Saban s first year at Bama

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So a coach that Diaz has NOTHING in common with is your evidence we should give diaz more time? yeah that's not gonna get it done for me.
Whether you like it or not coaches, especially first year coaches, need time. This is not rocket science. Coker was undefeated in his first year but we all know how that ended so I would not judge Manny just of of his 1st year.
 
I’m not talking manny , I’m talking how majority of the board poo poo’s coaches. And only crowns them after they see the actual finished product. Who knows , some people might look dumb with the manny hate one day , including yourself. Or he could be canned next year , you really never know.

As for Saban, he was mediocre or just pretty good for majority of his career before winning the natty at LSU. That’s a fact.

I’m 4- and watched football since i was eight years old so I dont need a history lesson on Saban. George Perles did just as good at MSU than Saban .

Saban just got to two schools who have huge booster foundations which made him look like god. He’s a really good coach , but he wasn’t so hot when he had less talent or equal talent.
Saban lost 9 scholarships in his first 2 years at MSU because of sanctions. School was on probation for a while and in his final year he got to 10 wins for the first time since 1965 in that school’s history. He won at least 6 games every year. So he wasn’t lights out but not mediocre and Michigan State was the equivalent to what Iowa State is today.
 
Saban lost 9 scholarships in his first 2 years at MSU because of sanctions. School was on probation for a while and in his final year he got to 10 wins for the first time since 1965 in that school’s history. He won at least 6 games every year. So he wasn’t lights out but not mediocre and Michigan State was the equivalent to what Iowa State is today.

Pretty sure he never won 10 games until LSU
 
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OP graduated from Harvard. So he would probably pass.

Not impressed. Lots of otherwise smart people somehow fall for the outlier trap. They throw their pinky up in the air as if they've settled the matter. I have had numerous dinner table situations that turn awkward when I point out their outlier serves to make the other guy's point, not their own point.

I'll never understand how outlier mode is popular in the first place, other than the sheer laziness

Outliers work on television because of time restraints. That's probably why the practice owns more popularity than worth. They'll see someone make a dismissive outlier remark just before cutting away to commercial, and the panel is forced to accept it as last word.

That is not an issue here. Outliers are pathetic weakness
 
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