Scrimmage Report (Palm Beach)

[MIATL]

It appears the urban legend of Evan Shirreffs may be true ... From all of these practice reports, sounds like he will be the #2 .

I'm still not sure if that's because he's a legit QB, or because the previous staff was such a failure at QB recruitment ...

He's legit. Simple as that.

Based on what?

You were at the scrimmage??

 

[Ghandi]

@DMoney: Based upon what you've witnessed thus far, how do you think the season will play out for us? I had a chance to watch FSU's Spring game and the QB position and WR position seems very meh. I think we can truly beat FSU this year.

Still too early. This time last year, Michael Wyche was making strides. August camp will be a better indicator.

But it sure helps to have an elite QB, talented DTs and great coaches at both positions. If you're strong at those spots, it can mask other weaknesses.

Can the depth/talent in the DL along with the experience in S, help mask the deficiencies in the DB position? We literally only have three guys that can play there (Jackson, Elder, Redwine) and one guy that may move in the spring (Johnson).

 

[iLoveTDs]

What's up with all the **** yards? (especially rushing)

191 yards on 24 carries from the RB unit. (a 7.9 yard average)

I understand that some of those yards probably came against the back-up defense, but I'm also assuming that some of those yards were produced by the back-up offense.

What gives?

A lot of it was against the 2s and 3s but there were several explosive runs.

One thing I noticed from the clips was that the corners/safeties who came up in run support completely whiffed or had their ankles broken near the LOS.

Diaz has always said his DBs have to be able to tackle.

On Walton's first big run #28 CB Michael Jackson comes up to make a tackle at the LOS and gets frozen.

On Gus's big run #37 OLB James King & #33 DE Trent Harris don't contain the backside edge, and Gus makes a good cut back on a zone run.

On Trayone's big run #41 OLB (who's name isn't listed on the roster, probably a walk on) gets blocked/sealed off from the play. Then #21 Terrance Henley comes in to make a tackle near the LOS and he gets juked bad. And it looks like #39 S (who's name isn't on the roster) is late getting over to try and clean up the run.


We are going to struggle in the run game mostly because our secondary gives us practically no support. Runs that should be 2-5 yard carries are being busted for 30 yard gains. Also Trayone's runs were against walk ons.

Diaz has the least to work with imo.

Richt has Kayaa, Coley, good RBs, really good TEs, and at least a decent OL with highly rated players.

Diaz has a good DT/DE group (more so against the pass than run), good LBs with a lot of inexperience expected to play, bad CBs, and mediocre safeties who have yet to do much of anything in their careers.

I also think in these scrimmages we're seeing more m2m than we're going to see come fall.

 

[Moro]

Jackson should not have been making that tackle. If you play the video back both LB got blocked. Jackson made a good read but poor tackle attempt however, the true corporate were the LB's failed by getting blocked and finding the runner and making the tackle. This is the case on every run that the RB broke. There is way to much crowning of this LB group at this point.

With all of that said, I think the OL did better than what has been reported in the media. You don't get those kinds of runs without good blocking. Be it the 1st, 2nd or 3rd OL Team they got the job done in the run game. It just comes down to consistency with that group.

 

[freeman84]

[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION] who do you think is the best oline and do you think once sunny and d. Owens comes back they will take their starting positions back?

 

[iLoveTDs]

I'd be incredibly shocked if we won 9-10 games.

I'd guess 8-4

 

[UMFarArcher]

You take the good, but you will have some bad with aggressive defenses.

Clemson and Brent Venables are a prime example, they can be dominant where they get sacks and TFls, but them give up a 50 yard TD.

They are solid vs. The run pretty consistently though.

Diaz defense will rack up TFLs and sacks, but we are going to give up big plays people.

And that's exactly what we did back in our heydays.

We gave up some big plays. We just made more than they did.

 

[gcane44]

I'd be incredibly shocked if we won 9-10 games.

I'd guess 8-4

So you'd be incredibly shocked if we ended up winning one more game than what you are predicting?

Is your scientific method for coming up with a W/L prediction so precise that it would be shocking to have it be off by one game?

 

[dcornelius]

good work dmoney, we must understand rome was not built in one day. so it will be a process getting back where we need to be, but i belive we have the coaching staff to get it done. We just need to build depth in all positions

 

[KANE]

It appears the urban legend of Evan Shirreffs may be true ... From all of these practice reports, sounds like he will be the #2 .

