right there. Just sayin.

Stephen Morris, being a right-handed QB, probably wouldn't have liked having a freshman at LT either...but that was never the case. At least with Flowers at RT, any pass rush busts by Flowers can be seen by Morris and he can move in or out of the pocket accordingly.

Everybody needs to calm the fack down and realize what reality is as opposed to jumping at conclusions. Take a deep breath, know what you're talking about, and THEN and only then...post away.

 

[Plzwork4]

Plzwork4 - Flowers won the RT job, not the LT job. Malcolm Bunche is our starting LT. Seantrel would have been our starting RT. So...Bunche is at "the most important position on the field", as you put it. The more you say Flowers is over there, the more it makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about. GoldCane was talking nonsense about moving Bunche from LT down to LG and putting Flowers at LT was just nonsense...and it should have stopped right there. Just sayin.

Stephen Morris, being a right-handed QB, probably wouldn't have liked having a freshman at LT either...but that was never the case. At least with Flowers at RT, any pass rush busts by Flowers can be seen by Morris and he can move in or out of the pocket accordingly.

Everybody needs to calm the fack down and realize what reality is as opposed to jumping at conclusions. Take a deep breath, know what you're talking about, and THEN and only then...post away.

LOL Ok buddy!! You're obviously not reading very well either...I'll quote GoldCane's earlier post...

"i was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago and was thinking that Bunche back to OG makes sense. LT Flowers LG Bunche C McDermott RG Linder RT Seantrel with Feliciano and JJohnson as the extra dudes sounds pretty **** good to me"

Doesn't look like GoldCane was talking nonsense. There were other references to this as well.

On top of that, where did I once say that Flowers is over there at LT?? Read the thread before you post big guy.

 

[Plzwork4]

Everybody needs to calm the fack down and realize what reality is as opposed to jumping at conclusions.

This is precisely why I posted in this thread in the first place.

 

[Staybon]

Let me get this straight...you guys are trying to say that Flowers, a true freshman with absolutely 0 games under his belt should hop right on over to the LT spot and start his first CFB game in arguably the most important position on the field? Because you think he has looked great in preseason practices? Sure no problem...

Cmon man...come the **** on!! Talk about over-hyping the freshmen...

Give this kid some time to grow...

You guys love to put the young kids on the tip-top of the pedestal only to shove them off by midseason after they don't meet your lofty, unrealistic expectations.

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

I understand the difference quite well, but that doesn't change the fact that I want the best person to play. If a freshman outperformed the rest, so be it.

He didn't beat anyone out at Left tackle. If he wins the left tackle job we are screwed. Also your reading comprehension needs work, because I also never said that there is a huge problem with him starting at right tackle. However, I don't believe that this is a good thing...having a true freshman starting on the OL is never a positive.

if that true freshman can play with the big boys its a positive. Jason Fox starting as a freshman at RT was a positive. Dude didn't give up any sacks and was starting at LT half way through the season if I remember right. Thank goodness that true freshman was there (i forget who was supposed to play RT that year but got hurt during the summer). Some guys are up to the task. And some older guys just aren't up to the task of playing LT. Whoever is best. And that's how competition is supposed to work - best guy for the job regardless of seniority.

 

[Plzwork4]

So you're saying we should never start freshmen, even if they're outperforming their upperclassmen counterparts. Got it.

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

I understand the difference quite well, but that doesn't change the fact that I want the best person to play. If a freshman outperformed the rest, so be it.

He didn't beat anyone out at Left tackle. If he wins the left tackle job we are screwed. Also your reading comprehension needs work, because I also never said that there is a huge problem with him starting at right tackle. However, I don't believe that this is a good thing...having a true freshman starting on the OL is never a positive.

if that true freshman can play with the big boys its a positive. Jason Fox starting as a freshman at RT was a positive. Dude didn't give up any sacks and was starting at LT half way through the season if I remember right. Thank goodness that true freshman was there (i forget who was supposed to play RT that year but got hurt during the summer). Some guys are up to the task. And some older guys just aren't up to the task of playing LT. Whoever is best. And that's how competition is supposed to work - best guy for the job regardless of seniority.

While I do agree...best guy for the job regardless...a man like Jason Fox is a rarity. You're correct. I think he played in 3 or 4 games at LT that season. You don't want to make a habit of starting true freshmen at your tackle spots. More specifically your blindside OT that's all that I'm saying.

 

[Staybon]

I just came back to this thread.

I don't even know why I'm editing this post to explain myself, because it clearly will go straight over your head. If you don't understand the differences between a true freshman starting at maybe WR or RB and the most important position on the field at LT, one that requires serious physical development as well as technique, then I don't know what to tell you homie. Other than you're an idiot.