I'm still not sure if that's because he's a legit QB, or because the previous staff was such a failure at QB recruitment ...

A little of both. I coach HS football in GA, and can tell you that the kid is pretty good. He had some injury issues and didn't attend many, if any camps. Which explains his low ranking. IDK if he will ever get any significant playing time at Miami, but I can tell you that he's not some scrub. Now it looks like he's one play away from being the next man up. We gotta keep Kayaa upright, cause im not ready to see Sherreffs on the field.

 

[iLoveTDs]

I'd be incredibly shocked if we won 9-10 games.

I'd guess 8-4

So you'd be incredibly shocked if we ended up winning one more game than what you are predicting?

Is your scientific method for coming up with a W/L prediction so precise that it would be shocking to have it be off by one game?

I would be. Whereas I wouldn't if we only won 7.
UNC, FSU, ND are losses - those teams are just way ahead of us right now. So we'd have to win the rest of the ACC games on our schedule to go 9-3.

People say we have a favorable schedule but I see a pretty brutal middle of the season schedule for us.
@ GT, FSU, UNC, @ VT, @ ND
5 tough games in a row. The 2 most favorable wins there are both on the road (GT, VT).

 

[bshaw28]

What's up with all the **** yards? (especially rushing)

191 yards on 24 carries from the RB unit. (a 7.9 yard average)

I understand that some of those yards probably came against the back-up defense, but I'm also assuming that some of those yards were produced by the back-up offense.

What gives?

A lot of it was against the 2s and 3s but there were several explosive runs.

One thing I noticed from the clips was that the corners/safeties who came up in run support completely whiffed or had their ankles broken near the LOS.

Diaz has always said his DBs have to be able to tackle.

On Walton's first big run #28 CB Michael Jackson comes up to make a tackle at the LOS and gets frozen.

On Gus's big run #37 OLB James King & #33 DE Trent Harris don't contain the backside edge, and Gus makes a good cut back on a zone run.

On Trayone's big run #41 OLB (who's name isn't listed on the roster, probably a walk on) gets blocked/sealed off from the play. Then #21 Terrance Henley comes in to make a tackle near the LOS and he gets juked bad. And it looks like #39 S (who's name isn't on the roster) is late getting over to try and clean up the run.


We are going to struggle in the run game mostly because our secondary gives us practically no support. Runs that should be 2-5 yard carries are being busted for 30 yard gains. Also Trayone's runs were against walk ons.

Diaz has the least to work with imo.

Richt has Kayaa, Coley, good RBs, really good TEs, and at least a decent OL with highly rated players.

Diaz has a good DT/DE group (more so against the pass than run), good LBs with a lot of inexperience expected to play, bad CBs, and mediocre safeties who have yet to do much of anything in their careers.

I also think in these scrimmages we're seeing more m2m than we're going to see come fall.

This is what I'm worried about. Seeing our secondary not being able to run down Walton on that long run is scary. Once an opposing RB gets past our LB's, our lack of athleticism in the secondary is going to lead to a lot of long runs given up.

 

[gacaneaddict]

I'd be incredibly shocked if we won 9-10 games.

I'd guess 8-4

So you'd be incredibly shocked if we ended up winning one more game than what you are predicting?

Is your scientific method for coming up with a W/L prediction so precise that it would be shocking to have it be off by one game?

I would be. Whereas I wouldn't if we only won 7.
UNC, FSU, ND are losses - those teams are just way ahead of us right now. So we'd have to win the rest of the ACC games on our schedule to go 9-3.

People say we have a favorable schedule but I see a pretty brutal middle of the season schedule for us.
@ GT, FSU, UNC, @ VT, @ ND
5 tough games in a row. The 2 most favorable wins there are both on the road (GT, VT).

How is UNC so far ahead of us? They beat us last year badly, but we beat them badly the year before, it's also at home.

FSU has barely scraped by us 2 years in a row, again another home game for Miami. Yes they havge been ahead of us, but that talent gap has closed quite a bit(starters are really close), and we have the better QB.

 

[AllAboutDaU]

Our CB situation is terrifying. We really need that Texas transfer to come in and provide quality depth. Or else we're one injury away from R. Mayes or Henley getting a lot of playing time. I wish nothing but the best for those guys but we all know they arent miami quality.

 

[ThomasM]

Remember how thin we were at WR before Coker got canned? Our WR depth is GOOD compared to back then, and that's not counting the good WRs coming in this summer. We're fine there. CB is another issue. We need to pray for no injuries. Also, we need to hope Kaaya can just plain light everyone up. Do that and everyone will be playing catch up all game long. That's how FSU would beat teams back in the day when Richt was running their O. Here's hoping it happens again.

On a side note, I was at the FSU spring game going into the 1999 season, and FSU's secondary was terrible. All they did was win the national title that year. Here's hoping Richt has that kind of season here. I personally think he can.

for Miami to be thin at WR or CB, much less both, will never be short of unbelievable.

 

[The Franchise]

Don't worry about CB. They won't get exposed as long as we're giving up 9 yards per rush.

 

[Moro]

What's up with all the **** yards? (especially rushing)

191 yards on 24 carries from the RB unit. (a 7.9 yard average)

I understand that some of those yards probably came against the back-up defense, but I'm also assuming that some of those yards were produced by the back-up offense.

What gives?

A lot of it was against the 2s and 3s but there were several explosive runs.

One thing I noticed from the clips was that the corners/safeties who came up in run support completely whiffed or had their ankles broken near the LOS.

Diaz has always said his DBs have to be able to tackle.

On Walton's first big run #28 CB Michael Jackson comes up to make a tackle at the LOS and gets frozen.

On Gus's big run #37 OLB James King & #33 DE Trent Harris don't contain the backside edge, and Gus makes a good cut back on a zone run.

On Trayone's big run #41 OLB (who's name isn't listed on the roster, probably a walk on) gets blocked/sealed off from the play. Then #21 Terrance Henley comes in to make a tackle near the LOS and he gets juked bad. And it looks like #39 S (who's name isn't on the roster) is late getting over to try and clean up the run.


We are going to struggle in the run game mostly because our secondary gives us practically no support. Runs that should be 2-5 yard carries are being busted for 30 yard gains. Also Trayone's runs were against walk ons.

Diaz has the least to work with imo.

Richt has Kayaa, Coley, good RBs, really good TEs, and at least a decent OL with highly rated players.

Diaz has a good DT/DE group (more so against the pass than run), good LBs with a lot of inexperience expected to play, bad CBs, and mediocre safeties who have yet to do much of anything in their careers.

I also think in these scrimmages we're seeing more m2m than we're going to see come fall.

This is what I'm worried about. Seeing our secondary not being able to run down Walton on that long run is scary. Once an opposing RB gets past our LB's, our lack of athleticism in the secondary is going to lead to a lot of long runs given up.

Really, when the WR's are running routes 30 and 40 yards down field. The RB's shouldn't be making it up to the third level of the defense. Why not address the issue with the LB play? I know you guys love this group and the young guys but this is what happened with the old coaching regime failing to be honest out what's really happening on the field and addressing the real issue.

 

[ThomasM]

I don't get this... The kid is doing practically everything right, and was a guy very lightly recruited, yet the previous staff failed at QB recruiting? Seems to me they hit a **** home run by bringing him in. They got Kaaya, then Shirreffs, then Allison to commit. That's not exactly failing to recruit the QB position. Previous staff had issues, LOTS of them, but identifying QB talent wasn't one of them.

It appears the urban legend of Evan Shirreffs may be true ... From all of these practice reports, sounds like he will be the #2 .

I'm still not sure if that's because he's a legit QB, or because the previous staff was such a failure at QB recruitment ...

 

[Salt]

It appears the urban legend of Evan Shirreffs may be true ... From all of these practice reports, sounds like he will be the #2 .

I'm still not sure if that's because he's a legit QB, or because the previous staff was such a failure at QB recruitment ...

the previous staff recruited Kaaya, Sheriffs, and Allison. As bad as they were in most areas, the gratuitous sniping is uncalled for in this one.

 

[The Franchise]

I don't get this... The kid is doing practically everything right, and was a guy very lightly recruited, yet the previous staff failed at QB recruiting? Seems to me they hit a **** home run by bringing him in. They got Kaaya, then Shirreffs, then Allison to commit. That's not exactly failing to recruit the QB position. Previous staff had issues, LOTS of them, but identifying QB talent wasn't one of them.

It appears the urban legend of Evan Shirreffs may be true ... From all of these practice reports, sounds like he will be the #2 .

I'm still not sure if that's because he's a legit QB, or because the previous staff was such a failure at QB recruitment ...

He's heel-digging on Shirrefs because he thought we shouldn't have signed him.