Edit: No personal attacks.

-Los

I understand the difference quite well, but that doesn't change the fact that I want the best person to play. If a freshman outperformed the rest, so be it.

He didn't beat anyone out at Left tackle. If he wins the left tackle job we are screwed. Also your reading comprehension needs work, because I also never said that there is a huge problem with him starting at right tackle. However, I don't believe that this is a good thing...having a true freshman starting on the OL is never a positive.

if that true freshman can play with the big boys its a positive. Jason Fox starting as a freshman at RT was a positive. Dude didn't give up any sacks and was starting at LT half way through the season if I remember right. Thank goodness that true freshman was there (i forget who was supposed to play RT that year but got hurt during the summer). Some guys are up to the task. And some older guys just aren't up to the task of playing LT. Whoever is best. And that's how competition is supposed to work - best guy for the job regardless of seniority.

While I do agree...best guy for the job regardless...a man like Jason Fox is a rarity. You're correct. I think he played in 3 or 4 games at LT that season. You don't want to make a habit of starting true freshmen at your tackle spots. More specifically your blindside OT that's all that I'm saying.

i'm with you on that. generally i feel the same way. i just think Flowers is one of those rarities.

 

[epsilon06]

What's real funny is that Flowers ONLY began playing RT on the first day of fall camp. He's Only been playing left tackle for the last two years and throughout spring ball.

Sept 1 will actually be his first game ever at Right Tackle. He's actually better at left tackle. Lol.

 

[BWCD]

What's hilarious is, if Henderson were ready or if Jermaine Johnson had won the job in Henderson's absence instead of Flowers--there wouldn't be as many folks questioning things. A Freshman won the job...so good on him, and let's see what he can do.

Our starting line for BC will be (left to right) Bunche, Feliciano, McDermott, Linder, Flowers. You'll probably see Ben Jones and Jermaine Johnson in the rotation to spell a few of those guys throughout the game, and that's about it for OL that will play against BC. I'd say Henderson will be ready to travel come Kansas State.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

What's hilarious is, if Henderson were ready or if Jermaine Johnson had won the job in Henderson's absence instead of Flowers--there wouldn't be as many folks questioning things. A Freshman won the job...so good on him, and let's see what he can do.

Our starting line for BC will be (left to right) Bunche, Feliciano, McDermott, Linder, Flowers. You'll probably see Ben Jones and Jermaine Johnson in the rotation to spell a few of those guys throughout the game, and that's about it for OL that will play against BC. I'd say Henderson will be ready to travel come Kansas State.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Lewis & Wheeler play against BC.

 

[Staybon]

What's hilarious is, if Henderson were ready or if Jermaine Johnson had won the job in Henderson's absence instead of Flowers--there wouldn't be as many folks questioning things. A Freshman won the job...so good on him, and let's see what he can do.

Our starting line for BC will be (left to right) Bunche, Feliciano, McDermott, Linder, Flowers. You'll probably see Ben Jones and Jermaine Johnson in the rotation to spell a few of those guys throughout the game, and that's about it for OL that will play against BC. I'd say Henderson will be ready to travel come Kansas State.

also, can look to last year as an example of 1st game being sort of an audition. Figs played MD at LT and next week its BWash for the rest of the year (although with results that Figs probably could have given). This might be similar. Playing to be able to play the next week.

 

[Topgoon]

The kid has caused plenty of issues and has been the focal point of more than enough negative conversations and discussions. In a perfect world, it wouldn't matter if we had him or not, depth not being a problem.

Best believe come the Boston game Henderson will be playing.[/QUOTE]

Golden just said that SH will not travel to Boston.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

The FB board never fails to deliver LULZ

 

[hawaiicane]

The kid has caused plenty of issues and has been the focal point of more than enough negative conversations and discussions. In a perfect world, it wouldn't matter if we had him or not, depth not being a problem.

Reality is that we do kinda need the guy. The healthy productive ideal anyway. I have to imagine that Golden and company have had this same discussion more than once, and if they thought the negative outweighed the positive, he wouldn't be on the roster any more. Truth is, we need him if for nothing other than strength in numbers. How many seasons do you remember where we never lost a lineman to injury somewhere?

The only negative issues Henderson has had was with you guys on a message board. Coaches had no problems with Seantrel. He was not even cleared to practice because of the concussion he sustained, so missing time to be with family during the death of some very close people was not a big deal.

Henderson is a 3rd year player and does not need camp. As a coach all you worry about is what kind of game shape Henderson is in. Meaning how many snaps can he play. Best believe come the Boston game Henderson will be playing.

:ibisroflmao: